Disputes arise from people's uncertainty about things. When faced with the facts, there will be no disputes. Therefore, both parties in the dispute have at least one thing in common, that is, what they are disputing is an uncertain matter. Speaking of Pettersson, we aren’t quite sure if he’s good or not, otherwise, there will be no augments, that's probably the truth. Pettersson was that yogurt in the fridge that smells ok but expired a week ago; you aren’t quite sure if it’s good or not. But we don't eat the expired food in our fridge, it's garbage, we don't want to gamble and risk our health on that, its not worth it, don’t we? Nobody is sure who he is, the management wants to "wait and see" who he is, the coaching staff are not quite sure where they should put him, even himself is not quite sure what he wants to be, still can't figure out what stick he wants to use. the point is when Canucks sign a huge contract, they just can't afford to put huge money and terms on this guy and gamble with their future, that will be a huge mistake.
- sxqhfeh

We are not sure if Petey is good or not? Hard to find someone besides you who claims that. Even his biggest critics aside from you don't want to be associated with any question if he's good or not.

Don't want to take a risk on Petey because he might be garbage? It's safe to assume he isnt and the risk is much greater trading away a 25 y/o who's best years are ahead of him while he's already top 10.

Management wants to wait and see? You are projecting. They pushed hard for a contract. The are on record saying if Petey wants short term, they will accomodate... if he wants long term, they can do that as well. That indicates they want closure on this, not wait and see. It was Peteys camp who went on hold and banked on this season.

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Bring him home PA

We are not sure if Petey is good or not? Hard to find someone besides you who claims that. Even his biggest critics aside from you don't want to be associated with any question if he's good or not.

Don't want to take a risk on Petey because he might be garbage? It's safe to assume he isnt and the risk is much greater trading away a 25 y/o who's best years are ahead of him while he's already top 10.

Management wants to wait and see? You are projecting. They pushed hard for a contract. The are on record saying if Petey wants short term, they will accomodate... if he wants long term, they can do that as well. That indicates they want closure on this, not wait and see. It was Peteys camp who went on hold and banked on this season.
- boonerbuck

Don't get me wrong, Petey is a good player, Disputes start if he is worth 12m a season or not

Don't get me wrong, Petey is a good player, Disputes start if he is worth 12m a season or not
- sxqhfeh

More fair to talk % of the cap moving forward as it rises 4m per rather than players who signed back when it was lower, only rising a mil or two leading up to the dead cap years which are over this summer. I know I know... then it wouldnt support the cap narrative as much.

Don't get me wrong, Petey is a good player, Disputes start if he is worth 12m a season or not
- sxqhfeh

He’s worth around 13% of the salary cap, or projected salary cap….that’s how it works. It’s not a number. Leon Draisaitl signed for 8.5 million after a 70 point season, the Oilers hedged their bets, he went on to four 100+ point seasons and the Art Ross, Hart & Ted Lindsay making 8.5 million. I don’t know if it was luck or what but you are best to get ahead of these things, sometimes you win, sometimes you lose. Pettersson is a great player, top 20 in the league, he should be making top money.

We are not sure if Petey is good or not? Hard to find someone besides you who claims that. Even his biggest critics aside from you don't want to be associated with any question if he's good or not.

Don't want to take a risk on Petey because he might be garbage? It's safe to assume he isnt and the risk is much greater trading away a 25 y/o who's best years are ahead of him while he's already top 10.

Management wants to wait and see? You are projecting. They pushed hard for a contract. The are on record saying if Petey wants short term, they will accomodate... if he wants long term, they can do that as well. That indicates they want closure on this, not wait and see. It was Peteys camp who went on hold and banked on this season.
- boonerbuck

And, I wasn't saying Petey might be garbage, I was saying he may not be as good as some people think he is, right now, he can't even compare to JTM, He was playing as 2c not 1c in this team.JT Miller is the great power forward in the NHL and I dare say the poor lad is underpaid. This team would be dirt without the two great American players JT Miller and Quinn Hughes. Can you imagine this team being led by fall down hoping for a fake penalty, turning over the puck, and losing the game Petey?

Petey, he's very good when he doesn't have to carry the heavy load that great man JT Miller carries. lol. Good for Petey to get some points

Speaking of Petey, where did this ridiculous concept that he should win the Selke or Lady Byng come from? We know that Petey will never win the Hart missing the net with 47.4% of his shots the way he does but people, please ask yourselves, when was the last time a guy with a 44.3 FO% won the Selke Trophy? It's ridiculous. Petey is here until he's not, so relax, it's only the circus. If they have to trade him the chances are his replacements won't miss the net nearly as much as this guy does so that would be nice.

Speaking of Petey, where did this ridiculous concept that he should win the Selke or Lady Byng come from? We know that Petey will never win the Hart missing the net with 47.4% of his shots the way he does but people, please ask yourselves, when was the last time a guy with a 44.3 FO% won the Selke Trophy? It's ridiculous. Petey is here until he's not, so relax, it's only the circus. If they have to trade him the chances are his replacements won't miss the net nearly as much as this guy does so that would be nice.
- sxqhfeh

Screw the Hart, Selke, or any other trohpy, the Stanley Cup is the goal, he’s definitely a cog in that wheel.

Weak on the puck and board battles.

I do really like the player and all this debate makes me look like I don't like him when in fact I do. I just don't like 12 mil contract and I am hoping Canucks feel the same.
- VANTEL

You could say 12m 20 times & it will get ignored 25 times. 12m 👎

Like I said earlier, when I posted that proposal I knew exactly who the four I would be debating all afternoon with. Neem must be busy.

You can't say all I have said are rumors. Did Canucks not walk away from Bo last year?

Canucks have yet to date paid 10 mil plus AAV for any Canuck in history. I don't tink they are going to give Petey 12 mil.

I did say they were going to trade Beauvillier this year. I did say they would trade Pearson this year. I did say they would not trade Garland. It is not like I just make things up and shoot them out for fun. I believe I put a lot of thinking into what I predict. I did also predict the Zadarov trade for a second.

I am saying/predicting they won't sign Petey this year at 12 mil.

If I am wrong then so be it.
- VANTEL

I’d be wrong with you. So be it. Won’t change my mind he’s not worth 12m.

I doubt it, he will get pancaked in the playoffs, and the points he gets in the regular season are worth NOTHING because he will not be worth anything after he gets turned into a board decal, and until this team moves Petey to a new address, the Vancouver Canucks will not be a legitimate Stanley Cup contender. , to placate money grubbing ownership and gullible fans who foolishly believe this 165 lb can last more than one week in the playoffs.

Watching the Penguins Panthers game, must be at least the 6th Penguins game this season, that I have been able to watch. That Crosby kid is 1 fantastic player, and extremely smart, solid and no doubt, still a top 5 centre in this league.
- Reubenkincade

Elite on a bad day & idk if I ever saw one. Generational

We are not sure if Petey is good or not? Hard to find someone besides you who claims that. Even his biggest critics aside from you don't want to be associated with any question if he's good or not.

Don't want to take a risk on Petey because he might be garbage? It's safe to assume he isnt and the risk is much greater trading away a 25 y/o who's best years are ahead of him while he's already top 10.

Management wants to wait and see? You are projecting. They pushed hard for a contract. The are on record saying if Petey wants short term, they will accomodate... if he wants long term, they can do that as well. That indicates they want closure on this, not wait and see. It was Peteys camp who went on hold and banked on this season.
- boonerbuck

I wonder how many players currently in the league have ever had back to back 100 point plus seasons, and of them how many make over 11 million a year.

Screw the Hart, Selke, or any other trohpy, the Stanley Cup is the goal, he’s definitely a cog in that wheel.
- Pacificgem

Speaking of Petey, where did this ridiculous concept that he should win the Selke or Lady Byng come from? We know that Petey will never win the Hart missing the net with 47.4% of his shots the way he does but people, please ask yourselves, when was the last time a guy with a 44.3 FO% won the Selke Trophy? It's ridiculous. Petey is here until he's not, so relax, it's only the circus. If they have to trade him the chances are his replacements won't miss the net nearly as much as this guy does so that would be nice.
- sxqhfeh

He has a 48.5% faceoff rating.

I doubt it, he will get pancaked in the playoffs, and the points he gets in the regular season are worth NOTHING because he will not be worth anything after he gets turned into a board decal, and until this team moves Petey to a new address, the Vancouver Canucks will not be a legitimate Stanley Cup contender. , to placate money grubbing ownership and gullible fans who foolishly believe this 165 lb can last more than one week in the playoffs.
- sxqhfeh

He has 18 points in 17 career playoff games.

But it won't happen, they won't remove him, unless he asks too much, Petey is on pace to take a pay CUT if he keeps on the way he has the past month. If he still asks (rumor said 12.5m?) too much they will have no choice to trade him

Don't get me wrong, Petey is a good player, Disputes start if he is worth 12m a season or not
- sxqhfeh

He’s not.

He has 18 points in 17 career playoff games.
- NorthNuck

to where? losing?

More fair to talk % of the cap moving forward as it rises 4m per rather than players who signed back when it was lower, only rising a mil or two leading up to the dead cap years which are over this summer. I know I know... then it wouldnt support the cap narrative as much.
- boonerbuck

What is your %?

And, I wasn't saying Petey might be garbage, I was saying he may not be as good as some people think he is, right now, he can't even compare to JTM, He was playing as 2c not 1c in this team.JT Miller is the great power forward in the NHL and I dare say the poor lad is underpaid. This team would be dirt without the two great American players JT Miller and Quinn Hughes. Can you imagine this team being led by fall down hoping for a fake penalty, turning over the puck, and losing the game Petey?
- sxqhfeh

👍👍

Speaking of Petey, where did this ridiculous concept that he should win the Selke or Lady Byng come from? We know that Petey will never win the Hart missing the net with 47.4% of his shots the way he does but people, please ask yourselves, when was the last time a guy with a 44.3 FO% won the Selke Trophy? It's ridiculous. Petey is here until he's not, so relax, it's only the circus. If they have to trade him the chances are his replacements won't miss the net nearly as much as this guy does so that would be nice.
- sxqhfeh

What is his whiff%?

And, I wasn't saying Petey might be garbage, I was saying he may not be as good as some people think he is, right now, he can't even compare to JTM, He was playing as 2c not 1c in this team.JT Miller is the great power forward in the NHL and I dare say the poor lad is underpaid. This team would be dirt without the two great American players JT Miller and Quinn Hughes. Can you imagine this team being led by fall down hoping for a fake penalty, turning over the puck, and losing the game Petey?
- sxqhfeh

How does he not compare to Miller? Millers better at some things... he has 2 whole points more and Petey finished with more points last season. Miller has better face off numbers but Petey is better defensively. Better possession numbers... better g/a and tk/a numbers. They play basically the same minutes. Petey is a better goal scorer... Petey is clearly a safer more well rounded player. Miller plays a better PF game.

With all their differences, at the end of they day ones not much better than the other. Just different... and only in the present.

One thing Petey has over Miller that is not debatable is he is only entering his prime and going to improve and sustain a higher level for many years. It's going to be Miller in a few short years with the microscope on his salary. Petey will only be in the middle of his prime when Miller's falling asleep watching Matlock.

Even in his rookie year, Petey was good for a month and a half and hung on for the rest of the season to eke out a Calder win. This season they got two good weeks out of him so far. You just can't pay a guy 12m/yr who only plays half of a season