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LeftCoaster
Location: Valley Of The Sun
Joined: 07.03.2009

May 27 @ 10:13 PM ET
Good game so far but those mustard yellow VGN sweaters are probably the worst sweaters in NHL history.
VanHockeyGuy
Location: “Who are we to think we’re anybody?” - Tocchet. Penticton, BC
Joined: 04.26.2012

May 27 @ 10:18 PM ET
Boeser Demko forsling, tree, McCann, Hughes, Petterson, podkolzin, guadette and hogs. There’s a number of GM’s that didn’t do as well is that in the same time span and I’m sure I’m even missing some that will have decent NHL careers.
- neem55


Why isn't he still with the team? Why hasn't anyone picked him up? He's a f*cking disaster that's why!
LordHumungous
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Greetings from the Humungous. Ayatollah of rock and rolla!
Joined: 08.15.2014

May 27 @ 11:38 PM ET
Good game so far but those mustard yellow VGN sweaters are probably the worst sweaters in NHL history.
- LeftCoaster

Not watching but good to see Big D making a comeback vs Gary's gifted club...Benn back next game to force game 7?

Marwood
Location: Cumberland, BC
Joined: 03.18.2010

May 28 @ 1:07 AM ET
Boeser Demko forsling, tree, McCann, Hughes, Petterson, podkolzin, guadette and hogs. There’s a number of GM’s that didn’t do as well is that in the same time span and I’m sure I’m even missing some that will have decent NHL careers.
- neem55

onesmallleap
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Be Calm n Swede On, BC
Joined: 09.23.2015

May 28 @ 1:08 AM ET
Has Bieksa been woke slapped?? Not on hnic anymore?
Quinn's Quest
Vancouver Canucks
Joined: 08.08.2022

May 28 @ 3:58 AM ET
Has Bieksa been woke slapped?? Not on hnic anymore?
- onesmallleap


Real interesting to find out what the reason is for his absence.

Anyone know what’s up with Bieksa?
VanHockeyGuy
Location: “Who are we to think we’re anybody?” - Tocchet. Penticton, BC
Joined: 04.26.2012

May 28 @ 10:32 AM ET

- Marwood


Then you subtract Forsling & McCann and you have very little to show after almost a decade.
VanHockeyGuy
Location: “Who are we to think we’re anybody?” - Tocchet. Penticton, BC
Joined: 04.26.2012

May 28 @ 11:10 AM ET
Has Bieksa been woke slapped?? Not on hnic anymore?
- onesmallleap


Not a word out there about it? Probably personal.
neem55
Vancouver Canucks
Joined: 02.02.2012

May 28 @ 11:11 AM ET
Then you subtract Forsling & McCann and you have very little to show after almost a decade.
- VanHockeyGuy

Why would you subtract valid evidence?
neem55
Vancouver Canucks
Joined: 02.02.2012

May 28 @ 11:15 AM ET
Why isn't he still with the team? Why hasn't anyone picked him up? He's a f*cking disaster that's why!
- VanHockeyGuy

He was a disaster with his cap and ufa signings, i completely agree there. Some of the worst UFA contracts given out in the last ten years were his imo. He did still manage to draft some of the best players weve ever had.
neem55
Vancouver Canucks
Joined: 02.02.2012

May 28 @ 11:17 AM ET
Real interesting to find out what the reason is for his absence.

Anyone know what’s up with Bieksa?

- Quinn's Quest

They get contracted x amount of appearances. Id imagine he will get more next year.
VanHockeyGuy
Location: “Who are we to think we’re anybody?” - Tocchet. Penticton, BC
Joined: 04.26.2012

May 28 @ 11:18 AM ET
Why would you subtract valid evidence?
- neem55

neem55
Vancouver Canucks
Joined: 02.02.2012

May 28 @ 11:22 AM ET

- VanHockeyGuy

He still drafted them, thus still evidence of an ability to evaluate/draft NHL calibre talent. I know its difficult to give old gms any credit, and i really enjoy the thought of dippoops that piss and moan on here thinking they know better, but facts are facts.
LordHumungous
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Greetings from the Humungous. Ayatollah of rock and rolla!
Joined: 08.15.2014

May 28 @ 11:22 AM ET
Has Bieksa been woke slapped?? Not on hnic anymore?
- onesmallleap

He probably made a sideways comment about Ron throwing Don under the bus to save his own ass at CBC so you know...trouble.

neem55
Vancouver Canucks
Joined: 02.02.2012

May 28 @ 11:24 AM ET
Um….no!
- LeftCoaster

There arent a number of GM's that did worst drafting in that time period? Or is this just a general "no" because we dont like benning cause he was overall bad.
VanHockeyGuy
Location: “Who are we to think we’re anybody?” - Tocchet. Penticton, BC
Joined: 04.26.2012

May 28 @ 11:28 AM ET
He still drafted them, thus still evidence of an ability to evaluate/draft NHL calibre talent. I know its difficult to give old gms any credit, and i really enjoy the thought of dippoops that piss and moan on here thinking they know better, but facts are facts.
- neem55


Give this some thought....

Almost a decade
neem55
Vancouver Canucks
Joined: 02.02.2012

May 28 @ 11:34 AM ET
Give this some thought....

Almost a decade

- VanHockeyGuy

Look at the Rangers, so many misses! But fortunetly for them, compitent trades were made and UFA signings. They also focused on drafting D more. His tenure was pretty terrible, im just not a throw the baby out with the bathwater type.
Load Management
Season Ticket Holder
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Billings Spit, BC
Joined: 09.22.2019

May 28 @ 11:58 AM ET
Look at the Rangers, so many misses! But fortunetly for them, compitent trades were made and UFA signings. They also focused on drafting D more. His tenure was pretty terrible, im just not a throw the baby out with the bathwater type.
- neem55


That's because you're the baby.
K-man25
Calgary Flames
Location: K Town
Joined: 09.02.2014

May 28 @ 12:13 PM ET
Is this the new trend we’re seeing from the Canuck Russians? First Try, then Krav, Pods next?
Maybe they feel more valued in the KHL?
Marwood
Location: Cumberland, BC
Joined: 03.18.2010

May 28 @ 12:22 PM ET
Is this the new trend we’re seeing from the Canuck Russians? First Try, then Krav, Pods next?
Maybe they feel more valued in the KHL?

- K-man25

Probably because they aren't NHL calibre, I wouldn't read much else into it just more fanboy hysteria.
K-man25
Calgary Flames
Location: K Town
Joined: 09.02.2014

May 28 @ 12:24 PM ET
Probably because they aren't NHL calibre, I wouldn't read much else into it just more fanboy hysteria.
- Marwood

I was going to suggest that but didn’t want to hurt any feelings.
Bettmanhatesus
Joined: 08.10.2016

May 28 @ 12:38 PM ET
He probably made a sideways comment about Ron throwing Don under the bus to save his own ass at CBC so you know...trouble.


- LordHumungous

Follow the script or else bye bye. 😉
LeftCoaster
Location: Valley Of The Sun
Joined: 07.03.2009

May 28 @ 12:52 PM ET
He still drafted them, thus still evidence of an ability to evaluate/draft NHL calibre talent. I know its difficult to give old gms any credit, and i really enjoy the thought of dippoops that piss and moan on here thinking they know better, but facts are facts.
- neem55

Since you won't put the work in, let me do it for you. Any team that drafted top ten, where Benning consistently drafted, meaning he should've drafted at the top of every round, can come up with a list of players to what you've described.

From 2014, Benning's best draft, to 2021, just pick a random team and list the players they drafted. You're going to find similar lists. His drafting was 100% nothing special, considering him missing so badly on Virtanen and Juolevi he probably sits near the bottom during that time frame.

Carolina...16 players who've played 100 or more NHL games and only two top five picks in Hanifin and Svechnikov. You named five good NHL players in Demko, Boeser, Forsling, McCann and Pettersson in eight years of drafting, that's not poor, but it's also not good when you compare it apples to apples for teams with similar draft positions.

2014 - Lucas Wallmark 187 gms, Warren Foegele 349 gms, Alex Nedeljkovic 103 gms, Hayden Fleury 244 gms.
2015 - Steven Lorentz 192 gms, Nicolas Roy 228 gms, Sebastian Aho 520 gms, Noah Hanifin 598 gms.
2016 - Janne Kuokkanen 119 gms, Julien Gauthier 153 gms, Jake Bean 125 gms.
2017 - Morgan Geekie 180 gms, Eetu Luostarinen 212 gms, Martin Necas 285 gms.
2018 - Andrei Svechnikov 347 gms
2020 - Seth Jarvis 150 gms

New York Islanders...similar list to yours and they'd be considered a "poor" drafting team. Only one top five pick and they missed on it too.

2014 - Devon Toews 315 gms, Ilya Sorokin 136 gms, Michael Dal Colle 112 gms.
2015 -Anthony Beauvillier 490 gms, Mathew Barzal 420 gms.
2017 - Sebastian Aho 132 gms.
2018 - Noah Dobson 238 gms, Oliver Wahlstrom 161 gms.
Quinn's Quest
Vancouver Canucks
Joined: 08.08.2022

May 28 @ 12:53 PM ET
They get contracted x amount of appearances. Id imagine he will get more next year.
- neem55


Really makes no sense he’s not a temporary guest coach and it’s SCF. Wasn’t he a regular in season?
Load Management
Season Ticket Holder
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Billings Spit, BC
Joined: 09.22.2019

May 28 @ 1:03 PM ET
I was going to suggest that but didn’t want to hurt any feelings.
- K-man25


You're ruining Hate Sunday.
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