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Lunaion
Joined: 05.23.2016

Oct 26 @ 2:09 PM ET
I don't agree with that logic. 40/82 = .487. 69 *.487=33.6

It's been a while, but I believe I found 4 games. It's razor thin.

- Lunaion


Can't believe I'm digging into this one again, seemed like a dead end, but I found the MoU that I believe covers it.

"Accrued Season: 30/40 thresholds shall be pro-rated by a factor of [70/82] if the Player was a Roster Freeze Player. If a Player was not a Roster Freeze Player, the 30/40 threshold shall not be pro-rated."

Did the Sabres have a roster freeze? Anyone have cap friendly premium to tell?

https://www.capfriendly.c...vid-roster-freeze-players
IonSabres
Buffalo Sabres
Location: I said that months ago, keep up!, FL
Joined: 03.10.2013

Oct 26 @ 2:12 PM ET
oh interesting. which means he was on the roster for 34 games.

prorated, 39 games.

- TheSabresTaco


Or this proration,
40 gm qualification within normal 82 gm season = 48.78%
48.78% of 69 gms actually played = 33.66 or rounded to 34 gms for qualification.

Hmmmmmm
TheSabresTaco
Buffalo Sabres
Location: For me. jack Eichel is bobby ryan….that's it. - Octavarium, NY
Joined: 05.05.2011

Oct 26 @ 2:14 PM ET
Can't believe I'm digging into this one again, seemed like a dead end, but I found the MoU that I believe covers it.

"Accrued Season: 30/40 thresholds shall be pro-rated by a factor of

- Lunaion[70/82] if the Player was a Roster Freeze Player. If a Player was not a Roster Freeze Player, the 30/40 threshold shall not be pro-rated."

Did the Sabres have a roster freeze? Anyone have cap friendly premium to tell?

https://www.capfriendly.c...vid-roster-freeze-players


good find. As he was demoted well before March 16th, he was not a roster freeze player.
TheSabresTaco
Buffalo Sabres
Location: For me. jack Eichel is bobby ryan….that's it. - Octavarium, NY
Joined: 05.05.2011

Oct 26 @ 2:14 PM ET
Or this proration,
40 gm qualification within normal 82 gm season = 48.78%
48.78% of 69 gms actually played = 33.66 or rounded to 34 gms for qualification.

Hmmmmmm

- IonSabres


As long as proration counts, which I do not believe it does since he was demoted.
Lunaion
Joined: 05.23.2016

Oct 26 @ 2:16 PM ET
good find. As he was demoted well before March 16th, he was not a roster freeze player.
- TheSabresTaco


Do you have access? I believe there were call ups for it.
TheSabresTaco
Buffalo Sabres
Location: For me. jack Eichel is bobby ryan….that's it. - Octavarium, NY
Joined: 05.05.2011

Oct 26 @ 2:19 PM ET
Do you have access? I believe there were call ups for it.
- Lunaion


I don't. But reading the the MoU, it reads out as "Players in the
NHL as of 5:00 p.m. New York time on March 16, 2020 (the “Roster Freeze”)"

The roster freeze is the cancellation of the season. If you were rostered on that day, you were a freeze player.
kingcong39
Buffalo Sabres
Location: albany, NY
Joined: 02.21.2007

Oct 26 @ 2:21 PM ET
As long as proration counts, which I do not believe it does since he was demoted.
- TheSabresTaco


Prorating counted for any player who played NHL games during the 19-20 season, whether they were demoted or not at any point.
kingcong39
Buffalo Sabres
Location: albany, NY
Joined: 02.21.2007

Oct 26 @ 2:22 PM ET
I don't. But reading the the MoU, it reads out as "Players in the
NHL as of 5:00 p.m. New York time on March 16, 2020 (the “Roster Freeze”)"

The roster freeze is the cancellation of the season. If you were rostered on that day, you were a freeze player.

- TheSabresTaco


Pretty sure many teams called players up so they could be part of the roster freeze.
Lunaion
Joined: 05.23.2016

Oct 26 @ 2:22 PM ET
I don't. But reading the the MoU, it reads out as "Players in the
NHL as of 5:00 p.m. New York time on March 16, 2020 (the “Roster Freeze”)"

The roster freeze is the cancellation of the season. If you were rostered on that day, you were a freeze player.

- TheSabresTaco


Roster Freeze Players are players who meet the following requirements:
Players in the NHL as of 5:00pm ET on March 16, 2020
Players with at least 1 game played in the NHL in the 2019-20 season

I don't know if the Sabres had a freeze roster at all. If they did he could have been on it.
TheSabresTaco
Buffalo Sabres
Location: For me. jack Eichel is bobby ryan….that's it. - Octavarium, NY
Joined: 05.05.2011

Oct 26 @ 2:24 PM ET
Pretty sure many teams called players up so they could be part of the roster freeze.
- kingcong39


that's not part of his transaction history
DirtyDan
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Why aren't more people interrigent? Rike Me? , ON
Joined: 02.03.2021

Oct 26 @ 2:25 PM ET
both of them middle pair in the nhl

he lead the team in scoring at the prospect tourney



https://www.buffalohockey...n-first-games-in-buffalo/


biggest issue for him is he is a LD

behind
dahlin
power
samuelsson
and ryan johnson

- homiedclown


Dont the bolded play both sides?
TheSabresTaco
Buffalo Sabres
Location: For me. jack Eichel is bobby ryan….that's it. - Octavarium, NY
Joined: 05.05.2011

Oct 26 @ 2:27 PM ET
Roster Freeze Players are players who meet the following requirements:
Players in the NHL as of 5:00pm ET on March 16, 2020
Players with at least 1 game played in the NHL in the 2019-20 season

I don't know if the Sabres had a freeze roster at all. If they did he could have been on it.

- Lunaion


welp. He's at 39.83 games if they prorate him. 34 if he doesn't. Interested in learning the answer.
DirtyDan
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Why aren't more people interrigent? Rike Me? , ON
Joined: 02.03.2021

Oct 26 @ 2:34 PM ET
wut
- TheSabresTaco


Sorry add "I can" at the beginning.

Quinn coming off that injury, who knows what he'll look like when back. Hopefully hes right back where he left off but it is a tough injury to deal with. He was my favourite player last year... Went and got his name on my Goat Head Jersey. So im not just picking on him. Have to see him when he gets back obviously.

JJ a bit different, they may like another prospect more like Kulich, since he can play both C/W. JJ has looked good this year, IMO, I will say.
Lunaion
Joined: 05.23.2016

Oct 26 @ 2:38 PM ET
welp. He's at 39.83 games if they prorate him. 34 if he doesn't. Interested in learning the answer.
- TheSabresTaco


You don't prorate him. You pro-rate the requirement.

34.14. They don't mention anything about rounding. If the 34 is accurate, I'd say it doesn't count.

How sure am I about rounding, the freeze roster, or 1 scratch? Even less than I was a few hours ago.
TheSabresTaco
Buffalo Sabres
Location: For me. jack Eichel is bobby ryan….that's it. - Octavarium, NY
Joined: 05.05.2011

Oct 26 @ 2:42 PM ET
You don't prorate him. You pro-rate the requirement.

34.14. They don't mention anything about rounding. If the 34 is accurate, I'd say it doesn't count.

How sure am I about rounding, the freeze roster, or 1 scratch? Even less than I was a few hours ago.

- Lunaion

well we gave it our all.
homiedclown
Buffalo Sabres
Location: We want 1, FL
Joined: 02.24.2008

Oct 26 @ 2:42 PM ET
Dont the bolded play both sides?
- DirtyDan

samuelsson yes


the gophers had 4LD and 2RD playing last year but I do not think Koster or Faber were on the bottom pair, their 2 RD's and I do not think Johnson was on their bottom pair I thought Cal Thomoas was playing out of place on the third pair as RD

they rotated 7 the year before with 3 being RD's

I thought I read he could play either side though
TheSabresTaco
Buffalo Sabres
Location: For me. jack Eichel is bobby ryan….that's it. - Octavarium, NY
Joined: 05.05.2011

Oct 26 @ 2:44 PM ET
Sorry add "I can" at the beginning.

Quinn coming off that injury, who knows what he'll look like when back. Hopefully hes right back where he left off but it is a tough injury to deal with. He was my favourite player last year... Went and got his name on my Goat Head Jersey. So im not just picking on him. Have to see him when he gets back obviously.

JJ a bit different, they may like another prospect more like Kulich, since he can play both C/W. JJ has looked good this year, IMO, I will say.

- DirtyDan


not sure how productive it would be to remove an established ELC player for an even younger unestablished ELC player with a similar game.
DirtyDan
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Why aren't more people interrigent? Rike Me? , ON
Joined: 02.03.2021

Oct 26 @ 2:44 PM ET
samuelsson yes


the gophers had 4LD and 2RD playing last year but I do not think Koster or Faber were on the bottom pair, their 2 RD's and I do not think Johnson was on their bottom pair I thought Cal Thomoas was playing out of place on the third pair as RD

they rotated 7 the year before with 3 being RD's

I thought I read he could play either side though

- homiedclown


I know I've read it from posters here. Just not sure if its factual or not.

He's playing LD in Roch I assume then?
homiedclown
Buffalo Sabres
Location: We want 1, FL
Joined: 02.24.2008

Oct 26 @ 2:47 PM ET
Sorry add "I can" at the beginning.

Quinn coming off that injury, who knows what he'll look like when back. Hopefully hes right back where he left off but it is a tough injury to deal with. He was my favourite player last year... Went and got his name on my Goat Head Jersey. So im not just picking on him. Have to see him when he gets back obviously.

JJ a bit different, they may like another prospect more like Kulich, since he can play both C/W. JJ has looked good this year, IMO, I will say.

- DirtyDan

Pacioretty tore the ACL in the offseason, came back early Jan and tore if again 5 games later

no guarantee with quinn for this season
Hatboro_Swords
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Next year is gonna be 05/06 all over again, PA
Joined: 07.30.2010

Oct 26 @ 2:48 PM ET
#trolling
- Boss34

6K is the perfect backup for this team. Team plays great in front of him. Add it to the long list of takes you and I were the only ones right on. It is a bit nerve racking how far out of the crease he plays. Oh well just makes him play that much bigger.

Who’s gonna win tonight?
homiedclown
Buffalo Sabres
Location: We want 1, FL
Joined: 02.24.2008

Oct 26 @ 2:51 PM ET
I know I've read it from posters here. Just not sure if its factual or not.

He's playing LD in Roch I assume then?

- DirtyDan

prow and cecconi are both RD

no clue which LD is playing RD for rochester, but one of the others are

DirtyDan
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Why aren't more people interrigent? Rike Me? , ON
Joined: 02.03.2021

Oct 26 @ 2:52 PM ET
not sure how productive it would be to remove an established ELC player for an even younger unestablished ELC player with a similar game.
- TheSabresTaco


Quinn coming off a tough injury. Could very well move on from him if they feel he isnt the same player.

JJ they could think they can get something for him (include in a trade for a D upgrade) and can easily replace his #'s.

I like both players just think this could happen. Both arent really that established.
homiedclown
Buffalo Sabres
Location: We want 1, FL
Joined: 02.24.2008

Oct 26 @ 2:57 PM ET
Quinn coming off a tough injury. Could very well move on from him if they feel he isnt the same player.

JJ they could think they can get something for him (include in a trade for a D upgrade) and can easily replace his #'s.

I like both players just think this could happen. Both arent really that established.

- DirtyDan

quinn
15 goals in 77 games for the sabres

peterka
14 goals in 86 games for the sabres

girgens
12 goals in his last 87 games for the sabres
DirtyDan
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Why aren't more people interrigent? Rike Me? , ON
Joined: 02.03.2021

Oct 26 @ 3:01 PM ET
quinn
15 goals in 77 games for the sabres

peterka
14 goals in 86 games for the sabres

girgens
12 goals in his last 87 games for the sabres

- homiedclown


Can't wait till Quinn's back. Really want the kid to succeed. And to show off the Jersey

We still looking at the new year for him?
homiedclown
Buffalo Sabres
Location: We want 1, FL
Joined: 02.24.2008

Oct 26 @ 3:03 PM ET
Air Raid | Buffalo
@TheBillsGuys
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1h
Josh Norman gonna be elevated this afternoon for Kaiir Elam (non-injury related) … woof. What a whifff

My guess is, with the trade deadline being Tuesday, they don’t want to risk Elam to serious injury.
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