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kingcong39
Buffalo Sabres
Location: albany, NY
Joined: 02.21.2007

Jul 25 @ 5:53 PM ET
Umm. Unloading Eichel, Risto, and Reinhart.

I get he was forced but still. Very risky to do what he did

- Sabretooth9


You mean after he tried for a season to win with them, even after Eichel asked out?

Also, classifying unloading Ristolainen as risky šŸ˜‚šŸ˜‚
sbroads24
Buffalo Sabres
Location: We are in 30th place. It's 2017 , NY
Joined: 02.12.2012

Jul 25 @ 5:55 PM ET
We also should factor in that Adams has gotten incredibly lucky so far, even with the inaction

Thereā€™s no way he knew Granato would be this good with the kids otherwise another team wouldā€™ve hired him a while ago

Granato was already here and was an easy hire. I think thatā€™s luck

Heā€™s also lucky Botterill actually knew talent and just was abhorrent at hiring coaches
Hank Balling
Buffalo Sabres
Joined: 05.18.2021

Jul 25 @ 6:27 PM ET
Other than risking the Season with the goaltending. Has Adams made a risky move since he took over ?
- Buff36


The best defense of his risk taking is some of his contract decision-making: Tage, Samuelsson and Cozens

In terms of acquisitions, the risky ones only happen when pressed
Buff36
Buffalo Sabres
Joined: 10.13.2019

Jul 25 @ 6:46 PM ET
The best defense of his risk taking is some of his contract decision-making: Tage, Samuelsson and Cozens

In terms of acquisitions, the risky ones only happen when pressed

- Hank Balling

Sabres are loaded with Talent, probably a little to much with as young of a team as they are. Don't get me wrong it's pretty wild how deep they really are, and it's Quality with quantity. Really like to see Adams step out of his little comfort zone and take a atleast a shot at something. There's enough talent in the Organization to really make a team think about a certain player or players. Would it really suck to drop from the Number 1 ranked pool to the 6th ranked prospect pool cause we went for it.
Buff36
Buffalo Sabres
Joined: 10.13.2019

Jul 25 @ 7:16 PM ET
Herbert just cashed in 5yr 262.5mill extension.
Sabretooth9
Buffalo Sabres
Joined: 05.24.2019

Jul 25 @ 7:27 PM ET
Wouldn't call that risky, still ? to be answered with all those trades. Thank God Tuch has been a monster
- Buff36


Itā€™s risky to trade a franchise center with lots of term left

And then trade a 2nd overall pick
IndianaSabresFan
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Matt FRICKIN ELLIS, IN
Joined: 01.17.2007

Jul 25 @ 7:27 PM ET
You mean after he tried for a season to win with them, even after Eichel asked out?

Also, classifying unloading Ristolainen as risky šŸ˜‚šŸ˜‚

- kingcong39

Unloading risto was a net gain. And he got one hell of a return.
Buff36
Buffalo Sabres
Joined: 10.13.2019

Jul 25 @ 7:30 PM ET
Itā€™s risky to trade a franchise center with lots of term left

And then trade a 2nd overall pick

- Sabretooth9

Not really when everyone knew it was coming and basically self inflicted.
Wetbandit1
Vegas Golden Knights
Location: Unpopular opinion (i think): The best Die Hard movie is the 4th one- Live free or Die Hard -jdfitz7, NY
Joined: 10.07.2010

Jul 25 @ 7:31 PM ET
We also should factor in that Adams has gotten incredibly lucky so far, even with the inaction

Thereā€™s no way he knew Granato would be this good with the kids otherwise another team wouldā€™ve hired him a while ago

Granato was already here and was an easy hire. I think thatā€™s luck

Heā€™s also lucky Botterill actually knew talent and just was abhorrent at hiring coaches

- sbroads24


I don't know that that's true. Wasn't he the coach of the USNDT? You're generally not going to get hired in that role unless you're a good developmental coach.

Other front offices are allowed to suck, too.
kingcong39
Buffalo Sabres
Location: albany, NY
Joined: 02.21.2007

Jul 25 @ 7:49 PM ET
I don't know that that's true. Wasn't he the coach of the USNDT? You're generally not going to get hired in that role unless you're a good developmental coach.

Other front offices are allowed to suck, too.

- Wetbandit1


One of the greatest player turnarounds in a very long time has happened under Granato.

Don't know that anyone thought that was possible, or even a remote chance of it taking place.

The Sabres would be in a scary place without that miracle.
Buff36
Buffalo Sabres
Joined: 10.13.2019

Jul 25 @ 7:52 PM ET
I don't know that that's true. Wasn't he the coach of the USNDT? You're generally not going to get hired in that role unless you're a good developmental coach.

Other front offices are allowed to suck, too.

- Wetbandit1

Him getting sick delayed his road to the NHL
Swedish_Jesus
Buffalo Sabres
Joined: 07.02.2019

Jul 25 @ 8:06 PM ET
One of the greatest player turnarounds in a very long time has happened under Granato.

Don't know that anyone thought that was possible, or even a remote chance of it taking place.

The Sabres would be in a scary place without that miracle.

- kingcong39


Idk if I would go that far, but it would be sub-optimal.

There would be more pressure on Cozens or Savoie to grow into a Super Star 1C.

I think Cozens has 1C potential and talent, but I donā€™t think he has the offensive ceiling to put him in that category of an Eichel that we needed to replace.

Even without including Tage, the roster and pipeline is deep down the middle.

Tage becoming who he is though is a huge luxury and cements us as Stanley Cup contender quite soon (although Donnie needs to get him to play any semblance of defence imo).


kingcong39
Buffalo Sabres
Location: albany, NY
Joined: 02.21.2007

Jul 25 @ 8:13 PM ET
Idk if I would go that far, but it would be sub-optimal.

There would be more pressure on Cozens or Savoie to grow into a Super Star 1C.

I think Cozens has 1C potential and talent, but I donā€™t think he has the offensive ceiling to put him in that category of an Eichel that we needed to replace.

Even without including Tage, the roster and pipeline is deep down the middle.

Tage becoming who he is though is a huge luxury and cements us as Stanley Cup contender quite soon (although Donnie needs to get him to play any semblance of defence imo).

- Swedish_Jesus


They have 2 of the most difficult things to find in hockey, and they actually have 2 of the second.

Time for Adams to stop sitting on his hands. It's go time.
Lunaion
Joined: 05.23.2016

Jul 25 @ 8:16 PM ET
Idk if I would go that far, but it would be sub-optimal.

There would be more pressure on Cozens or Savoie to grow into a Super Star 1C.

I think Cozens has 1C potential and talent, but I donā€™t think he has the offensive ceiling to put him in that category of an Eichel that we needed to replace.

Even without including Tage, the roster and pipeline is deep down the middle.

Tage becoming who he is though is a huge luxury and cements us as Stanley Cup contender quite soon (although Donnie needs to get him to play any semblance of defence imo).

- Swedish_Jesus


If Tage didn't do his Tage thing, C is a mess two years ago. More pressure on Cozens, Mitts, and Krebs. They were not ready for it at the time, and still may not be today. Also would have put a ton of pressure on KA.

Don't think you can overstate just how important he's been.
kingcong39
Buffalo Sabres
Location: albany, NY
Joined: 02.21.2007

Jul 25 @ 8:28 PM ET
If Tage didn't do his Tage thing, C is a mess two years ago. More pressure on Cozens, Mitts, and Krebs. They were not ready for it at the time, and still may not be today. Also would have put a ton of pressure on KA.

Don't think you can overstate just how important he's been.

- Lunaion


Tage was a revelation as a 30-30 player.

He almost went 50-50 last year.

Agreed that his importance cannot be understated.

He's also a giant man, which is important too.
Swedish_Jesus
Buffalo Sabres
Joined: 07.02.2019

Jul 25 @ 8:31 PM ET
If Tage didn't do his Tage thing, C is a mess two years ago. More pressure on Cozens, Mitts, and Krebs. They were not ready for it at the time, and still may not be today. Also would have put a ton of pressure on KA.

Don't think you can overstate just how important he's been.

- Lunaion


Tage is extremely important, but saying we would be in a ā€œscary situationā€ without him is a tad bit harsh too.

Having Tage enables the Sabres to allow their drafted prospects to grow into secondary scoring roles that will propel this team into being an absolute wagon.

Without Tage, youā€™re looking at trading Savoie/Kulich ++++ for a super star talent.

Even with Tageā€™s immense offensive talent, I wouldnā€™t be shocked if Cozens became the most important forward on the team in terms of the full package.
Swedish_Jesus
Buffalo Sabres
Joined: 07.02.2019

Jul 25 @ 8:36 PM ET
ā€œUntil 2005, teams received a compensatory draft pick if one of their players left as a free agent. In 2002, Bostonā€™s Bill Guerin signed with Dallas, Boston was awarded a compensatory 2003 second round pick, 45th overall. The Bruins used it to select Patrice Bergeron.ā€

https://twitter.com/gmill...&t=6ozfhCixhusrXmBzHaC8-Q
Wetbandit1
Vegas Golden Knights
Location: Unpopular opinion (i think): The best Die Hard movie is the 4th one- Live free or Die Hard -jdfitz7, NY
Joined: 10.07.2010

Jul 25 @ 8:40 PM ET
Him getting sick delayed his road to the NHL
- Buff36


That's true, maybe teams didn't want to take a chance on a guy only for him to suffer a recurrence and be out indefinitely
Sabretooth9
Buffalo Sabres
Joined: 05.24.2019

Jul 25 @ 8:42 PM ET
Herbert just cashed in 5yr 262.5mill extension.
- Buff36


Good for him ā€¦ā€¦ good for the bills for getting Allen for cheap
Nightmare Fuel
Atlanta Thrashers
Joined: 07.26.2022

Jul 25 @ 8:54 PM ET
Tageā€™s turnaround is why I think Greenway has the potential to score 20 goals in a season. A 40 point player in the middle 6.

Put him on the wing with Mitts and Olofsson. See if it works. Whatever.
kingcong39
Buffalo Sabres
Location: albany, NY
Joined: 02.21.2007

Jul 25 @ 8:57 PM ET
Tageā€™s turnaround is why I think Greenway has the potential to score 20 goals in a season. A 40 point player in the middle 6.

Put him on the wing with Mitts and Olofsson. See if it works. Whatever.

- Nightmare Fuel


Why would we want to go down that road again...?
sbroads24
Buffalo Sabres
Location: We are in 30th place. It's 2017 , NY
Joined: 02.12.2012

Jul 25 @ 8:59 PM ET
Tage is extremely important, but saying we would be in a ā€œscary situationā€ without him is a tad bit harsh too.

Having Tage enables the Sabres to allow their drafted prospects to grow into secondary scoring roles that will propel this team into being an absolute wagon.

Without Tage, youā€™re looking at trading Savoie/Kulich ++++ for a super star talent.

Even with Tageā€™s immense offensive talent, I wouldnā€™t be shocked if Cozens became the most important forward on the team in terms of the full package.

- Swedish_Jesus

Thatā€™s Tage and will be Tage as long as heā€™s this caliber of player.

If other teams did what they do to Tage, to Cozens weā€™d see a much less effective Cozens.

Teams literally tried to prevent Tage from shooting the puck for half of a season and he still had 94 points
Hatboro_Swords
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Next year is gonna be 05/06 all over again, PA
Joined: 07.30.2010

Jul 25 @ 9:02 PM ET
Tageā€™s turnaround is why I think Greenway has the potential to score 20 goals in a season. A 40 point player in the middle 6.

Put him on the wing with Mitts and Olofsson. See if it works. Whatever.

- Nightmare Fuel

I like that line. Line 3. Whoā€™s playing with Peterka and Cozens?

Edit: Kulich!
Swedish_Jesus
Buffalo Sabres
Joined: 07.02.2019

Jul 25 @ 9:17 PM ET
Thatā€™s Tage and will be Tage as long as heā€™s this caliber of player.

If other teams did what they do to Tage, to Cozens weā€™d see a much less effective Cozens.

Teams literally tried to prevent Tage from shooting the puck for half of a season and he still had 94 points

- sbroads24


Oh 100% he is our most important forward as of today.

I donā€™t think Cozens is a finished product though by any sense of the imagination and heā€™s already one of the best possession players in the sport in terms of exiting/entering the zone with possession.

30 + goals with room to grow, and the potential of the defensive maturation and all of a sudden the Workhorse from White Horse can definitely be the heartbeat of this team.

homiedclown
Buffalo Sabres
Location: We want 1, FL
Joined: 02.24.2008

Jul 25 @ 9:31 PM ET
hawk owner passes


he has 3 kids from first wife


do they inherit the team that was passed down to him or the trophy wife?


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