Really? Shanny didn't want to fire Dubas. He had to. If a GM on an expired contract publicly says he's not sure he wants to be the GM. The owners will say ok done. Looking to blame Shanahan here is BS.
- winsix

A whole bunch of Leaf fans have suddenly turned vicious and believe Shanny's narrative a little too much.

What Shanny didn't like was that he told the truth to the media which was that it had been a hard and draining year and he would consult with his family on any decisions going forward. He had already said the same thing to Shanny - which by his own admission, he agreed with.

Two days later - TWO days - Shanny was informed that things were settled with the family and they were good to proceed.

Now there are a variety of reports here from what Dubas countered with in the initial offer, but accounts are that he wanted more money and less restrictions. This part is actually negotiating the deal. The first part was him having been presented with an offer and him saying, "Let me talk it over with my family." Shanahan can simply say here, "I like the original framework better," and leave it up to Dubas to accept it or walk away.

A GM in this case on an expired deal is no different than player on an expired deal. You talk framework, present the framework for a deal, hammer out the details (that where the negotiation is) and then write up and sign the official legal contract.

Regardless of that, the day following the counter, with no conversation or negotiation, Shanahan fired Dubas.

Flip this to that idea that you approach a free agent, talk framework, present him with the outline of a deal, and he says 'let me talk it over with my wife,' and two days later he is happy to join the organization but wants more term or money and instead of countering or explaining the reasons for the finances in the framework, your response is, 'We're going in another direction'. The player and his agent are less likely to consider you a reliable business partner in the future.

Now if Shanny made the decision that Dubas wasn't the guy, certainly you're right - he had to fire him to proceed with a GM search. He hadn't though when he presented him with the framework for the contract.

The new guy, whoever it is, has a ton - A TON - of damage to undo in terms of people left with a feeling of broken faith and promises by the Shanahan led portion of MLSE. And my true concern here is that the best employees are people who are working together for one another who believe in what they're doing. When doubt creeps in and when people aren't moving in the same direction problems are going to arise.

He has every right to do what he did, but the way he did it has inflicted a lot of damage that we haven't even seen yet.

When your gm comes out and says that he doesn’t know if he wants to come back it’s pretty hard to blame them for not having a plan in place.

Any other team that fires a gm has to go through the same process. Pittsburgh cleaned house with no idea who they would hire, everything gets blown out of proportion in Toronto.
- shack67

Yeah, but I think it could’ve been worked out…

As for Pittsburgh… Hexy & Burke were such a complete disaster there’s no way they could keep them.


The homeless guy down at Taco Bell would’ve been a better choice.

Had to ?? nah… obviously none of us knows all the details… i’m thinking, though one on one conversation between them coulda bridged the gap..

Something along the lines of .. hey I saw your presser. I got some issues and questions about it. Let’s sit down and hash it out..

Instead, it looks like Shanny made an emotionally charged rash decision… without a plan in place.
- dozerD10

Hopefully, Shanahan is the problem, otherwise the ownership group is responsible for the tardy decision making process, and we are stuck with them.

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- Monkeypunk

Leafs will move forward without Dubas - that is reality. Could you imagine the GM of an important franchise like Montreal, NYR, Boston or Chicago holding a presser stating that "he was not sure if he wanted to be the GM any longer" not getting the axe?

A whole bunch of Leaf fans have suddenly turned vicious and believe Shanny's narrative a little too much.

What Shanny didn't like was that he told the truth to the media which was that it had been a hard and draining year and he would consult with his family on any decisions going forward. He had already said the same thing to Shanny - which by his own admission, he agreed with.

Two days later - TWO days - Shanny was informed that things were settled with the family and they were good to proceed.

Now there are a variety of reports here from what Dubas countered with in the initial offer, but accounts are that he wanted more money and less restrictions. This part is actually negotiating the deal. The first part was him having been presented with an offer and him saying, "Let me talk it over with my family." Shanahan can simply say here, "I like the original framework better," and leave it up to Dubas to accept it or walk away.

A GM in this case on an expired deal is no different than player on an expired deal. You talk framework, present the framework for a deal, hammer out the details (that where the negotiation is) and then write up and sign the official legal contract.

Regardless of that, the day following the counter, with no conversation or negotiation, Shanahan fired Dubas.

Flip this to that idea that you approach a free agent, talk framework, present him with the outline of a deal, and he says 'let me talk it over with my wife,' and two days later he is happy to join the organization but wants more term or money and instead of countering or explaining the reasons for the finances in the framework, your response is, 'We're going in another direction'. The player and his agent are less likely to consider you a reliable business partner in the future.

Now if Shanny made the decision that Dubas wasn't the guy, certainly you're right - he had to fire him to proceed with a GM search. He hadn't though when he presented him with the framework for the contract.

The new guy, whoever it is, has a ton - A TON - of damage to undo in terms of people left with a feeling of broken faith and promises by the Shanahan led portion of MLSE. And my true concern here is that the best employees are people who are working together for one another who believe in what they're doing. When doubt creeps in and when people aren't moving in the same direction problems are going to arise.

He has every right to do what he did, but the way he did it has inflicted a lot of damage that we haven't even seen yet.
- Monkeypunk

Shanahan is known to be a smooth corporate player. You pretty well have to be to survive in the weird MLSE environment. If there was board pressure to move Dubas or even to bring in Treliving, Shanny gives himself cover by moving out Dubas. If he had bucked them at all and rehired him, his ass would have been in the line. Now he’s got cover if Larry T’s boy can’t get it done. He’s also ensured that that his power Gus-a-vis the GM is strengthened

[b]If the Sens contend for a playoff spot next season they will have a great year and return to being top 5 in NHL team attendance.

Ottawa/Gatineau has a deep pool of wealth and the highest average household income in Canada. They will gift millions of $000 in Sens Christmas swag next year.

Ryan Reynolds will be with the team in Sweden on opening night and he will have multiple cameras focussed on the young Sens.

I think both Dorion and Smith remain with the team, although Dorion has his powers adjusted for a new boss that comes in over top of him.

DeBrincat is moved and the cap space is used for a power forward and goaltender.

Leafs offer up Marner for Brady Tkachuk.

Dorion is told by his new boss not answer any phone call with a 416 area code.
- spatso

Mike Augello: Is Shanahan Serious With His Belief In The “Core Four”???
- mikeinbuffalo

Imagine missing quotas and failing at your job for seven years and then being called by your boss to let you know how great of an employee you are 😆😆😆😆😆😆😆

new blog everyone

When your gm comes out and says that he doesn’t know if he wants to come back it’s pretty hard to blame them for not having a plan in place.

Any other team that fires a gm has to go through the same process. Pittsburgh cleaned house with no idea who they would hire, everything gets blown out of proportion in Toronto.
- shack67

You have six weeks before your GMs contract is expiring anyways. To say he had to leave himself in a spot he had no GM is complete horsepoop.

If you've decided to replace him, allow him to work while you shut your blow hole and interview replacements.

Shanahan is a moron.