His moves were to tank. He was going to let Geno walk and have Carter play 2C. He traded younger Dmen to acquire Petry. He acquired the corpose of Mikael Granlund.

Signing Rakell and Rust (And Geno and Letang) were directives from new management because they wanted to compete. He was hired to rebuild the team around Sid from prior ownership. He had the script flipped on him in an instant when FSG took over and had to "alter" his plan to appeal to the new bosses.
- j.boyd919

The more I think about it, the more I believe it's entirely possible Grandlund was a parting middle finger because he knew he was going to be fired. The only thing that keeps me from fully believing that is his other moves last summer.

DK disputing portions of Yohe/Rossi article (without directly mentioning the article). Says Blueger found from Burke in a hotel room, not with his teammates at dinner.

Also says Morehouse didnt give Hextall the directive to break up the big 3.

I kidna believe him on the Morehouse point. We all know Lemieux never would've willingly broke up the big 3 so either Burkle asked him to or Morehouse went rogue. I dont see either of those as being likely.

The more I think about it, the more I believe it's entirely possible Grandlund was a parting middle finger because he knew he was going to be fired. The only thing that keeps me from fully believing that is his other moves last summer.
- madmike71

I honestly dont think so. That would be greatly cynical and could end his end tenure in hockey for good. I dont see him taking a risk like that.

I think the more likely situation was he refused to invest heavily in the team because he didnt believe in them and didnt want to part with a 1st round pick, but when players started getting sold off for less than expected, he panicked and took Granlund based on his 100 points in 130 games over the 2021 and 2022 seasons without realizing how much he was dropping off. I doubt any scouts got a good look at him beforehand.

It's more stupid than evil IMO.

There are a few rumor mills that FSG told Hextall no to acquiring Miller because they didn't like his contact. So then Hextall turned around and instead acquired Granlund

His moves were to tank. He was going to let Geno walk and have Carter play 2C. He traded younger Dmen to acquire Petry. He acquired the corpose of Mikael Granlund.

Signing Rakell and Rust (And Geno and Letang) were directives from new management because they wanted to compete. He was hired to rebuild the team around Sid from prior ownership. He had the script flipped on him in an instant when FSG took over and had to "alter" his plan to appeal to the new bosses.
- j.boyd919

FSG took over in the fall of 2021 and made it clear they wanted to compete. I don't buy this. He's just bad at his job. He wanted trochek over Malkin. He valued veterans like Ruutta and Petry over Marino and Matheson. He's just an old school dumbass who failed. Glad he's gone and it's probably time we move on lol

FSG took over in the fall of 2021 and made it clear they wanted to compete. I don't buy this. He's just bad at his job. He wanted trochek over Malkin. He valued veterans like Ruutta and Petry over Marino and Matheson. He's just an old school dumbass who failed. Glad he's gone and it's probably time we move on lol
- burgh4life87

hahaha its so hard to move on when his mistakes are in our face every day!...or will soon be in our face every day....and by soon I mean in like 4 months from now hahah.....assuming the new GM cant fix them all, which I think is a safe assumption....

DK disputing portions of Yohe/Rossi article (without directly mentioning the article). Says Blueger found from Burke in a hotel room, not with his teammates at dinner.

Also says Morehouse didnt give Hextall the directive to break up the big 3.

I kidna believe him on the Morehouse point. We all know Lemieux never would've willingly broke up the big 3 so either Burkle asked him to or Morehouse went rogue. I dont see either of those as being likely.
- SuperHenderson13

the problem is DK isn't exactly reliable. But Rossi isn't either. Yohe used to be, but I feel like he's gone off the rails a bit when it comes to reliability lol

If he wanted to break up the big 3 fine. You can argue some benefits either way. However, breaking them up by just letting them walk in FA is just dumb. You move them for something g in return when you can.

I thought the pens should have traded Malkin after the failed 3 peat. He was at his peak and could get his highest return. He’s in a great deal now and the return just isn’t thre to make sense. Unless…..hex lands another gig and wants to sell the farm, then why not.

the problem is DK isn't exactly reliable. But Rossi isn't either. Yohe used to be, but I feel like he's gone off the rails a bit when it comes to reliability lol
- j.boyd919

Rossi wrote an article how Tulsky was the pens top choice and then 2 days later the pens told Tulsky he was out. Guess we should really take that article yesterday with a big grain of salt.

Rossi wrote an article how Tulsky was the pens top choice and then 2 days later the pens told Tulsky he was out. Guess we should really take that article yesterday with a big grain of salt.
- burgh4life87

Exactly lol, I take everything that guy says with a grain of salt. Yohe I used to trust a little more but I've kind of lost faith in him as an inside guy as of late.

Exactly lol, I take everything that guy says with a grain of salt. Yohe I used to trust a little more but I've kind of lost faith in him as an inside guy as of late.
- j.boyd919

I really can’t believe anyone ever reads anything Rossi or dk have to say. Both are trash.

If he wanted to break up the big 3 fine. You can argue some benefits either way. However, breaking them up by just letting them walk in FA is just dumb. You move them for something g in return when you can.

I thought the pens should have traded Malkin after the failed 3 peat. He was at his peak and could get his highest return. He’s in a great deal now and the return just isn’t thre to make sense. Unless…..hex lands another gig and wants to sell the farm, then why not.
- sammy87

You’ve wanted to trade Malkin literally since I joined the board in college.

the problem is DK isn't exactly reliable. But Rossi isn't either. Yohe used to be, but I feel like he's gone off the rails a bit when it comes to reliability lol
- j.boyd919

We'll never know the details.

There's basically a handful of guys that know the exact details and none of them will ever talk about it.

Burke... Not a source.
Hexy... Not a source.
Sully... Not a source.
Ackland/Beeston/FSG Owners... Not sources.

I'd bet my house that Moorhouse was DK's source however. Guaranteed. I wouldn't believe anything he told me.

You’ve wanted to trade Malkin literally since I joined the board in college.
- Victoro311

I also like to talk poop

I really can’t believe anyone ever reads anything Rossi or dk have to say. Both are trash.
- sammy87

It is tough to say this considering how obnoxious he is but when it comes to hockey at least Madden is unfortunately the most reliable Pittsburgh sports media person who did not play the game and is not involved in the broadcasts - and that is not saying much (those involved in the broadcasts cannot leak unofficial information if they want to keep their jobs).

I highly suspect with Rossi that the ownership and gm's deliberately leak false information to him to make him look even more like an idiot . I don't think anyone in the Pens' organization past or present respects him. Rutherford strongly implied this.

It is really tough to say with Rossi's/Yohe's report. On the one hand it is hard to come up with a reason why they hired Hextall in the first place considering his short and horrible track record in Philly and why they did not remove him sooner considering that no Pens' gm in history has done so much damage in such a short period of time.

On the other hand, the nature of this report is extreme and has a "reek of fabrication" to it. Rossi especially is not above completely fabricating a story when he has no real information. And the nature of the media nowadays is to parrot someone else's story when you have none, and I suspect that Yohe could have easily parroted Rossi's story. Rossi wouldn't mind since it seems to give his false story more veracity.

There are a few rumor mills that FSG told Hextall no to acquiring Miller because they didn't like his contact. So then Hextall turned around and instead acquired Granlund
- 123Kid

I heard that as well, but another wrinkle was that hex was going to send out zucker as part of a 3way to get miller, which Sullivan was quite upset about.

So question is, would you prefer JT in place of zucker and I imagine a 1st rounder and whatever else. Or the granlund trade?

I was hoping Florida beats vegas (assuming they win)

But after watching the coach chippy videos on Instagram about kessel, I want him to “win” another cup.

Chris Johnston reporting Dubas 98% taking a job in Pit. Said it sounds likely but didn’t name a position.

I also like to talk poop
- sammy87

Hahaha

Chris Johnston reporting Dubas 98% taking a job in Pit. Said it sounds likely but didn’t name a position.
- kfinl170

This GM market was so stacked that I feel like Dubas is the “safe” hire and still has a lot of upside. I still prefer him as PHO with a different GM but this would be an epic change of fortune for this franchise.

This GM market was so stacked that I feel like Dubas is the “safe” hire and still has a lot of upside. I still prefer him as PHO with a different GM but this would be an epic change of fortune for this franchise.
- Victoro311

Couldn’t have said it better myself

the problem is DK isn't exactly reliable. But Rossi isn't either. Yohe used to be, but I feel like he's gone off the rails a bit when it comes to reliability lol
- j.boyd919

It's honestly hard to know who to trust anymore for Pens insider news. Agree that Yohe used to be the standard but he's basically coasting on reputation at this point. I've seen quite a few competing reports imply his nice guy image is an act.

DK and Rossi definitely make stuff up when they have an axe to grind. Can see Rossi wanting to make it personal after Malkin almost left.

So bottom line for me is I won't take every detail of that report at face value. But I didn't need it to know Hextall butchered the job or Malkin almost left because he was disrespected.

This GM market was so stacked that I feel like Dubas is the “safe” hire and still has a lot of upside. I still prefer him as PHO with a different GM but this would be an epic change of fortune for this franchise.
- Victoro311

Dubas spent cap space on Matt Murray to solve his goal- tending hole last year, so I don't feel completely safe about him being the guy to fill ours.

Dubas spent cap space on Matt Murray to solve his goal- tending hole last year, so I don't feel completely safe about him being the guy to fill ours.
- Tojo.

He had history with Murray though. Had him in juniors. I don’t think he’ll make that mistake again.

FWIW... Filloponi said he has a source that told him Dubas is a done deal.