Nfdbulldawg
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Location: NY Joined: 06.29.2007
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I would be a no too because you would have to trade a key asset or two from the current roster to get Him and make the money work.
I’m willing to listen to who you’re going to trade to obtain him without losing too many pieces which actually makes the team better when getting him. - nyisles7
First, I do not say it would make the team better. I said there are pieces that could be traded. Varly % of salary retained , Mayfield % of salary retained, Walhstrom and a 2nd.
Isles get Nylander and Samsonov.. my reasoning is that the leafs need to solidify their defense. They have enough fire power.
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nyisles7
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Location: Magical Lou, NY Joined: 01.20.2009
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You not wrong, but what do you do when it does not work out. It always seems as though the Isles are working from a disadvantage. Sorokin's contract is not a bad contract as long as he stays healthy. It will be a steal. If you think Varly is being paid too much...(like me)... He is back-u and mentor...lol...The other way to look at it is that Isles have a couple of years to get another goalie to take Varly spot. And lets be honest the two games he has played he has been solid.
Mayfield too long.. problem is none of prospects are pushing hard enough to have let him good. Engvall term is too long. Then again, no one was breaking down the doors to come here. You need your top guys to recruit. - Nfdbulldawg
Every teams goal is to make the POs and then it’s a new season.
Love the Varly signing. Not a better tandem in the league. Which doesn’t seem like much but he can keep you in games being the back up and give sOrOkin some relief and not have to pay him too much like last year. I truly think sOrOkin was tired in the POs last year because Varly went down. He played a lot more games last year than ever before in his career.
If you don’t have a solid back up then you’re one injury away from writing off the season. You can never be too strong in goal imho.
Mayfield and Engvail are both longer than optimal term but they both were getting more in the open market. If Engvail continues to play like he has he’s a bargain at the AAV. Deal with the term when the team is out of their winning cycle and the rebuild begins.
Again who would you have gone out and replaced them with?
Lou knew what both Mayfield and Engvail bring to the game. Bringing in new players of course you think/hope they gel with the team but it is an unknown.
Again who was out there that would have been better fits at better money and or term? |
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Cptmjl
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Joined: 11.05.2011
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First, I do not say it would make the team better. I said there are pieces that could be traded. Varly % of salary retained , Mayfield % of salary retained, Walhstrom and a 2nd.
Isles get Nylander and Samsonov.. my reasoning is that the leafs need to solidify their defense. They have enough fire power. - Nfdbulldawg
Both mayfield and Varlamov had NTC’s and love it here. That’s exactly why they both got long term commitments from the team. Wahlstrom and a second doesn’t get it done for nylander. The other problem you have is salary. None of the above mentioned players even if they were all traded works out salary wise with even having a chance to sign nylander. We have some money coming off the books next season which will help but the Leafs aren’t trading nylander for those dudes. |
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nyisles7
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Location: Magical Lou, NY Joined: 01.20.2009
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First, I do not say it would make the team better. I said there are pieces that could be traded. Varly % of salary retained , Mayfield % of salary retained, Walhstrom and a 2nd.
Isles get Nylander and Samsonov.. my reasoning is that the leafs need to solidify their defense. They have enough fire power. - Nfdbulldawg
Then why even make the trade or have the conversation if it doesn’t make the Islanders better. Said it before I love the Varly signing and I’m not trading him.
Also the Isles players you mentioned wouldn’t free enough cap space to fit Nylander.
Don’t think the Leafs make that trade with the players you mentioned but I could and usually am wrong. |
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As per a note from a recent Spectors Trade Rumors post about Flames that mentions Isles.
SPECTOR’S NOTE: Seravalli goes on to say the Flames don’t want to become “the New York Islanders of the West” where they have a team locked into long-term contracts with a group of players that can’t get over the hump. - Nfdbulldawg
Calgary wishes they had some of the contracts the Islander’s have.
female genitalias. |
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nyisles7
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Location: Magical Lou, NY Joined: 01.20.2009
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Calgary wishes they had some of the contracts the Islander’s have.
female genitalias. - Wildschwein
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Nfdbulldawg
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Location: NY Joined: 06.29.2007
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Then why even make the trade or have the conversation if it doesn’t make the Islanders better. Said it before I love the Varly signing and I’m not trading him.
Also the Isles players you mentioned wouldn’t free enough cap space to fit Nylander.
Don’t think the Leafs make that trade with the players you mentioned but I could and usually am wrong. - nyisles7
The Islanders biggest and most glaring hole over the years, not having a complete top line. With Nylander continued stated as being available, what you need to look at is if he can move the needle on this team. Then you need to look at when it would take to get it done. Trade is the only way the way the Islanders seem to be able to acquire players. Hence the reason for the discussion.
While everyone is looking at the Isles money side working out. You need to remember that the Leafs are against the cap and using LTIR to be cap compliant. So, there is a limit as to the money going back as well.
This was purely for discussion purposes.
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ses111
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Joined: 06.07.2008
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The Islanders biggest and most glaring hole over the years, not having a complete top line. With Nylander continued stated as being available, what you need to look at is if he can move the needle on this team. Then you need to look at when it would take to get it done. Trade is the only way the way the Islanders seem to be able to acquire players. Hence the reason for the discussion.
While everyone is looking at the Isles money side working out. You need to remember that the Leafs are against the cap and using LTIR to be cap compliant. So, there is a limit as to the money going back as well.
This was purely for discussion purposes. - Nfdbulldawg
Nylander would no question help the Islanders. It would have really been something if a move for Cat could have been made. Offense will always be the question mark with this current team. Can they score that goal against an elite team in a big spot? |
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eichiefs9
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Location: NY Joined: 11.03.2008
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The Islanders biggest and most glaring hole over the years, not having a complete top line. With Nylander continued stated as being available, what you need to look at is if he can move the needle on this team. Then you need to look at when it would take to get it done. Trade is the only way the way the Islanders seem to be able to acquire players. Hence the reason for the discussion.
While everyone is looking at the Isles money side working out. You need to remember that the Leafs are against the cap and using LTIR to be cap compliant. So, there is a limit as to the money going back as well.
This was purely for discussion purposes. - Nfdbulldawg
Honest question...is there anyone pushing the bolded, outside of Eklund?
Toronto would be better off keeping him for the season and losing him for nothing than trading him away. That's a team that's Stanley-Cup-or-bust and trading away one of their best players for futures would be terrible management. |
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eichiefs9
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Location: NY Joined: 11.03.2008
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Iskhakov working his way towards a call-up at some point in the future, sitting at 8pts through 7 games with yet another terrible Bridgeport team. They gotta give him a look at some point if he keeps producing the way he has since coming to the AHL. |
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ses111
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Iskhakov working his way towards a call-up at some point in the future, sitting at 8pts through 7 games with yet another terrible Bridgeport team. They gotta give him a look at some point if he keeps producing the way he has since coming to the AHL. - eichiefs9
I hope so chief. They could use his speed and SO skills as well.
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ses111
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Joined: 06.07.2008
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Honest question...is there anyone pushing the bolded outside of Eklund?
Toronto would be better off keeping him for the season and losing him for nothing than trading him away. That's a team that's Stanley-Cup-or-bust and trading away one of their best players for futures would be terrible management. - eichiefs9
Have to think it would have to be for a special dman for the Leafs to make a move.
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Cptmjl
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Joined: 11.05.2011
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The Islanders biggest and most glaring hole over the years, not having a complete top line. With Nylander continued stated as being available, what you need to look at is if he can move the needle on this team. Then you need to look at when it would take to get it done. Trade is the only way the way the Islanders seem to be able to acquire players. Hence the reason for the discussion.
While everyone is looking at the Isles money side working out. You need to remember that the Leafs are against the cap and using LTIR to be cap compliant. So, there is a limit as to the money going back as well.
This was purely for discussion purposes. - Nfdbulldawg
Well yeah of course. IF they were to trade nylander they are either looking for A prospects and first round picks(I highly doubt this) so they have wiggle room with salary OR a top pairing D man for immediate help. We don’t have any of the above. There is a zero % chance we trade for nylander bcs of that. Yeah, sure, love to have him but it’s an absolute pipe dream for multiple reasons. Lack of assets, cap space being the predominate reasons while also factoring in the Leafs more then likely not trading him to begin with. |
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Cptmjl
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Honest question...is there anyone pushing the bolded, outside of Eklund?
Toronto would be better off keeping him for the season and losing him for nothing than trading him away. That's a team that's Stanley-Cup-or-bust and trading away one of their best players for futures would be terrible management. - eichiefs9
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Cptmjl
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Iskhakov working his way towards a call-up at some point in the future, sitting at 8pts through 7 games with yet another terrible Bridgeport team. They gotta give him a look at some point if he keeps producing the way he has since coming to the AHL. - eichiefs9
I’m sure he’ll get a look at some point I have zero faith in our lineup staying healthy. |
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ses111
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I’m sure he’ll get a look at some point I have zero faith in our lineup staying healthy. - Cptmjl
I just hope if he gets the call, he plays well and forces the coaching staff to keep him in the lineup.
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Cptmjl
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I just hope if he gets the call, he plays well and forces the coaching staff to keep him in the lineup. - ses111
Yeah of course me to but it’s probably not realistic. He very well may get multiple looks depending on how he does his first call up but the kid has zero NHL experience. That factor along with this organizations reluctance to promote kids to soon will probably prevent him from sticking. Unless he really surprises I agree with that thought process and I honestly don’t see that happening. Hope to be wrong of course.
I think it’s more realistic that Wahlstrom turns a corner then Ishakov having any kind of real impact this season. |
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ses111
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Yeah of course me to but it’s probably not realistic. He very well may get multiple looks depending on how he does his first call up but the kid has zero NHL experience. That factor along with this organizations reluctance to promote kids to soon will probably prevent him from sticking. Unless he really surprises I agree with that thought process and I honestly don’t see that happening. Hope to be wrong of course.
I think it’s more realistic that Wahlstrom turns a corner then Ishakov having any kind of real impact this season. - Cptmjl
Hard to disagree but Islanders are long overdue for a called up forward to take off. I'm hoping Iskhakov's speed will help. |
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Cptmjl
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Hard to disagree but Islanders are long overdue for a called up forward to take off. I'm hoping Iskhakov's speed will help. - ses111
We’ve been saying that for years.
Problem is for years we have had a weak pipeline which is the primary issue. Expecting kids to surprise who were picked more then likely to not make the NHL to begin with is unrealistic. We’re going to come out on the wrong side of those odds more often then not which is exactly what we’re seeing. Hopefully an Ishakov or Dufour breaks through and beats the odds but I’m not holding out hope they have any kind of impact this season. Again, I hope to be wrong. |
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chazpet
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Have to think it would have to be for a special dman for the Leafs to make a move. - ses111
Boulduc.? Done deal. |
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nyisles7
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Location: Magical Lou, NY Joined: 01.20.2009
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The Islanders biggest and most glaring hole over the years, not having a complete top line. With Nylander continued stated as being available, what you need to look at is if he can move the needle on this team. Then you need to look at when it would take to get it done. Trade is the only way the way the Islanders seem to be able to acquire players. Hence the reason for the discussion.
While everyone is looking at the Isles money side working out. You need to remember that the Leafs are against the cap and using LTIR to be cap compliant. So, there is a limit as to the money going back as well.
This was purely for discussion purposes. - Nfdbulldawg
Understood
Game night LGI!!!!
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nyisles7
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Location: Magical Lou, NY Joined: 01.20.2009
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After letting them play the refs sure make a coupke shat calls |
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keaner17
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Location: REJECTED REFEREE Joined: 07.12.2007
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Not exactly a strong performance for Anders tonight. It's really tough watching him struggle to keep up.
The Holmstrom call was terrible |
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JohnScammo
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Location: Coming to a jail near you Joined: 10.14.2014
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Casey! |
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keaner17
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Location: REJECTED REFEREE Joined: 07.12.2007
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Casey setting the example |
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