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Tumbleweed
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: avid reader of the daily douche news
Joined: 03.14.2014

Oct 27 @ 5:58 PM ET
7 games in he is ruined.

I agree

- golfingsince


Who comes to camp out of shape?

And why did benning sign him to a poop deal?
golfingsince
Location: This message is Marwood approved!
Joined: 11.30.2011

Oct 27 @ 6:00 PM ET
Who comes to camp out of shape?

And why did benning sign him to a poop deal?

- Tumbleweed


I'll let Prock answer this.
Tumbleweed
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: avid reader of the daily douche news
Joined: 03.14.2014

Oct 27 @ 6:01 PM ET
I'll let Prock answer this.
- golfingsince


At least you have eriksson for the next 6 years.
golfingsince
Location: This message is Marwood approved!
Joined: 11.30.2011

Oct 27 @ 6:05 PM ET
At least you have eriksson for the next 6 years.
- Tumbleweed


Yeah in hindsight we didn't need him to score on Andersen.
Tumbleweed
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: avid reader of the daily douche news
Joined: 03.14.2014

Oct 27 @ 6:06 PM ET
Yeah in hindsight we didn't need him to score on Andersen.
- golfingsince


He's the only guy that can't score on andersen
systemtool
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Real men always have to poo, ON
Joined: 09.12.2007

Oct 27 @ 6:08 PM ET
He's the ony guy that can't score on andersen
- Tumbleweed


I'm pretty sure one of the sedins can tip in a goal off their canes.
systemtool
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Real men always have to poo, ON
Joined: 09.12.2007

Oct 27 @ 6:11 PM ET
Guys guys....this isn't a Leafs vs Canucks thread. Everyone knows the Leafs are in a better situation. Sens at least make closer. Even though they suck too. They all suck.
spatso
Ottawa Senators
Location: jensen beach, FL
Joined: 02.19.2007

Oct 27 @ 6:30 PM ET
keep telling me how expenses don't impact profit, you dolt.
- prock


Cute. Nice shift in language. I understand, you understand.

But the underlying point really is important. The idea that suits own the Leaf ticket market is highly misleading. Companies see tickets as an opportunity cost and they aggressively use ticket distribution as part of their corporate strategy. The days are long passed where tickets are casually passed out to people who might have an interest. A ticket gets offered up because it is part of your retention strategy or your trying to write new business with an existing or new customer.

Most corporations require a documented request with an implicit justification. Years ago National Revenue destroyed the opportunity of suits supporting each other by exchanging tickets for each other's benefit. National Revenue forbids the practice of my giving you my tickets and you giving me your tickets without legitimate business explanation. The entire suits argument has been bogus for many years.

walshyleafsfan
Vancouver Canucks
Location: I really don't care about Nylander, I really hope he gets injured and is out - Makita
Joined: 07.14.2011

Oct 27 @ 6:40 PM ET
Guys guys....this isn't a Leafs vs Canucks thread. Everyone knows the Leafs are in a better situation. Sens at least make closer. Even though they suck too. They all suck.
- systemtool

We could do a Marlies vs Nucks. Who's in a better shape?
systemtool
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Real men always have to poo, ON
Joined: 09.12.2007

Oct 27 @ 6:42 PM ET
We could do a Marlies vs Nucks. Who's in a better shape?
- walshyleafsfan


That could be close.
Tumbleweed
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: avid reader of the daily douche news
Joined: 03.14.2014

Oct 27 @ 6:46 PM ET
Cute. Nice shift in language. I understand, you understand.

But the underlying point really is important. The idea that suits own the Leaf ticket market is highly misleading. Companies see tickets as an opportunity cost and they aggressively use ticket distribution as part of their corporate strategy. The days are long passed where tickets are casually passed out to people who might have an interest. A ticket gets offered up because it is part of your retention strategy or your trying to write new business with an existing or new customer.

Most corporations require a documented request with an implicit justification. Years ago National Revenue destroyed the opportunity of suits supporting each other by exchanging tickets for each other's benefit. National Revenue forbids the practice of my giving you my tickets and you giving me your tickets without legitimate business explanation. The entire suits argument has been bogus for many years.

- spatso


a long winded way of saying companies pretty much need to give clients/customers tickets for the cost to be deductible for taxes.

so thanks for helping subsidize beer at the acc
walshyleafsfan
Vancouver Canucks
Location: I really don't care about Nylander, I really hope he gets injured and is out - Makita
Joined: 07.14.2011

Oct 27 @ 6:47 PM ET
That could be close.
- systemtool

I still can't believe those (frank)tards picked Virtanen ahead of Nylander.


Virtanen 60 7 6 13
Nylander 28 10 12 22
Tumbleweed
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: avid reader of the daily douche news
Joined: 03.14.2014

Oct 27 @ 6:48 PM ET
It does not work that way. When a business buys a package of tickets for promotional purposes it is simply a business expense. So, for example, Yellow Pages has x number of tickets to give to loyal customers in Ottawa and Toronto. GTA Yellow Pages can probably cost justify giving out tickets at a 4:1 ratio over Ottawa Yellow Pages.
- spatso


Oh and false.

Nobody wants sens tickets.
systemtool
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Real men always have to poo, ON
Joined: 09.12.2007

Oct 27 @ 7:07 PM ET
I still can't believe those (frank)tards picked Virtanen ahead of Nylander.


Virtanen 60 7 6 13
Nylander 28 10 12 22

- walshyleafsfan


Did they really?
Tumbleweed
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: avid reader of the daily douche news
Joined: 03.14.2014

Oct 27 @ 7:24 PM ET
Did they really?

- systemtool


spatso
Ottawa Senators
Location: jensen beach, FL
Joined: 02.19.2007

Oct 27 @ 10:11 PM ET
a long winded way of saying companies pretty much need to give clients/customers tickets for the cost to be deductible for taxes.

so thanks for helping subsidize beer at the acc

- Tumbleweed


Duh!

Has nothing to do with it.

Companies cannot deduct the cost of hockey tickets from taxes. Companies cannot deduct charitable gifts.

It is a legitimate promotional expense in most instances even when tickets are donated to a charity.

The beginning of this had to do with the reference to suits as being the beneficiary of the hockey tickets at the ACC. That used to be the case years ago. Company A would buy hockey tickets and give them to the guys at Company B. Company B had tickets and gave them to A. That was the suit scandal that Revenue Canada shut down.
Tumbleweed
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: avid reader of the daily douche news
Joined: 03.14.2014

Oct 27 @ 10:13 PM ET
Duh!

Has nothing to do with it.

Companies cannot deduct the cost of hockey tickets from taxes. Companies cannot deduct charitable gifts.

It is a legitimate promotional expense in most instances even when tickets are donated to a charity.

The beginning of this had to do with the reference to suits as being the beneficiary of the hockey tickets at the ACC. That used to be the case years ago. Company A would buy hockey tickets and give them to the guys at Company B. Company B had tickets and gave them to A. That was the suit scandal that Revenue Canada shut down.

- spatso





You're a fucking idiot

Thanks for helping pay for my beers all those times i went for free
spatso
Ottawa Senators
Location: jensen beach, FL
Joined: 02.19.2007

Oct 28 @ 3:31 AM ET


You're a fucking idiot

Thanks for helping pay for my beers all those times i went for free

- Tumbleweed


Oh my. You are one of the weaker posters. We do appreciate your effort and hope you will stay around until December when the commentary becomes more serious.
systemtool
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Real men always have to poo, ON
Joined: 09.12.2007

Oct 28 @ 7:11 AM ET
Oh my. You are one of the weaker posters. We do appreciate your effort and hope you will stay around until December when the commentary becomes more serious.
- spatso



Trolling at 3 am.

walshyleafsfan
Vancouver Canucks
Location: I really don't care about Nylander, I really hope he gets injured and is out - Makita
Joined: 07.14.2011

Oct 28 @ 7:22 AM ET
Trolling at 3 am.


- systemtool



He's at church
spatso
Ottawa Senators
Location: jensen beach, FL
Joined: 02.19.2007

Oct 28 @ 7:26 AM ET



He's at church

- walshyleafsfan



I have a cold and when I lay down the coughing is.heavy. So, I sat up. Wrote a short presentation I have to make next week. Hate being sick.
burn
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Tavares is sledge hockey level - Islesrbettr, ON
Joined: 08.02.2006

Oct 28 @ 8:05 AM ET


He's at church

- walshyleafsfan




prock
Vegas Golden Knights
Location: Bobby Ryan + 1st rounder for Clarkson, ON
Joined: 08.30.2007

Oct 28 @ 8:14 AM ET
Actually you said Blacker was much better, and that Fred Gauthier was better than Horvat.

That's OK though, nobody takes you seriously.

Where is Blacker now?

- golfingsince


They're all poop. Blacker and corrado are garbage, Gauthier might end up as a depth forward and Horvat is nothing more than a depth forward if he were to ever get outside the most garbage team in the league

And you can look it up Skippy, I said corrado would be the 4th best prospect in the leafs organization, on part with blacker. Go ahead, find a post. I dare you.

You're just making poop up left right and centre. It's because you're a loser. And your team is total garbage.


prock
Vegas Golden Knights
Location: Bobby Ryan + 1st rounder for Clarkson, ON
Joined: 08.30.2007

Oct 28 @ 8:15 AM ET
7 games in he is ruined.

I agree

- golfingsince



or ruined. Just crap. Like the whole organization.


Are you honestly going to try to make excuse anythung? The Canucks are even a bigger joke than the sens right now and you know it worst organization in the whole NHL right now. And you know it.

Highest scoring forward under the age of 36 last year? 40 points. That's fucling sad. Even at the leafs worst they wereally not THAT bad.
prock
Vegas Golden Knights
Location: Bobby Ryan + 1st rounder for Clarkson, ON
Joined: 08.30.2007

Oct 28 @ 8:22 AM ET
Cute. Nice shift in language. I understand, you understand.

But the underlying point really is important. The idea that suits own the Leaf ticket market is highly misleading. Companies see tickets as an opportunity cost and they aggressively use ticket distribution as part of their corporate strategy. The days are long passed where tickets are casually passed out to people who might have an interest. A ticket gets offered up because it is part of your retention strategy or your trying to write new business with an existing or new customer.

Most corporations require a documented request with an implicit justification. Years ago National Revenue destroyed the opportunity of suits supporting each other by exchanging tickets for each other's benefit. National Revenue forbids the practice of my giving you my tickets and you giving me your tickets without legitimate business explanation. The entire suits argument has been bogus for many years.

- spatso



I understand you're a dolt that's trying to tell me expenses don't factor into profit.
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