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Buff36
Buffalo Sabres
Joined: 10.13.2019

Nov 16 @ 11:15 AM ET
all options should be on the table
- homiedclown

I agree, he would help more than Kane IMO, especially with how good he is on the Dot.
washedup20
Location: the little apple
Joined: 08.19.2014

Nov 16 @ 11:16 AM ET
I agree, he would help more than Kane IMO, especially with how good he is on the Dot.
- Buff36



Both players would be massive improvement's
washedup20
Location: the little apple
Joined: 08.19.2014

Nov 16 @ 11:17 AM ET
Amazing what a GM can do when trying...

>>> The Penguins moved (almost) all their bad contracts to acquire Erik Karlsson and the only worthwhile asset they gave up was a lottery protected 1st round pick.

Praise be

↘️ Quoting tay (@rustyy101)

lmfao karlsson rules


- kingcong39


I'd bet if Adams brought in Karlsson he could've got Dahlin and Power to sign to more team friendly terms.
Buff36
Buffalo Sabres
Joined: 10.13.2019

Nov 16 @ 11:19 AM ET
Both players would be massive improvement's
- washedup20

Very much so, but with all those 1yr Deals can you afford both.
ImThatGuy
Buffalo Sabres
Location: I AM MY OWN DAMN SOURCE!, NY
Joined: 11.04.2010

Nov 16 @ 11:28 AM ET
Amazing what a GM can do when trying...

>>> The Penguins moved (almost) all their bad contracts to acquire Erik Karlsson and the only worthwhile asset they gave up was a lottery protected 1st round pick.

Praise be

↘️ Quoting tay (@rustyy101)

lmfao karlsson rules


- kingcong39



Point to this when the Sabres/Sabres fans say they can’t trade VO.

Is it they can’t or refuse to take anything less than overpayment.
QuinnFan
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Formerly Visionville, Now Purgatory
Joined: 07.29.2021

Nov 16 @ 11:28 AM ET
The NBA tournament games also count as regular season games.

It will be interesting to see if fans give two poops about it. I know I wouldn't, if I was an NBA fan.

- Atomic Wedgie


I think it could be fun, we even talked about having a league wide prospects tourney each year. There are options. Agreed it would be interesting to see if it caught on.
Buff36
Buffalo Sabres
Joined: 10.13.2019

Nov 16 @ 11:29 AM ET
Point to this when the Sabres/Sabres fans say they can’t trade VO.

Is it they can’t or refuse to take anything less than overpayment.

- ImThatGuy

A box of Tissues for all the Whiners on here!
QuinnFan
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Formerly Visionville, Now Purgatory
Joined: 07.29.2021

Nov 16 @ 11:32 AM ET
I suggest you look up what the NBA is doing and then reassess the above.
- kingcong39


Why? The NBA in season tourney has knockout rounds. If a team doesn't care about this Cup, then they don't try. What did I miss? Apologies if I'm being dense here.
robz228
Buffalo Sabres
Location: NY
Joined: 07.07.2010

Nov 16 @ 11:32 AM ET
Point to this when the Sabres/Sabres fans say they can’t trade VO.

Is it they can’t or refuse to take anything less than overpayment.

- ImThatGuy


well 2 of those bad contracts they got rid of were included in the karlsson trade

san jose was able to eat a bad contract because they were getting 11 million off their books

unless the sabres are trading for karlsson with VO in the package, this isn't a realistic comparison
robz228
Buffalo Sabres
Location: NY
Joined: 07.07.2010

Nov 16 @ 11:33 AM ET
The NBA tournament games also count as regular season games.

It will be interesting to see if fans give two poops about it. I know I wouldn't, if I was an NBA fan.

- Atomic Wedgie


i thought the idea was cool when they announced it but looking at the implementation now i cant imagine caring at all about it

i'll watch the nba playoffs, no shot i watch this tournament
QuinnFan
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Formerly Visionville, Now Purgatory
Joined: 07.29.2021

Nov 16 @ 11:34 AM ET
Yeah, Adams doesn't know that, or at least he doesn't believe it.
- kingcong39


It's a simple matter of arithmetic, can't see how that isn't plain and obvious.
robz228
Buffalo Sabres
Location: NY
Joined: 07.07.2010

Nov 16 @ 11:37 AM ET
theres 3 teams with cap space to take olofsson

5 teams with cap space to take olofsson at 50%

anyone else would have to include a bad contract to take him so then whats the point

arizona, maybe seattle at 50% are the only realistic places to trade VO

it aint happenin

waive him, either he goes to rochester or chicago claims him. thats it.
Atomic Wedgie
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: The centre of the hockey universe
Joined: 07.31.2006

Nov 16 @ 11:42 AM ET
i thought the idea was cool when they announced it but looking at the implementation now i cant imagine caring at all about it

i'll watch the nba playoffs, no shot i watch this tournament

- robz228

I believe the idea was to rip off European soccer - which has an in-season tournament.

But they don't have playoffs.

I prefer the North American system of regular season (granted, it doesn't mean as much) and then playoffs.

And maybe I'm overthinking this, but if the NHL did it, the trophy would be a joke in comparison to the Stanley Cup. The Bettman Trophy (or whatever) would seem so insignificant in comparison.
SABRES 89
Season Ticket Holder
Buffalo Sabres
Location: I'm very Happy to be here. Las Vegas Via Buffalo N.Y.
Joined: 02.17.2007

Nov 16 @ 11:42 AM ET
all options should be on the table
- homiedclown

Your options are the AHL, they are not trading for anyone.
robz228
Buffalo Sabres
Location: NY
Joined: 07.07.2010

Nov 16 @ 11:44 AM ET
I believe the idea was to rip off European soccer - which has an in-season tournament.

But they don't have playoffs.

I prefer the North American system of regular season (granted, it doesn't mean as much) and then playoffs.

And maybe I'm overthinking this, but if the NHL did it, the trophy would be a joke in comparison to the Stanley Cup. The Bettman Trophy (or whatever) would seem so insignificant in comparison.

- Atomic Wedgie


right, and it works in europe because they either have other competitive international teams (champions league) so you play teams you don't otherwise play

or they have multiple tiers of leagues that all compete in a domestic cup.

they also have much larger rosters with many substitutes who can get starts in against lesser competition in said tournaments

the tournament also being the regular season and also being against all the same teams you already play is like... what is the point at all
Buff36
Buffalo Sabres
Joined: 10.13.2019

Nov 16 @ 11:45 AM ET
Your options are the AHL, they are not trading for anyone.
- SABRES 89

Think most see that, but still hope
kingcong39
Buffalo Sabres
Location: albany, NY
Joined: 02.21.2007

Nov 16 @ 11:51 AM ET
Why? The NBA in season tourney has knockout rounds. If a team doesn't care about this Cup, then they don't try. What did I miss? Apologies if I'm being dense here.
- QuinnFan


They are playing for big cash and a free trip to Vegas.

The knockout round doesn't happen until group play is complete.

All games are part of the regular season schedule except the title game.

>>> What are the awards and prizes?
Players on a team that loses in the quarterfinals: $50,000.
Players on a team that loses in the semifinals: $100,000.
Players on a team that loses in the championship: $200,000.
Players on a team that wins the championship: $500,000.

>>> All 30 teams have been randomly drawn into groups of five within their conference based on won-loss records from the 2022-23 regular season. Beginning Nov. 3 and continuing through Tuesday, Nov. 28, each team will play four designated Group Play games on “Tournament Nights” – one game against each opponent in its group, with two games at home and two on the road.

>>> Eight teams will advance to the Knockout Rounds: the team with the best standing in Group Play games in each of the six groups and two “wild cards” (the team from each conference with the best record in Group Play games that finished second in its group). The Knockout Rounds will be single-elimination games in the Quarterfinals (played in NBA team markets on Monday, Dec. 4 and Tuesday, Dec. 5), Semifinals and Championship. The qualifying teams will compete for a prize pool and the new In-Season Tournament trophy, the NBA Cup.

https://www.nba.com/news/in-season-tournament-101
homiedclown
Buffalo Sabres
Location: We want 1, FL
Joined: 02.24.2008

Nov 16 @ 11:53 AM ET
Your options are the AHL, they are not trading for anyone.
- SABRES 89

adams still needs time to evaluate the roster
Buff36
Buffalo Sabres
Joined: 10.13.2019

Nov 16 @ 12:01 PM ET
adams still needs time to evaluate the roster
- homiedclown

That's why Trades are so hard, these 5 year evaluations aren't good for asset management sometimes.
SABRES 89
Season Ticket Holder
Buffalo Sabres
Location: I'm very Happy to be here. Las Vegas Via Buffalo N.Y.
Joined: 02.17.2007

Nov 16 @ 12:03 PM ET
Think most see that, but still hope
- Buff36

You better hope Tage gets back, that's your hope.
SABRES 89
Season Ticket Holder
Buffalo Sabres
Location: I'm very Happy to be here. Las Vegas Via Buffalo N.Y.
Joined: 02.17.2007

Nov 16 @ 12:03 PM ET
adams still needs time to evaluate the roster
- homiedclown

I understand, rebuilding in just a shade under 3 decades takes a little time.
Lunaion
Joined: 05.23.2016

Nov 16 @ 12:09 PM ET
It's a simple matter of arithmetic, can't see how that isn't plain and obvious.
- QuinnFan


Pointed out a few times recently that KA was a 1st rounder who didn't stick in the NHL until 25. That's part of the equation here. He doesn't expect them all to stick immediately, or even get a real opportunity to.

I don't think he's planning on being proacticve on this, rather, just planning to let the kids fight it out and the losers play in Roch.
ImThatGuy
Buffalo Sabres
Location: I AM MY OWN DAMN SOURCE!, NY
Joined: 11.04.2010

Nov 16 @ 12:42 PM ET
well 2 of those bad contracts they got rid of were included in the karlsson trade

san jose was able to eat a bad contract because they were getting 11 million off their books

unless the sabres are trading for karlsson with VO in the package, this isn't a realistic comparison

- robz228


Sure whatever you say.
Lunaion
Joined: 05.23.2016

Nov 16 @ 12:45 PM ET

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Don Granato confirmed that the Sabres are leaning toward starting Eric Comrie in Winnipeg on Friday night.

Just need to get the final go-ahead from the medical staff. He'll also have to be activated off IR.
QuinnFan
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Formerly Visionville, Now Purgatory
Joined: 07.29.2021

Nov 16 @ 12:50 PM ET
They are playing for big cash and a free trip to Vegas.

The knockout round doesn't happen until group play is complete.

All games are part of the regular season schedule except the title game.

>>> What are the awards and prizes?
Players on a team that loses in the quarterfinals: $50,000.
Players on a team that loses in the semifinals: $100,000.
Players on a team that loses in the championship: $200,000.
Players on a team that wins the championship: $500,000.

>>> All 30 teams have been randomly drawn into groups of five within their conference based on won-loss records from the 2022-23 regular season. Beginning Nov. 3 and continuing through Tuesday, Nov. 28, each team will play four designated Group Play games on “Tournament Nights” – one game against each opponent in its group, with two games at home and two on the road.

>>> Eight teams will advance to the Knockout Rounds: the team with the best standing in Group Play games in each of the six groups and two “wild cards” (the team from each conference with the best record in Group Play games that finished second in its group). The Knockout Rounds will be single-elimination games in the Quarterfinals (played in NBA team markets on Monday, Dec. 4 and Tuesday, Dec. 5), Semifinals and Championship. The qualifying teams will compete for a prize pool and the new In-Season Tournament trophy, the NBA Cup.

https://www.nba.com/news/in-season-tournament-101

- kingcong39


That seems like chump change for basketball salaries. I believe the average salary is closing in on $10m. Do you think there'll be that much drive for them to play hard? On top of those salaries they'd have three times the incentive to prepare for the Finals, no?
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