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sxqhfeh
Joined: 10.18.2016

Jan 26 @ 10:24 PM ET
And to me this is it, you don't like Pettersson and make exaggerated statements that make him out as an inferior player.

This is a team, not sure you understand that concept, but this is a team buying into the team concept where every player plays for one another.

- Makita

come on man, I want Canucks to win SC, we have a different view of how to be an SC contender just like you have yours, at the end of the day yours and mine don't count
Nighthawk
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Canuckville, BC
Joined: 01.09.2015

Jan 26 @ 10:26 PM ET
And to me this is it, you don't like Pettersson and make exaggerated statements that make him out as an inferior player.

This is a team, not sure you understand that concept, but this is a team buying into the team concept where every player plays for one another.

- Makita

How much is a team concept contract? Not sure I understand.
Makita
Referee
Vancouver Canucks
Location: #theonlyrealfan, BC
Joined: 02.16.2007

Jan 26 @ 10:27 PM ET
Hughes & Miller drive the PP. Petey hangs out on the 1/2 wall static doesn’t do much. One timer or a whiff or back to Hughes.
- Nighthawk

Good god, now you want to make exaggerated statements, here is one for you, without Pettersson the team is outside the last wildcard. Without Miller the team is still 1st overall.
Nighthawk
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Canuckville, BC
Joined: 01.09.2015

Jan 26 @ 10:28 PM ET
Miller 8m is 10.44% of the cap. Looks like a team concept contract to me. Most points even.
Nighthawk
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Canuckville, BC
Joined: 01.09.2015

Jan 26 @ 10:30 PM ET
Good god, now you want to make exaggerated statements, here is one for you, without Pettersson the team is outside the last wildcard. Without Miller the team is still 1st overall.
- Makita

Ok if you can tell me if Petey gets 12m he’s 50% better & 50% more important in the team concept?

This for a player with a lower PPG as a Canuck.
boonerbuck
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Not Quesnel, BC
Joined: 10.11.2005

Jan 26 @ 10:31 PM ET
Yes, he had a good time on that Lotto line, his inability to drive a line as a 2C was why they created the Lotto line and tried to get him going, and what happened in the last 3-4 games( as Toc said), you forgot?
- sxqhfeh



Before Petey was put on Miller's line, it was also stale. It was Petey driving the lotto line while it was hot. He didnt join a hot line... it exploded when he was added.

You are spinning a lot of alternate facts.

Yes, he cooled off and like Toc said, it happens.. It's a long season. He gave the media poop for blowing his comment out of proportion and feeding people like you a reason to be negative. I posted the link previously.... BACKREAD
Makita
Referee
Vancouver Canucks
Location: #theonlyrealfan, BC
Joined: 02.16.2007

Jan 26 @ 10:31 PM ET
come on man, I want Canucks to win SC, we have a different view of how to be an SC contender just like you have yours, at the end of the day yours and mine don't count
- sxqhfeh

Except you are outright making up bullpoop to malign a guy you don't like and exaggerate bs to prop up the guy you do like.
Makita
Referee
Vancouver Canucks
Location: #theonlyrealfan, BC
Joined: 02.16.2007

Jan 26 @ 10:34 PM ET
How much is a team concept contract? Not sure I understand.
- Nighthawk

Really, it is what the team management group determines what a team concept contract is. Pretty simple Nighthawk
boonerbuck
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Not Quesnel, BC
Joined: 10.11.2005

Jan 26 @ 10:34 PM ET
But but but it was his wingers dragging him down. Pay the man 12m+
- Nighthawk


Your day started off with you trying to start a fight with me. Then you left and all day we had a civil discussion about this topic. No one was trolling or firing shots. Then you come back in the evening and start trolling and firing shots.

I gave you two days to start fresh without the poop slinging and both days you opened up firing shots. You have a lot of nerve hiding behind your myth that you are only trying to have a mature discussion.


Nighthawk
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Canuckville, BC
Joined: 01.09.2015

Jan 26 @ 10:37 PM ET
come on man, I want Canucks to win SC, we have a different view of how to be an SC contender just like you have yours, at the end of the day yours and mine don't count
- sxqhfeh

I’m a diehard & want nothing more than a cup. I’m not pumping Petey’s tires like the fanboys defending him. All I’ve ever meant was 12m hasn’t been earned & not paying for potential. Nope no way. There is not one single example of pay forward that worked & jump on that boat is dumb dumb dumb.
boonerbuck
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Not Quesnel, BC
Joined: 10.11.2005

Jan 26 @ 10:38 PM ET
Good god, now you want to make exaggerated statements, here is one for you, without Pettersson the team is outside the last wildcard. Without Miller the team is still 1st overall.
- Makita


Notice this crap wasnt going on during a 4 or 5 hour discussion on the same topic earlier.
Nighthawk
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Canuckville, BC
Joined: 01.09.2015

Jan 26 @ 10:43 PM ET
Really, it is what the team management group determines what a team concept contract is. Pretty simple Nighthawk
- Makita

Pretty simple 50% or more than the highest paid Canuck doesn’t fall into team concept contract.
boonerbuck
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Not Quesnel, BC
Joined: 10.11.2005

Jan 26 @ 10:44 PM ET
Miller 8m is 10.44% of the cap. Looks like a team concept contract to me. Most points even.
- Nighthawk


Of course it's a good contract right now. Keep in mind he signed that going on 3 years ago and what will look like later since we keep circling back to the teams future and contracts.
Nighthawk
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Canuckville, BC
Joined: 01.09.2015

Jan 26 @ 10:48 PM ET
Lurking was a blast. Watched other ppl say what ppl don’t like hearing. Quite the divided opinions. Not 1 person said trade him out of hand. The highschool Pouty crud was put aside.

This is Hughes team & where he goes others follow.
Makita
Referee
Vancouver Canucks
Location: #theonlyrealfan, BC
Joined: 02.16.2007

Jan 26 @ 10:49 PM ET
Notice this crap wasnt going on during a 4 or 5 hour discussion on the same topic earlier.

- boonerbuck

I actually enjoyed the conversation from this afternoon, but making up bs to malign a player has always bugged me. So the post you quoted was me just making up bs like the other 2 guys have been doing.

I believe in the team, the coaches, players, management and I certainly have no control over contracts or contract values and trust management to make decisions best for the team...if that means 12 for Petey, 7-8 for Hronek, 3 for Joshua, trade Petey, Hronek, Joshua then so be it.
sxqhfeh
Joined: 10.18.2016

Jan 26 @ 10:53 PM ET
And to me this is it, you don't like Pettersson and make exaggerated statements that make him out as an inferior player.

This is a team, not sure you understand that concept, but this is a team buying into the team concept where every player plays for one another.

- Makita

you can call me a "hater" if you want, but I am NOT, I like him as a player, Toc said he had a few good moves, and I like his moves, I bought my two sons his jersey, I just don't like his next contract, it will lead to an unproductive salary structure this team will go nowhere, and handing to the chances to EMD and Toronto to win the SC in next 5 yrs and it is unacceptable
golfingsince
Location: This message is Marwood approved!
Joined: 11.30.2011

Jan 26 @ 10:57 PM ET


We're so used to having poopty squads we're trying to "fix" this one by getting rid of one of our top players.
boonerbuck
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Not Quesnel, BC
Joined: 10.11.2005

Jan 26 @ 10:59 PM ET
I actually enjoyed the conversation from this afternoon, but making up bs to malign a player has always bugged me. So the post you quoted was me just making up bs like the other 2 guys have been doing.

I believe in the team, the coaches, players, management and I certainly have no control over contracts or contract values and trust management to make decisions best for the team...if that means 12 for Petey, 7-8 for Hronek, 3 for Joshua, trade Petey, Hronek, Joshua then so be it.

- Makita


I get it and agree.
Nighthawk
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Canuckville, BC
Joined: 01.09.2015

Jan 26 @ 11:07 PM ET
you can call me a "hater" if you want, but I am NOT, I like him as a player, Toc said he had a few good moves, and I like his moves, I bought my two sons his jersey, I just don't like his next contract, it will lead to an unproductive salary structure this team will go nowhere, and handing to the chances to EMD and Toronto to win the SC in next 5 yrs and it is unacceptable
- sxqhfeh

I asked for & got a Petey jersey for Xmas of 2021. If he gets a Leafs type contract you can have it. If he gets traded cuz of his ask you can have it. No player screwing the cap balance is worth a crap to me. Idgaf about their wallet if money comes before a cup & that is exactly what it is if over 12%. Cap increase projected at 5% or 87.675m. 12% is 10.5m
boonerbuck
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Not Quesnel, BC
Joined: 10.11.2005

Jan 26 @ 11:09 PM ET
We're so used to having poopty squads we're trying to "fix" this one by getting rid of one of our top players.
- golfingsince


Crazy isnt it. Team is doing so well... the young core is for real. Time to bust it up.
Nighthawk
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Canuckville, BC
Joined: 01.09.2015

Jan 26 @ 11:10 PM ET
We're so used to having poopty squads we're trying to "fix" this one by getting rid of one of our top players.
- golfingsince

One of our top players not our top player. So pay him how much over the highest contract that is a team concept contract. Given he is younger & that does carry weight but how much weight?
Makita
Referee
Vancouver Canucks
Location: #theonlyrealfan, BC
Joined: 02.16.2007

Jan 26 @ 11:10 PM ET
you can call me a "hater" if you want, but I am NOT, I like him as a player, Toc said he had a few good moves, and I like his moves, I bought my two sons his jersey, I just don't like his next contract, it will lead to an unproductive salary structure this team will go nowhere, and handing to the chances to EMD and Toronto to win the SC in next 5 yrs and it is unacceptable
- sxqhfeh

I can only make that assumption based on the words you post, most hardcore fans hope Pettersson doesn't request/demand outrageous sums of money, and if he does I'm with Vantel and think Allvin will move him. The overall health and future of the club is the primary concern, not one individual.
sxqhfeh
Joined: 10.18.2016

Jan 26 @ 11:11 PM ET
I actually enjoyed the conversation from this afternoon, but making up bs to malign a player has always bugged me. So the post you quoted was me just making up bs like the other 2 guys have been doing.

I believe in the team, the coaches, players, management and I certainly have no control over contracts or contract values and trust management to make decisions best for the team...if that means 12 for Petey, 7-8 for Hronek, 3 for Joshua, trade Petey, Hronek, Joshua then so be it.

- Makita

Laughable Fanboys are screaming to pay Petey $12m and Hronek $8m, that would surely sink this team for the next 10 years if those deals were offered to these two
Nighthawk
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Canuckville, BC
Joined: 01.09.2015

Jan 26 @ 11:13 PM ET
Crazy isnt it. Team is doing so well... the young core is for real. Time to bust it up.

- boonerbuck

If you wanna bust it up you’re entitled to your opinion. I’ll pull for a team concept contract.
Reubenkincade
Location: BC
Joined: 11.18.2016

Jan 26 @ 11:15 PM ET
In my opinion you are wrong, Pettersson knows exactly who he is and what talent he has. Tocchet knows who he is and what his talent is, Alvin knows who he is and what his talent is.

There are people that have been harping on players for years, Crosby (Cindy), Sedins (sisters), McDavid (McCrybaby, Mcwienerhead)

I agree with both sides of the conversation today, if Pettersson next contract demand will be detrimental to signing other players he will be traded. If he and Allvin work out a contract extension great. But everyone knows what Pettersson talent is. Even Reuby and his Pouty schtick.

- Makita


I have been trying to stay out of the Pouty discussion, but no doubt, he's got some talent.
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