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DirtyDan
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Why aren't more people interrigent? Rike Me? , ON
Joined: 02.03.2021

Jan 9 @ 12:22 PM ET
When did this become a rule? I want aware of it. How did Makj Stone sign an agreement hours after being fraxwd?
- IonSabres


Pretty sure they made this rule in the last few years. If im not mistaken. (Around covid maybe)

Stone signed the extension like 2 weeks after he was traded back in 2019. I dont think it was a rule then but I could be wrong.
sabresfan69
Buffalo Sabres
Joined: 06.26.2007

Jan 9 @ 12:23 PM ET
if this is the lineup

what do you do with savoie, ostlund and rosen

you almost have to move one of them this summer if your keeping that for the top 9

- homiedclown

Ostlund and Savoie will be in the AHL.

Rosen will be first call up.

No way Ostlund comes over and jumps to the NHL.
Buff36
Buffalo Sabres
Joined: 10.13.2019

Jan 9 @ 12:23 PM ET
Gotta give to get. Bonk is highly ratedall around 2 d PIring Dman with1st PIring upside. At 18, when developed properly would make an excellent patner for either Dahlin or Partner. Guus liketbjs don't grow on trees at RHD.

JJP is solid and developing very, very nicely indeed. Konecny rwplaces his output on wing, and Benson can play in his spot. Kulich and Rosen coming up also softens that blow.

Adding in Tanev fills the void while Bonk develops.

Sure beats Adams sitting on his ass with his thumbs up there...fills alot of needs IMO.

- IonSabres

I agree, using a area of strength to fill a weak.
IonSabres
Buffalo Sabres
Location: I said that months ago, keep up!, FL
Joined: 03.10.2013

Jan 9 @ 12:23 PM ET
Agreed. Get Skinner out of here.

- DirtyDan


Can't, full NMC and a Buyout ia a non starter for 2 more seaaons
DirtyDan
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Why aren't more people interrigent? Rike Me? , ON
Joined: 02.03.2021

Jan 9 @ 12:29 PM ET
Gotta give to get. Bonk is highly ratedall around 2 d PIring Dman with1st PIring upside. At 18, when developed properly would make an excellent patner for either Dahlin or Partner. Guus liketbjs don't grow on trees at RHD.

JJP is solid and developing very, very nicely indeed. Konecny rwplaces his output on wing, and Benson can play in his spot. Kulich and Rosen coming up also softens that blow.

Adding in Tanev fills the void while Bonk develops.

Sure beats Adams sitting on his ass with his thumbs up there...fills alot of needs IMO.

- IonSabres


Seems like we have pretty solid RHD prospect in Strbak.

Selected after Bonk and looked better on a lesser team this past WJ's.

The trade (not including acquiring Tanev cause thats a whole nother trade) doesn't do anything for this team in the short term(most likely hurts them) and might not even help the long term.

Konecny has 1 more left on his contract as well. So you'll have to negotiate an increase there as well.
Buff36
Buffalo Sabres
Joined: 10.13.2019

Jan 9 @ 12:39 PM ET
Seems like we have pretty solid RHD prospect in Strbak.

Selected after Bonk and looked better on a lesser team this past WJ's.

The trade (not including acquiring Tanev cause thats a whole nother trade) doesn't do anything for this team in the short term(most likely hurts them) and might not even help the long term.

Konecny has 1 more left on his contract as well. So you'll have to negotiate an increase there as well.

- DirtyDan

Does it look like Adams is doing anything for the Team know at this point. Still seems to be looking to the future.
Buff36
Buffalo Sabres
Joined: 10.13.2019

Jan 9 @ 12:40 PM ET
Vrabel gone
homiedclown
Buffalo Sabres
Location: We want 1, FL
Joined: 02.24.2008

Jan 9 @ 12:43 PM ET
Vrabel gone
- Buff36

he will be the pats next coach if they clean house
DirtyDan
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Why aren't more people interrigent? Rike Me? , ON
Joined: 02.03.2021

Jan 9 @ 12:44 PM ET
Does it look like Adams is doing anything for the Team know at this point. Still seems to be looking to the future.
- Buff36


I dont care what adams is doing.

Were talking about hypothetical trades here. What we talk about and what the Sabres are actually doing have no connection so why bring it up?

I just dont understand the thought process behind the trade.

your giving up

Mitts who has shown he can play anywhere in the top 6, winger, center, whatever. top player over the last 82 games.
JJ young up and coming stud of a winger


For

a proven Stud winger in Konecny
and Bonk a RHD prospect whos proven nothing.

And somehow someone suggested we might have to add to that cause Mitts doesn't have contract but is an RFA still. Even though Konecny only has 1 year left after this year.
DirtyDan
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Why aren't more people interrigent? Rike Me? , ON
Joined: 02.03.2021

Jan 9 @ 12:45 PM ET
Your giving up 2 guy you know are NHLer's and good ones at that. For 1 good NHLer and a guy you hope pans out in 3-4 years.

Just wait on Strbak
DirtyDan
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Why aren't more people interrigent? Rike Me? , ON
Joined: 02.03.2021

Jan 9 @ 12:47 PM ET
If im trading Mitts I want a guy I know is a top 4D, heck he better be a number 3 D.
DirtyDan
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Why aren't more people interrigent? Rike Me? , ON
Joined: 02.03.2021

Jan 9 @ 12:48 PM ET
Vrabel gone
- Buff36


Great coach.
washedup20
Location: the little apple
Joined: 08.19.2014

Jan 9 @ 12:56 PM ET
Your giving up 2 guy you know are NHLer's and good ones at that. For 1 good NHLer and a guy you hope pans out in 3-4 years.

Just wait on Strbak

- DirtyDan


washedup20
Location: the little apple
Joined: 08.19.2014

Jan 9 @ 1:00 PM ET
I dont care what adams is doing.

Were talking about hypothetical trades here. What we talk about and what the Sabres are actually doing have no connection so why bring it up?

I just dont understand the thought process behind the trade.

your giving up

Mitts who has shown he can play anywhere in the top 6, winger, center, whatever. top player over the last 82 games.
JJ young up and coming stud of a winger


For

a proven Stud winger in Konecny
and Bonk a RHD prospect whos proven nothing.

And somehow someone suggested we might have to add to that cause Mitts doesn't have contract but is an RFA still. Even though Konecny only has 1 year left after this year.

- DirtyDan


Mitts is mediocre, this is the best he will ever be. On a good team he is a legit 2nd/3rd line winger...that's it.

Trading JJ should be off limits as he is the only one showing consistent growth in his game. Cozens/Quinn should be on the block before JJ due to availability and development.
Buff36
Buffalo Sabres
Joined: 10.13.2019

Jan 9 @ 1:01 PM ET
I dont care what adams is doing.

Were talking about hypothetical trades here. What we talk about and what the Sabres are actually doing have no connection so why bring it up?

I just dont understand the thought process behind the trade.

your giving up

Mitts who has shown he can play anywhere in the top 6, winger, center, whatever. top player over the last 82 games.
JJ young up and coming stud of a winger


For

a proven Stud winger in Konecny
and Bonk a RHD prospect whos proven nothing.

And somehow someone suggested we might have to add to that cause Mitts doesn't have contract but is an RFA still. Even though Konecny only has 1 year left after this year.

- DirtyDan

Mitts who isn't signed and is gonna get payed, if you want to build for know then Konecny fits. And he fits the fiesty side too. Bonk is for the future and is a former 1st rnd pick and a RD to boot. They are murrency in the NHL and cost a bit more. And I said you might have to add to it and it's looking like that could be the case. Seems to be that they want to keep both players anyway in the Sim I did
TheSabresTaco
Buffalo Sabres
Location: For me. jack Eichel is bobby ryan….that's it. - Octavarium, NY
Joined: 05.05.2011

Jan 9 @ 1:01 PM ET
Very interesting. I still think Marjala could surprise people.

Do you know how the NHLe stat is calculated?

- QuinnFan


Yeah. Two monkeys throw poop at the wall and you experience pareidolia by staring at the patterns.

That's NHLe
QuinnFan
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Formerly Visionville, Now Purgatory
Joined: 07.29.2021

Jan 9 @ 1:04 PM ET
https://frozenpool.dobbersports.com/frozenpool_nhle.php

there is a detailed link on this page to explain it

- homiedclown


Makes sense, I knew it was a league comparison but didn't know if it was based on more than points.
QuinnFan
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Formerly Visionville, Now Purgatory
Joined: 07.29.2021

Jan 9 @ 1:04 PM ET
Yeah. Two monkeys throw poop at the wall and you experience pareidolia by staring at the patterns.

That's NHLe

- TheSabresTaco


I don't know why but I always thought this stat was pNHLe. Probably not the case, but thought this might've been different.
QuinnFan
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Formerly Visionville, Now Purgatory
Joined: 07.29.2021

Jan 9 @ 1:06 PM ET
Mitts is mediocre, this is the best he will ever be. On a good team he is a legit 2nd/3rd line winger...that's it.

Trading JJ should be off limits as he is the only one showing consistent growth in his game. Cozens/Quinn should be on the block before JJ due to availability and development.

- washedup20


I'll see you in the parking lot outside Jim's Steakout.
washedup20
Location: the little apple
Joined: 08.19.2014

Jan 9 @ 1:08 PM ET
I'll see you in the parking lot outside Jim's Steakout.
- QuinnFan


TheSabresTaco
Buffalo Sabres
Location: For me. jack Eichel is bobby ryan….that's it. - Octavarium, NY
Joined: 05.05.2011

Jan 9 @ 1:08 PM ET
I don't know why but I always thought this stat was pNHLe. Probably not the case, but thought this might've been different.
- QuinnFan


it's an ok stat if you're like hey, what's this kid's baseline offense looking like for the first couple years in the league, but there's 50 more questions beyond that worth asking more than "what's his NHLe".

It's stupid.
QuinnFan
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Formerly Visionville, Now Purgatory
Joined: 07.29.2021

Jan 9 @ 1:14 PM ET
it's an ok stat if you're like hey, what's this kid's baseline offense looking like for the first couple years in the league, but there's 50 more questions beyond that worth asking more than "what's his NHLe".

It's stupid.

- TheSabresTaco


I hear you, I like looking at those charts Bader puts out, but take them with a grain of salt. Tbh, that's why I asked, was hoping this was a different stat with more data included besides just points and league.
Lunaion
Joined: 05.23.2016

Jan 9 @ 1:16 PM ET
When did this become a rule? I want aware of it. How did Makj Stone sign an agreement hours after being fraxwd?
- IonSabres


Every league has that rule. Ask the team for permission, problem solved.
TheSabresTaco
Buffalo Sabres
Location: For me. jack Eichel is bobby ryan….that's it. - Octavarium, NY
Joined: 05.05.2011

Jan 9 @ 1:17 PM ET
I hear you, I like looking at those charts Bader puts out, but take them with a grain of salt. Tbh, that's why I asked, was hoping this was a different stat with more data included besides just points and league.
- QuinnFan


same data, virtually same approach, but the "P" or "potential-peak" will include development/scoring curves.

it's a little more useful, especially because bader uses players that experienced similar career arcs, so the hit percentages are higher, but it's still amateur poker.

Go enjoy the curves he did for Quinn vs Rossi.
homiedclown
Buffalo Sabres
Location: We want 1, FL
Joined: 02.24.2008

Jan 9 @ 1:25 PM ET
Yeah. Two monkeys throw poop at the wall and you experience pareidolia by staring at the patterns.

That's NHLe

- TheSabresTaco

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