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manvanfan
Vancouver Canucks
Location: MB
Joined: 01.21.2012

Mar 8 @ 11:59 AM ET
But we didn’t use our own pick, it came from a pending UFA and it’ll probably be in the #20 range…all good.

Bo Horvat, a pending UFA who wanted 8+ million a year, and a second round pick for Hronek, Beauvillier and Raty…that’s a great trade for the Canucks organization.

- DraftandDestroy

"In a vacuum" - Rachel Doerrie
manvanfan
Vancouver Canucks
Location: MB
Joined: 01.21.2012

Mar 8 @ 12:02 PM ET

CanuckDon

Thx carol! I don’t like the pick at all. Boldy was the play. At the end of the day my heart was set on Zegras and I’m frustrated they wouldn’t offer pick 40 to move up and grab their guy. The Canucks were very dejected when zegras was selected. There was zero enthusiasm about Podkolzin. Why not gamble and get your guy?

Either way, I wish Podkolzin the best and i hope I look like an idiot in two years

For the month leading up to the draft Donna was Newhook, Newhook, Newhook everyday. Day of the draft Zegras.
DraftandDestroy
Arizona Coyotes
Location: Scottsdale, AZ
Joined: 11.15.2016

Mar 8 @ 12:04 PM ET

- manvanfan

Considering Seider was Yzerman’s target all along at #6 there was an extremely low probability that the Canucks get into the top five so you’re crying over something that had very little chance of happening.
Danny Bomber
Vancouver Canucks
Joined: 09.01.2017

Mar 8 @ 12:07 PM ET
Minor shoulder issue, but you keep up the drama queen act, someone may fall for it.
- DraftandDestroy

You keep pretending the Canucks are building a contender, someone may fall for it.
manvanfan
Vancouver Canucks
Location: MB
Joined: 01.21.2012

Mar 8 @ 12:08 PM ET
Considering Seider was Yzerman’s target all along at #6 there was an extremely low probability that the Canucks get into the top five so you’re crying over something that had very little chance of happening.
- DraftandDestroy

Thanks for this tid bit
DraftandDestroy
Arizona Coyotes
Location: Scottsdale, AZ
Joined: 11.15.2016

Mar 8 @ 12:09 PM ET
"In a vacuum" - Rachel Doerrie
- manvanfan

What does that even mean? Fans have b!tched and moaned for years about the Canucks letting pending UFA’s walk for nothing and then they trade one for two good players and a decent prospect and now it’s an issue. The Canucks fans are idiots, full stop. Considering the team is not allowed to or chooses not to rebuild it was a good trade.
manvanfan
Vancouver Canucks
Location: MB
Joined: 01.21.2012

Mar 8 @ 12:10 PM ET
He’s a very solid defensive forward, i like the move as long as the cost isnt too high
- neem55

Neem on Miller.
DraftandDestroy
Arizona Coyotes
Location: Scottsdale, AZ
Joined: 11.15.2016

Mar 8 @ 12:12 PM ET
You keep pretending the Canucks are building a contender, someone may fall for it.
- Danny Bomber

You keep pretending that I’m pretending the Canucks are building a contender and I’ll keep laughing at you. Im discussing one trade, which given the circumstances, is a good trade for the team. I hope they’re more competitive next year as all this losing is getting tiresome.
manvanfan
Vancouver Canucks
Location: MB
Joined: 01.21.2012

Mar 8 @ 12:12 PM ET
What does that even mean? Fans have female doged and moaned for years about the Canucks letting pending UFA’s walk for nothing and then they trade one for two good players and a decent prospect and now it’s an issue. The Canucks fans are idiots, full stop. Considering the team is not allowed to or chooses not to rebuild it was a good trade.
- DraftandDestroy

You don't know what "In a vacuum" means? Really.

(of an activity or a problem to be considered) isolated from the context normal to it and in which it can best be understood or assessed.


Does that help?
Shuswap Wap
Location: BC
Joined: 02.07.2018

Mar 8 @ 12:13 PM ET
Sounds like it still bothers you.
- Reubenkincade

#Bostonkincade
DraftandDestroy
Arizona Coyotes
Location: Scottsdale, AZ
Joined: 11.15.2016

Mar 8 @ 12:15 PM ET
You don't know what "In a vacuum" means? Really.



Does that help?

- manvanfan

Of course I know what it means, it still doesn’t make it a bad trade given the circumstances and the probability of the pick helping them in the immediate future, or at all. It sounds very professional on her part though.
VanHockeyGuy
Location: “Who are we to think we’re anybody?” - Tocchet. Penticton, BC
Joined: 04.26.2012

Mar 8 @ 12:16 PM ET
"In a vacuum" - Rachel Doerrie
- manvanfan


The most insignificant ex-Canucks employee ever.
manvanfan
Vancouver Canucks
Location: MB
Joined: 01.21.2012

Mar 8 @ 12:16 PM ET
Of course I know what it means, it still doesn’t make it a bad trade given the circumstances and the probability of the pick helping them in the immediate future, or at all. It sounds very professional on her part though.
- DraftandDestroy

She never said it was a bad trade. She actually liked both of them.
Shuswap Wap
Location: BC
Joined: 02.07.2018

Mar 8 @ 12:18 PM ET
Just read that there, hopefully those seeds come to fruition and they're able to clear Miller and use those assets to trade for a younger C.

Interesting Schmaltz is also on there. Seems like he'd be a good right-handed 2C option behind Petey. Just turned 27, 5.8 mil for the next 3 seasons... Canucks love trading with Arizona

- NewYorkNuck

Arizona is like those redneck pickers on TV that went around collecting everyone’s junk. Vancouver are the guys who a couple years later, pay big money for said junk.
manvanfan
Vancouver Canucks
Location: MB
Joined: 01.21.2012

Mar 8 @ 12:19 PM ET
The most insignificant ex-Canucks employee ever.
- VanHockeyGuy

I know and it drives so many people nuts.

I was just reading pages of the Miller trade. I was the only one who was somewhat okay with it. Except for Neem who thought Miller was good defensively.

Pretty well near the same reactions to the Hronek trade for most.
NorthNuck
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Yellowknife, NWT
Joined: 05.30.2016

Mar 8 @ 12:21 PM ET
On the first page of the next blog.




At the draft you were very saddened when Detroit took him though.

- manvanfan

Yeah I remember thinking the Canucks could slide down a few spots and still get him. Was shocked to see him go so high.

I also wanted Sergachev really badly in 2016
DraftandDestroy
Arizona Coyotes
Location: Scottsdale, AZ
Joined: 11.15.2016

Mar 8 @ 12:23 PM ET
Yeah I remember thinking the Canucks could slide down a few spots and still get him. Was shocked to see him go so high.

I also wanted Sergachev really badly in 2016

- NorthNuck

Yzerman is a pure genius. He should be in the HHOF as both a player and a builder…pure genius!!
NorthNuck
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Yellowknife, NWT
Joined: 05.30.2016

Mar 8 @ 12:23 PM ET
But we didn’t use our own pick, it came from a pending UFA and it’ll probably be in the #20 range…all good.

Bo Horvat, a pending UFA who wanted 8+ million a year, and a second round pick for Hronek, Beauvillier and Raty…that’s a great trade for the Canucks organization.

- DraftandDestroy

There is no doubt that in a vacuum the Hronek trade is pretty good value. I like the player for sure, but man would it have been nice to have 2 first rounders this year.
NorthNuck
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Yellowknife, NWT
Joined: 05.30.2016

Mar 8 @ 12:26 PM ET
I know and it drives so many people nuts.

I was just reading pages of the Miller trade. I was the only one who was somewhat okay with it. Except for Neem who thought Miller was good defensively.

Pretty well near the same reactions to the Hronek trade for most.

- manvanfan

Hronek might wind up making similar money to him too
VanHockeyGuy
Location: “Who are we to think we’re anybody?” - Tocchet. Penticton, BC
Joined: 04.26.2012

Mar 8 @ 12:27 PM ET
I know and it drives so many people nuts.

I was just reading pages of the Miller trade. I was the only one who was somewhat okay with it. Except for Neem who thought Miller was good defensively.

Pretty well near the same reactions to the Hronek trade for most.

- manvanfan


I really don't know what she goes on about, I skip over everything.

She's a female Thomas Drance wannabe.
DraftandDestroy
Arizona Coyotes
Location: Scottsdale, AZ
Joined: 11.15.2016

Mar 8 @ 12:27 PM ET
There is no doubt that in a vacuum the Hronek trade is pretty good value. I like the player for sure, but man would it have been nice to have 2 first rounders this year.
- NorthNuck

I’m on record as wanting a full rebuild, have for years, however, as I’ve just said many times over, given the organization isn’t rebuilding and they want to add 25 or younger players to help their young core. I’m fine with the deal.

But yes, two first round picks would’ve been sweet. This is how Arizona and Ottawa are going to quickly build competitive teams.
Reubenkincade
Location: BC
Joined: 11.18.2016

Mar 8 @ 12:28 PM ET
#Bostonkincade
- Shuswap Wap



DraftandDestroy
Arizona Coyotes
Location: Scottsdale, AZ
Joined: 11.15.2016

Mar 8 @ 12:29 PM ET
Hronek might wind up making similar money to him too
- NorthNuck

They really need to get Miller, OEL & Myers money off the books. Just terrible management by the present and past regime.
manvanfan
Vancouver Canucks
Location: MB
Joined: 01.21.2012

Mar 8 @ 12:32 PM ET
Hronek might wind up making similar money to him too
- NorthNuck

It ended up being a pretty good deal for Van because they picked 20th in a lesser draft. I will think the same thing if NYI picks 16th or higher and Van pick is 42 or higher. If it's 13th and 36. I like it much less.

NorthNuck
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Yellowknife, NWT
Joined: 05.30.2016

Mar 8 @ 12:32 PM ET
They really need to get Miller, OEL & Myers money off the books. Just terrible management by the present and past regime.
- DraftandDestroy

If they're not able to trade him without paying out the nose I really think an OEL buyout would help a ton. Past July 1st they should be able to move Myers without too much difficulty.

Miller I just don't see any other team taking.
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