Just as many as there were in the leafs net vs the Islanders.

Let's remember that Ottawa's starting goaltender, has only played in 19 games so far this season, and managed to win 12 of them. The remaining 32 games were played with either our 2nd or 3rd back up goaltenders.

The leafs have had their starting goaltender play 43 games for them .......... I suspect if Ottawa had their starter for 43 games this season, they would probably be sitting much more comfortably in a playoff spot than they are now.
- D0PPELGANGER

Sens fans talk of what might have been if not for injuries every f*&king year. It's like one of Spatso's phases.

I finally have some free time so I can update everyone on the sportsclubstats playoff odds again.

http://www.sportsclubstats.com/NHL.html

Toronto 83.3%
Ottawa 74.5%

Sens fans talk of what might have been if not for injuries every f*&king year. It's like one of Spatso's phases.
- prock

It gets to the point where you have to just think, hmm, maybe we have injury prone players.

It gets to the point where you have to just think, hmm, maybe we have injury prone players.
- daeth

Well Anderson is not out because he is injured

Doubtful.

Condon has given you guys very good goal goaltending up until recently…as good or better than Anderson

Your condon has finally burst…
- Tumbleweed

right.. up until recently he was sitting at around .915 or a little more.. I guess it possible Anderson does better, but he is a career .920 with Ottawa

so they might be a in little better spot..but not much..and there is always the chance he is a little worse

Well Anderson is not out because he is injured
- senstroll

This changes everything

This changes everything
- daeth

Yes Cancer does

50+ games in and the Leafs and Sens are tied in points

Spatso saw this coming

Yes Cancer does
- senstroll

top 10 in man games lost last year. with macarthur out all year i'm sure they're up there again too.

it gets to the point where you can't really be surprised anymore. like lupul in toronto.

top 10 in man games lost last year. with macarthur out all year i'm sure they're up there again too.

it gets to the point where you can't really be surprised anymore. like lupul in toronto.
- daeth

Leafs got to be up there with lupul, robidas and horton injuries...

Leafs got to be up there with lupul, robidas and horton injuries...
- Tumbleweed

i don't really feel they count personally. them being on the IR is better for the team than them being healthy.

i don't really feel they count personally. them being on the IR is better for the team than them being healthy.
- daeth

I am just saying why we can’t talk about this. I agree, the leafs are better with those guys on the IR, but why can’t we talk about all the man-games lost to injury the leafs had this season.

top 10 in man games lost last year. with macarthur out all year i'm sure they're up there again too.

it gets to the point where you can't really be surprised anymore. like lupul in toronto.
- daeth

top 10 out of 30 teams

Does being out for your wife being sick count in he man games lost dept?

Doubtful.

Condon has given you guys very good goal goaltending up until recently…as good or better than Anderson

Your condon has finally burst…
- Tumbleweed

Condon has been adequate up until his last Ten or Twelve games........ about the time he's been showing fatigue.

No question, getting Anderson back will help the team .............. but they need to score more goals, because at this time of the season, all teams start to get their defensive game plans in order.

Craig Anderson GAA 2.46 - S% .924
Mike Condon GAA 2.58 - S% .911

Is it even close?
- twiztedmike

This part is not on my job description

Sens fans talk of what might have been if not for injuries every f*&king year. It's like one of Spatso's phases.
- prock

leaf fans have been whining all season about their teams unfair schedule, with too may b2b games and playing too many rested team than all other teams ...... every freaking year they complain about crap.

Condon has been adequate up until his last Ten or Twelve games........ about the time he's been showing fatigue.

No question, getting Anderson back will help the team .............. but they need to score more goals, because at this time of the season, all teams start to get their defensive game plans in order.

Craig Anderson GAA 2.46 - S% .924
Mike Condon GAA 2.58 - S% .911
- D0PPELGANGER

Agreed. The last couple weeks he started to leak and finally burst this past week.

But up until January 22 he was as good as Anderson:

.920 & 2.32 from Nov 2 to Jan 22.

leaf fans have been whining all season about their teams unfair schedule, with too may b2b games and playing too many rested team than all other teams ...... every freaking year they complain about crap.
- D0PPELGANGER

I sure as (frank) have not. In fact, I don't think anyone has. I believe one of the Leaf fans responded to complaints from Sens fans regarding THEIR schedule.

The only comments I've made on the schedule were regarding the Sens fans having a relatively easy schedule early on, and very difficult throuigh December and Jan.

We've been hearing about Bobby Ryan and his broken fingers and wrists and years now, Macarthur and his concussions, and poop, it took about 4 years for a lot of Sens fans to stop saying Karlsson was still suffering from his achilles.

I sure as (frank) have not. In fact, I don't think anyone has. I believe one of the Leaf fans responded to complaints from Sens fans regarding THEIR schedule.

The only comments I've made on the schedule were regarding the Sens fans having a relatively easy schedule early on, and very difficult throuigh December and Jan.

We've been hearing about Bobby Ryan and his broken fingers and wrists and years now, Macarthur and his concussions, and poop, it took about 4 years for a lot of Sens fans to stop saying Karlsson was still suffering from his achilles.
- prock

I agree, you did not, but a couple of other leaf fans were.

none of that matters..its nothing new, Team playing b2b vs a rested team (a team that did not play the night before) preform poorly ..there are lots of articles on it with lots of Data.

Now over a season if all teams had roughly the same amount it wouldnt really matter too much..but thats not the case

Ottawa gets a good schedule and the Leafs not so much when it comes tob2b


- senstroll

I don't get how the league can make the swing's so dramatic. Obviously it's hard to schedule all the teams each year, but the Leafs having to play a rested team while tired 14 times and the Sens only having to do it 7 times is frankly bizarre. I mean twice as many? C'mon.

Also, if they want to make these rivalries they keep talking bout, how do you have divisional match ups were the Leafs play the night before and the Sens and Habs don't.

What rivalry are you creating when one team is still divulging what happened the night before and the other is sipping pina coladas?
- walshyleafsfan

Can you show me how many there were for that season, Id like to take a look at it


Edit: I think I found it for 13-14 season

Leafs Tired - 9
Ottawa Tired - 11
high low ranged from 6-16


Leafs rested - 10
Ottawa rested - 11
high low ranged from 5-20


So I would say the leafs have it worse this season.

Also I am not against the compressed schedule... its the huge disparity in b2b tired vs rested thats the issue. Its an advantage for several teams
- senstroll

I agree, you did not, but a couple of other leaf fans were.
- D0PPELGANGER

I recall the posts but also seem to recall that was preceeded by complaints from sens fans. basically a "stop your complaining you're not hard done by" from sens fans. am I wrong?

Agreed. The last couple weeks he started to leak and finally burst this past week.

But up until January 22 he was as good as Anderson:

.920 & 2.32 from Nov 2 to Jan 22.
- Tumbleweed

It's all the goalies fault the Leafs are much better than the Sens offensively.

I agree, you did not, but a couple of other leaf fans were.
- D0PPELGANGER

Good backreading d0pps.

Its important to hold people accountable for what they've said and to always stick up for the truth!

Perhaps hockey has never seen such a great and triumphal celebration. It is actually good for hockey. Finally, Leaf fans having something to cheer. We get to watch them revelling in their hard won victory of a last place finish. There is no doubt Leaf fans have convincingly won the summer. But, soon enough, the boys will return to the ice and once again the scoreboard will matter.
- spatso

Oh.

Accountability.

Oh.

Accountability.
- systemtool

nice

One of the better blue and white comments.

Kadri 25 years old (will be 26 by season start) 6' and 192 lbs had 17 goals, 28 assists and 48 points. He was minus (15) on the season.

ZBad 23 years old (does not have next birthday until near end of season) 6'2" and 222 lbs. had 21 goals, 30 assists and 51 points. He was minus (2) on the season.

Now tell us again, how do Sens fans misunderstand which is the better asset?

Everybody loves Leafs summer chatter.

Go big blue.
We love you
We know we are due
Don't want to feel blue
So, we'll take on a new hue
We can pretend were not screwed!
- spatso