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Phillywhiteout
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: West Chester, PA
Joined: 08.11.2020

May 27 @ 6:09 PM ET
New Jersey and Florida drivers are the worst. I live in Nashville and this is q culmination of the worst drivers in the country all moving to the same place.
My road rage is off the charts here 🤷

- Bob Habib
I think the nod goes to Delaware drivers! Every single time I see someone driving badly (slow and or just dumbass maneuvers) around here it seems inevitable that they will have a Delaware plate! It can't be my imagination!
Phillywhiteout
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: West Chester, PA
Joined: 08.11.2020

May 27 @ 6:12 PM ET
Correct left that out….I’m a big Flyers fans but the loyalty/chrony-ism seems problematic.

The Oilers did it for 20+ years and it did not work. Ex players are not magically the best person for a job on your team

- jjonah
This is my biggest problem with how the Flyers are run and some of that blame falls on Snider. While I generally liked him as an owner I've always felt that he was far too loyal to ex players...especially some of the goons! No other organization does this and there is a simple explanation for it. IT DOESN'T WORK! WTF!! Where's the Tylenol!
Bob Habib
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 08.01.2020

May 27 @ 6:17 PM ET
I think the nod goes to Delaware drivers! Every single time I see someone driving badly (slow and or just dumbass maneuvers) around here it seems inevitable that they will have a Delaware plate! It can't be my imagination!
- Phillywhiteout

When I lived in Philly I remember making fun or jersey and Delaware drivers so there is validity to what you say.

Here in Nashville it is literally the worst of the worst all driving the same roads together... 5 under the speed limit in the left hand lane 😡
Flyerloon
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Phoenix, AZ
Joined: 12.06.2021

May 27 @ 7:24 PM ET
Personally for me it is a no brainer, we take the best defenseman whether it be Pelikka or reinbacher.

We take one of them no matter what, why take a player with drama involved. Select the defenseman and build from the net out like we should.

NO1 goalie
NO1 defenseman
NO1 center
2 Elite scorers

Once we have these positions filled then we can think about the playoffs and cups , but until then we need to draft smart and not take risky players with upside.
rayc16
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Free Frosty
Joined: 06.29.2006

May 27 @ 7:42 PM ET
When I lived in Philly I remember making fun or jersey and Delaware drivers so there is validity to what you say.

Here in Nashville it is literally the worst of the worst all driving the same roads together... 5 under the speed limit in the left hand lane 😡

- Bob Habib


Bob Habib
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 08.01.2020

May 27 @ 8:02 PM ET

- rayc16

Thus, my road rage.... it happens almost every dingle day here. I have to weave thru traffic every dingle time that I drive
One thing that gives so solace is that I bought something called a Flik for my rear windshield.

Google that. You're welcome 😂
Hesh_
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 07.29.2013

May 27 @ 8:45 PM ET
I think the nod goes to Delaware drivers! Every single time I see someone driving badly (slow and or just dumbass maneuvers) around here it seems inevitable that they will have a Delaware plate! It can't be my imagination!
- Phillywhiteout

Having to cope with 95 and the beltways between DC and Baltimore, I’d like to throw my hat in the ring for dealing with incompetent drivers.

Flurries make people stop. The rain makes people stop. The sun makes people stop. And snow? Forget it. They don’t have yearly inspections, so half of the people are driving on their wear bars. Doesn’t help that their snow budget is next to zero, and they’re reactionary instead of preparing for any type of inclement weather.

It’s a steaming pile of garbage on the beltways daily. I take the Metro when I can, and between 7-9am and 4-7 pm, I give myself an hour just in case if I have an important appointment if it’s 5mi and I need the beltway.
rayc16
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Free Frosty
Joined: 06.29.2006

May 27 @ 8:53 PM ET
Thus, my road rage.... it happens almost every dingle day here. I have to weave thru traffic every dingle time that I drive
One thing that gives so solace is that I bought something called a Flik for my rear windshield.

Google that. You're welcome 😂

- Bob Habib

That's (frank)ing awesome. Getting me one.
landros 2
Season Ticket Holder
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Centre of universe
Joined: 02.07.2007

May 27 @ 10:28 PM ET
Hmmm ...it sort of depends on the scale of their dissidence.

https://data.ovdinfo.org/...time-repressions-report#4


It might not be just the issue of managing to get him over. Multiple possibilities of attritional aggravation by Kremlin after that. Suppose:

1. He comes over, does well, US-Russia relationships worsen further and suddenly, there are 'irregularities' found in his papers causing him to be detained in Russia over xmas break and miss parts of season.

2. He gives a statement not supportive enough of Putin/Orthodox Church. Family back home harassed, his play goes south.

3. He is too supportive of Putin/not critical enough: he is booed at different arenas/questioned by journalists repeatedly, pressure takes a toll, play dives.

4. Sister/cousin/close relative joins dissident group (unrelated to Michkov). Jailed. Mitvai decides he needs to be closer to home to support them and prevent endless hassle of travel bac and forth.

Don't use the time period post 1989 Mogilny to extrapolate to present. Things are far worse now, and will likely get much more bad in the short to intermediate future.

You mentioned that no family lines are being extinguished. But there has been at least 1 report that Michkov's dad was trying to get his son out of the KHL 3 year gig to come over faster when he suddenly died.

Indeed, there are usually 3-4 mysterious high profile deaths involving Russians during a given year.

Now there are many, many more.

EDIT: For xmas, sub any break. Summer/all star etc etc

- PT21


Michkov’s dad told his wife he was going out for a bit and was found floating in a pond after he never returned. He apparently had been making overtures that his sons dream was to play in the NHL…not much has been made of the actual events, but I’m sure EVERY NHL team knows the circumstances behind the “sudden” death of his father.
These are F ‘d up times..things are not normal. We are so lucky to live the way we do. Unfortunately that’s not the way for the rest of the world.
Don Nachbaur
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 12.01.2021

May 27 @ 10:35 PM ET
Thus, my road rage.... it happens almost every dingle day here. I have to weave thru traffic every dingle time that I drive
One thing that gives so solace is that I bought something called a Flik for my rear windshield.

Google that. You're welcome 😂

- Bob Habib


Lmao! That's awesome! I hate driving so much because of all the a$$clowns on phones, etc. I'm in burbs outside of Philly so luckily, rarely in the city or else I might need the Flik.
Don Nachbaur
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 12.01.2021

May 27 @ 10:56 PM ET
Michkov’s dad told his wife he was going out for a bit and was found floating in a pond after he never returned. He apparently had been making overtures that his sons dream was to play in the NHL…not much has been made of the actual events, but I’m sure EVERY NHL team knows the circumstances behind the “sudden” death of his father.
These are F ‘d up times..things are not normal. We are so lucky to live the way we do. Unfortunately that’s not the way for the rest of the world.

- landros 2


I don't know much about him, but definitely wouldn't want the Flyers to pick him, no matter how good he is. As has already been said, there's no guarantee he will ever hit NA soil. It's sad what is going on over there.
Phillywhiteout
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: West Chester, PA
Joined: 08.11.2020

May 27 @ 11:44 PM ET
I don't know much about him, but definitely wouldn't want the Flyers to pick him, no matter how good he is. As has already been said, there's no guarantee he will ever hit NA soil. It's sad what is going on over there.
- Don Nachbaur
I absolutely agree, but yet there are some folks on here that insist that they have no doubt that he will play in the NHL and may even get out of his KHL contract early. I am in the camp of saying no way Jose. The Flyers can't afford to pick a guy that may never play for them after what happened with Patrick. It just can't go down that way. Thanks!
bird_dog_pa
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: PA
Joined: 07.05.2011

May 27 @ 11:58 PM ET
Having to cope with 95 and the beltways between DC and Baltimore, I’d like to throw my hat in the ring for dealing with incompetent drivers.

Flurries make people stop. The rain makes people stop. The sun makes people stop. And snow? Forget it. They don’t have yearly inspections, so half of the people are driving on their wear bars. Doesn’t help that their snow budget is next to zero, and they’re reactionary instead of preparing for any type of inclement weather.

It’s a steaming pile of garbage on the beltways daily. I take the Metro when I can, and between 7-9am and 4-7 pm, I give myself an hour just in case if I have an important appointment if it’s 5mi and I need the beltway.

- Hesh_


Yeah the beltway sucks that’s why I try and leave extra early if I have to drive that route. 270 south from Frederick blows as well. It’s slinky commuting.
Try driving 78 In PA West to East in the construction zone where 50 mph is a suggestion and the big rigs are moving 60 plus.
I’m driving a billboard so I generally drive the speed limit. I also don’t mindlessly cruise the left lanes.
In PA there are stretches of road where I will stay in the left lane because the right lane is in such bad shape it beats the crap out of me. Ford Transit vans loaded with parts, tools etc don’t offer a luxurious ride.
Don Nachbaur
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 12.01.2021

May 28 @ 12:09 AM ET
I absolutely agree, but yet there are some folks on here that insist that they have no doubt that he will play in the NHL and may even get out of his KHL contract early. I am in the camp of saying no way Jose. The Flyers can't afford to pick a guy that may never play for them after what happened with Patrick. It just can't go down that way. Thanks!
- Phillywhiteout


Absolutely agree. I admit that I wanted Patrick so of course, i assume things
won't work out for us this year





Minnyhock
Minnesota Wild
Joined: 06.26.2021

May 28 @ 1:04 AM ET
Personally for me it is a no brainer, we take the best defenseman whether it be Pelikka or reinbacher.

We take one of them no matter what, why take a player with drama involved. Select the defenseman and build from the net out like we should.

NO1 goalie
NO1 defenseman
NO1 center
2 Elite scorers

Once we have these positions filled then we can think about the playoffs and cups , but until then we need to draft smart and not take risky players with upside.

- Flyerloon


Building from the net out is a cliche that can be challenged today. Goalies are unpredictable from year to year. They’re voodoo. The Avs won the Cup last year with an average goalie and Vegas is five wins away from a Cup with Adin Hill. The hardest and most important position to fill is 1C. If you have a 1C who can score getting an elite playmaking wing would be next. If your 1C is a true playmaker then you try for a sniper at wing. Then you go for a stud defenseman. It’s not likely you can get a Makar but you only go for defenseman ahead of a 1C if you get one who can control the game.If you can’t then you go for a guy who can log big minutes. Even a 2C should be prioritized before a goalie.

The Flyers are not a swing for the fences organization. Patrick was viewed as a “safe” pick.The Flyers probably won’t take Michkov due to risk and him being a wing when they need a 1C or a defenseman. Imo picking #7 with no risk appetite for a Michkov if he’s available means they probably wont get a player as good as Cutter in this draft. Cutter looks like the real deal so that’s not a bad thing. Just don’t pick a bust. Good luck.
MBFlyerfan
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Be nice from now on, NJ
Joined: 03.17.2006

May 28 @ 4:48 AM ET
Personally for me it is a no brainer, we take the best defenseman whether it be Pelikka or reinbacher.

We take one of them no matter what, why take a player with drama involved. Select the defenseman and build from the net out like we should.

NO1 goalie
NO1 defenseman
NO1 center
2 Elite scorers

Once we have these positions filled then we can think about the playoffs and cups , but until then we need to draft smart and not take risky players with upside.

- Flyerloon



Here is the question. Are Reinbacher or Pellikka #1 NHL defensemen or just the best defensemen in this class?

I tend to believe they are not. Both should be solid top 4's but I don't think we should be using this high of a pick for one of them when the selection of 1st line future forwards potentially available.
mikeyo27
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: NJ
Joined: 01.18.2014

May 28 @ 6:22 AM ET
Here is the question. Are Reinbacher or Pellikka #1 NHL defensemen or just the best defensemen in this class?

I tend to believe they are not. Both should be solid top 4's but I don't think we should be using this high of a pick for one of them when the selection of 1st line future forwards potentially available.

- MBFlyerfan


THAT is a great point! This is the #7 overall pick and must be the highest impact player available.
mr4tno
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: PA
Joined: 06.29.2017

May 28 @ 8:57 AM ET
Here is the question. Are Reinbacher or Pellikka #1 NHL defensemen or just the best defensemen in this class?

I tend to believe they are not. Both should be solid top 4's but I don't think we should be using this high of a pick for one of them when the selection of 1st line future forwards potentially available.

- MBFlyerfan

Agreed. Offense sells tickets and will separate Flyers hockey from watching paint dry. Go sexy first, fill the stands, then worry about contending, especially given that the d-man are ranked much lower in this draft
Feanor
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: DE
Joined: 02.13.2013

May 28 @ 10:45 AM ET
We will have people on here complain no matter what. We could win the Stanley Cup one year
- Bob Habib


What ever gave you that idea?

The last time was 1975 in an 18 team league.
Dkos
Season Ticket Holder
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Gritty, PA
Joined: 01.15.2007

May 28 @ 10:50 AM ET
Thus, my road rage.... it happens almost every dingle day here. I have to weave thru traffic every dingle time that I drive
One thing that gives so solace is that I bought something called a Flik for my rear windshield.

Google that. You're welcome 😂

- Bob Habib


Might be you’re the worst driver weaving thru traffic like that. What plates do you have? 😂

You need to leave the country to find the worst drivers. Try Italy. The craziest experience I had was with an Egyptian guy. No regard for any rules. Full out from the minute we got in the car. U-turns over the median. Actually drove on the sidewalk like in the movies. Crazy. This wasn’t a cab driver or something. This was a guy in management at the company I was doing work for. In a tie. Smiling and chatting the whole time.

Dkos
Season Ticket Holder
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Gritty, PA
Joined: 01.15.2007

May 28 @ 10:59 AM ET
Anyone see that article in the inquirer about Briere saying he’d be willing to trade Hart? Nothing surprising about that, but the article then went on to say that nobody would be interested in him because of the sexual assault investigation. Is that true? I thought it was fairly well established that he wasn’t involved? If no teams would be willing to take a chance in him does that mean the Flyers might be able to get a deal on his next contract?
mikeyo27
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: NJ
Joined: 01.18.2014

May 28 @ 11:13 AM ET
Might be you’re the worst driver weaving thru traffic like that. What plates do you have? 😂

You need to leave the country to find the worst drivers. Try Italy. The craziest experience I had was with an Egyptian guy. No regard for any rules. Full out from the minute we got in the car. U-turns over the median. Actually drove on the sidewalk like in the movies. Crazy. This wasn’t a cab driver or something. This was a guy in management at the company I was doing work for. In a tie. Smiling and chatting the whole time.

- Dkos


Yeah! Try a cab ride in Rome. Rome, where the road signs and signals are mere suggestions.
Flybynight88
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: NJ
Joined: 01.29.2010

May 28 @ 11:23 AM ET
Here is the question. Are Reinbacher or Pellikka #1 NHL defensemen or just the best defensemen in this class?

I tend to believe they are not. Both should be solid top 4's but I don't think we should be using this high of a pick for one of them when the selection of 1st line future forwards potentially available.

- MBFlyerfan

Agree with you on this. From all I've read, Reinbacher and Pellikka are projected to be good 2nd pair D. You have to try and get a 1st line forward this year. Next years draft is the year of the Dman. There are 3 RHD projected to go in the top 10 with 2 having 1st pair potential.
Laceemup88
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 11.26.2018

May 28 @ 11:53 AM ET
Here is the question. Are Reinbacher or Pellikka #1 NHL defensemen or just the best defensemen in this class?

I tend to believe they are not. Both should be solid top 4's but I don't think we should be using this high of a pick for one of them when the selection of 1st line future forwards potentially available.

- MBFlyerfan


I agree. I don’t believe they are worthy of the #7 pick. Feel like the Flyers would be reaching there. Also agree with the other poster about going D for next year, when the prospects are higher on D.
Briere
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 07.02.2011

May 28 @ 12:48 PM ET
Yeah! Try a cab ride in Rome. Rome, where the road signs and signals are mere suggestions.
- mikeyo27


oddly, I have found Rome to be pretty orderly in terms of cabs and street traffic. The cab stands keep things organized and most drivers are pretty professional.

Compared to Paris. I drove there once and still get anxiety thinking about it.
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