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kingcong39
Buffalo Sabres
Location: albany, NY
Joined: 02.21.2007

Oct 26 @ 9:36 AM ET
he's got 3 seasons left, just can't see him going anywhere. sure we revisit once he's pending.
- TheSabresTaco


Two seasons, after the current one.
TheSabresTaco
Buffalo Sabres
Location: For me. jack Eichel is bobby ryan….that's it. - Octavarium, NY
Joined: 05.05.2011

Oct 26 @ 9:36 AM ET
wait til boston, dallas or the preds throw a few td's behind levi
- homiedclown


heh. hopefully not. he's staying here though, even if he does face a paper transaction or two.
homiedclown
Buffalo Sabres
Location: We want 1, FL
Joined: 02.24.2008

Oct 26 @ 9:37 AM ET
he's got 3 seasons left, just can't see him going anywhere. sure we revisit once he's pending.
- TheSabresTaco

a lot of wingers coming up

it's a cap era

great value if they moved tuch this offseason, and easier to do if you lock casey up long term

kingcong39
Buffalo Sabres
Location: albany, NY
Joined: 02.21.2007

Oct 26 @ 9:37 AM ET
why are we trading casey again?

if your going to move a guy up front with value, it's probably tuch, use that money to sign casey long term

- homiedclown


Wouldn't it cost what Tuch is making on his current deal and then some to sign Casey to an extension?
TheSabresTaco
Buffalo Sabres
Location: For me. jack Eichel is bobby ryan….that's it. - Octavarium, NY
Joined: 05.05.2011

Oct 26 @ 9:37 AM ET
Two seasons, after the current one.
- kingcong39


ok sorry 2 seasons plus 75 games
TheSabresTaco
Buffalo Sabres
Location: For me. jack Eichel is bobby ryan….that's it. - Octavarium, NY
Joined: 05.05.2011

Oct 26 @ 9:38 AM ET
a lot of wingers coming up

it's a cap era

great value if they moved tuch this offseason, and easier to do if you lock casey up long term

- homiedclown


I see the value in it. Don't like it though. But you're right, the value is very high.
homiedclown
Buffalo Sabres
Location: We want 1, FL
Joined: 02.24.2008

Oct 26 @ 9:39 AM ET
Wouldn't it cost what Tuch is making on his current deal and then some to sign Casey to an extension?
- kingcong39

yup
casey and tuch current money would be about the same as casey's new money and savorie or kulichs cap hit next season

homiedclown
Buffalo Sabres
Location: We want 1, FL
Joined: 02.24.2008

Oct 26 @ 9:42 AM ET
I see the value in it. Don't like it though. But you're right, the value is very high.
- TheSabresTaco

colorado, stars, rangers, vegas, bruins

he would look really good on any of those team's second line in a cup run
kingcong39
Buffalo Sabres
Location: albany, NY
Joined: 02.21.2007

Oct 26 @ 9:43 AM ET
colorado, stars, rangers, vegas, bruins

he would look really good on any of those team's second line in a cup run

- homiedclown


We all know they are not trading captain vibes at any point.

He was the first outsider who signed up as wanting to be here.

He's going nowhere.
TheSabresTaco
Buffalo Sabres
Location: For me. jack Eichel is bobby ryan….that's it. - Octavarium, NY
Joined: 05.05.2011

Oct 26 @ 9:44 AM ET
We all know they are not trading captain vibes at any point.

He was the first outsider who signed up as wanting to be here.

He's going nowhere.

- kingcong39

oh that's definitely true.
Buff36
Buffalo Sabres
Joined: 10.13.2019

Oct 26 @ 10:05 AM ET
Highly doubt Tuch is going anywhere, his contract at this point is a steal. Get rid of the Jost, Okposo, Girgensons, Olofsson, Krebs.
Theguywiththething
Joined: 07.17.2021

Oct 26 @ 10:07 AM ET
We all know they are not trading captain vibes at any point.

He was the first outsider who signed up as wanting to be here.

He's going nowhere.

- kingcong39


It's hilarious that the above is contextually factual for the Sabres. It's also pathetic.
Theguywiththething
Joined: 07.17.2021

Oct 26 @ 10:09 AM ET
Highly doubt Tuch is going anywhere, his contract at this point is a steal. Get rid of the Jost, Okposo, Girgensons, Olofsson, Krebs.
- Buff36


By measurement of homer fan emotions, none of the players named matter as they are only 1 year deals, they don't hurt the team.
Buff36
Buffalo Sabres
Joined: 10.13.2019

Oct 26 @ 10:10 AM ET
By measurement of homer fan emotions, none of the players named matter as they are only 1 year deals, they don't hurt the team.
- Theguywiththething

That about 12mill wasted against the cap, it hurts your team
Theguywiththething
Joined: 07.17.2021

Oct 26 @ 10:19 AM ET
That about 12mill wasted against the cap, it hurts your team
- Buff36


No team cares about 1/4 of their forward group, the 4th line is literally just guys picked up off the street on league minimum. They serve no roles so these players can't hurt the team because they only signed for 1 year.

Even if you pay them league max, it's only 1 year - how could that hurt the team?
TheSabresTaco
Buffalo Sabres
Location: For me. jack Eichel is bobby ryan….that's it. - Octavarium, NY
Joined: 05.05.2011

Oct 26 @ 10:19 AM ET
It's hilarious that the above is contextually factual for the Sabres. It's also pathetic.
- Theguywiththething


i mean he's also good, but this argument could be used on Kyle.
Theguywiththething
Joined: 07.17.2021

Oct 26 @ 10:29 AM ET
i mean he's also good, but this argument could be used on Kyle.
- TheSabresTaco


Tuch is great, the internal justifications we have all become accustomed to are funny, not a dig at anyone.

He wants to be here so he stays - the saying was desperate for a desperate team in a desperate time.

Lets be honest, players look at teams like Boston and think "I get the opportunity to play there".

homiedclown
Buffalo Sabres
Location: We want 1, FL
Joined: 02.24.2008

Oct 26 @ 10:31 AM ET
Highly doubt Tuch is going anywhere, his contract at this point is a steal. Get rid of the Jost, Okposo, Girgensons, Olofsson, Krebs.
- Buff36

krebs or girgens may get you a 4th round pick


may
IonSabres
Buffalo Sabres
Location: I said that months ago, keep up!, FL
Joined: 03.10.2013

Oct 26 @ 10:33 AM ET
Highly doubt Tuch is going anywhere, his contract at this point is a steal. Get rid of the Jost, Okposo, Girgensons, Olofsson, Krebs.
- Buff36


Voice of reason.

To be clear, I am not advocating for the trade of Mitts to fire him into the sun to be rid of him.
Quite the opposite in fact.
It is in full recognition of his value, under the premise that to acquire value, one needs to trade value back.
Also, acquiring a true Top 3/4 Rh-Dman will take a lot if value to consummate the deal.

Yes, Mitts is finally achieving his potential as a 7OA pick 7 seasons ago...that is a ton that has been invested in him by the Sabres.

I have far more confidence that one of a plethora of F prospect can replace him, than one of the D prospects in the pool can achieve a true #3/4 RhD.

So, looking at the vacuum of should the Sabres trade Mitts now, without the proper context is a very easy assertion to make. I don't think it holds water without leaking a bit when in context.
homiedclown
Buffalo Sabres
Location: We want 1, FL
Joined: 02.24.2008

Oct 26 @ 10:34 AM ET
That about 12mill wasted against the cap, it hurts your team
- Buff36

12 min is a hell of an upgrade for top 4 rd and goalie

Buff36
Buffalo Sabres
Joined: 10.13.2019

Oct 26 @ 10:34 AM ET
krebs or girgens may get you a 4th round pick


may

- homiedclown

Most should never have been brought back
homiedclown
Buffalo Sabres
Location: We want 1, FL
Joined: 02.24.2008

Oct 26 @ 10:37 AM ET
Voice of reason.

To be clear, I am not advocating for the trade of Mitts to fire him into the sun to be rid of him.
Quite the opposite in fact.
It is in full recognition of his value, under the premise that to acquire value, one needs to trade value back.
Also, acquiring a true Top 3/4 Rh-Dman will take a lot if value to consummate the deal.

Yes, Mitts is finally achieving his potential as a 7OA pick 7 seasons ago...that is a ton that has been invested in him by the Sabres.

I have far more confidence that one of a plethora of F prospect can replace him, than one of the D prospects in the pool can achieve a true #3/4 RhD.

So, looking at the vacuum of should the Sabres trade Mitts now, without the proper context is a very easy assertion to make. I don't think it holds water without leaking a bit when in context.

- IonSabres

good blog


if you move casey, you can't get blah like craig rivet, josh gorges, robyn regehr

you need to get a legit rd with upside

TheSabresTaco
Buffalo Sabres
Location: For me. jack Eichel is bobby ryan….that's it. - Octavarium, NY
Joined: 05.05.2011

Oct 26 @ 10:37 AM ET
krebs or girgens may get you a 6th round pick


may

- homiedclown



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Buff36
Buffalo Sabres
Joined: 10.13.2019

Oct 26 @ 10:37 AM ET
Voice of reason.

To be clear, I am not advocating for the trade of Mitts to fire him into the sun to be rid of him.
Quite the opposite in fact.
It is in full recognition of his value, under the premise that to acquire value, one needs to trade value back.
Also, acquiring a true Top 3/4 Rh-Dman will take a lot if value to consummate the deal.

Yes, Mitts is finally achieving his potential as a 7OA pick 7 seasons ago...that is a ton that has been invested in him by the Sabres.

I have far more confidence that one of a plethora of F prospect can replace him, than one of the D prospects in the pool can achieve a true #3/4 RhD.

So, looking at the vacuum of should the Sabres trade Mitts now, without the proper context is a very easy assertion to make. I don't think it holds water without leaking a bit when in context.

- IonSabres

Hear what your saying, have to look at the big picture to. Kulich has been playing a lot of C in Rochester. Is he your 3C of the future, if he is then Mitts is a logical choice to use for your Top RD Upgrade.
homiedclown
Buffalo Sabres
Location: We want 1, FL
Joined: 02.24.2008

Oct 26 @ 10:38 AM ET
Most should never have been brought back
- Buff36

I thought greenway was the upgrade for girgens at the time of the trade

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