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manvanfan
Vancouver Canucks
Location: MB
Joined: 01.21.2012

Jan 30 @ 11:11 AM ET
Maybe I’m overvaluing aggression from a d-man because it’s been so long since this team has had any truculence. I thought it was a good trade for something needed and it would be great for it to work out.
- bloatedmosquito

Canucks had Luke Schenn and Kyle Burroughs. I'd say for the price the Canucks paid, it has worked out for them. At 4M plus, I don't know if there is a long term fit.
manvanfan
Vancouver Canucks
Location: MB
Joined: 01.21.2012

Jan 30 @ 11:12 AM ET
I think they need more of an offensive type centerman if they're going to acquire someone. I'd see if Ottawa would trade Josh Norris and retain some of his salary, they need a shakeup and he's a young offensive type center under long term contract. Maybe add in Tarasenko too, he can play wing.
- Pacificgem

Where are the Canucks going to fit in 7.9M for the next 6 seasons?
Pacificgem
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Swedish4Ever, BC
Joined: 07.01.2007

Jan 30 @ 11:15 AM ET
Where are the Canucks going to fit in 7.9M for the next 6 seasons?
- manvanfan

It appears you missed an important part of what I wrote.

"I'd see if Ottawa would trade Josh Norris and retain some of his salary"
manvanfan
Vancouver Canucks
Location: MB
Joined: 01.21.2012

Jan 30 @ 11:24 AM ET
It appears you missed an important part of what I wrote.

"I'd see if Ottawa would trade Josh Norris and retain some of his salary"

- Pacificgem

If the Canucks were to ask for 1.5M retained, sign all more important players to reasonable raises. Play with Juulsen and Friedman full time on the right side. Trade Kuzmenko and start the season with a 21 man roster. That could work.

That's also without signing Cole or Zadorov. Plus having at least 4 players currently on Abbotsford in the line up.
Pacificgem
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Swedish4Ever, BC
Joined: 07.01.2007

Jan 30 @ 11:37 AM ET
If the Canucks were to ask for 1.5M retained, sign all more important players to reasonable raises. Play with Juulsen and Friedman full time on the right side. Trade Kuzmenko and start the season with a 21 man roster. That could work.

That's also without signing Cole or Zadorov. Plus having at least 4 players currently on Abbotsford in the line up.

- manvanfan

You just have to ship Kuzy to Chicago and you've got 5.5 million in cap space for a young center, which is much more pressing need than a scoring winger. Even with EP40 at 11.5 million and Hronek at say 6-7 million you'd have plenty of space for a young center at 6.5 million for next year.
manvanfan
Vancouver Canucks
Location: MB
Joined: 01.21.2012

Jan 30 @ 11:48 AM ET
You just have to ship Kuzy to Chicago and you've got 5.5 million in cap space for a young center, which is much more pressing need than a scoring winger. Even with EP40 at 11.5 million and Hronek at say 6-7 million you'd have plenty of space for a young center at 6.5 million for next year.
- Pacificgem

How long do you want to think about your stupidity before you retract your statement here?
Pacificgem
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Swedish4Ever, BC
Joined: 07.01.2007

Jan 30 @ 11:58 AM ET
How long do you want to think about your stupidity before you retract your statement here?
- manvanfan

It's being reported all over X that Chicago is interested in Kuzy and they have the cap space, no it's not that simplistic but I'm just spit-ballin...you self-righteous twat.
manvanfan
Vancouver Canucks
Location: MB
Joined: 01.21.2012

Jan 30 @ 12:05 PM ET
It's being reported all over X that Chicago is interested in Kuzy and they have the cap space, no it's not that simplistic but I'm just spit-ballin...you self-righteous twat.
- Pacificgem

22 $87,500,000 $83,296,667 $4,203,333 (doesn't include 2.4) for OEL.

Hronek, Filip $7,000,000
Pettersson, Elias $11,500,000

Blueger, Teddy $1,900,000
Joshua, Dakota $1,000,000
Lafferty, Sam $1,200,000
Cole, Ian $3,000,000
DeSmith, Casey $1,800,000
Friedman, Mark $800,000

Here's a sample mock of what you are thinking trading for Norris(1.5M retained) and trading away Kuzmenko. I gave almost no raise, pretty well just re-signed everyone as is.

Pettersson Miller Boeser
Mikheyev Norris Lafferty
Joshua Blueger Garland
Hoglander Suter Aman
PDG

Hughes Hronek
Soucy Juulsen
Cole Friedman
Wolanin

Demko
DeSmith

1.8M in cap space for one more body.
Pacificgem
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Swedish4Ever, BC
Joined: 07.01.2007

Jan 30 @ 12:21 PM ET
22 $87,500,000 $83,296,667 $4,203,333 (doesn't include 2.4) for OEL.

Hronek, Filip $7,000,000
Pettersson, Elias $11,500,000

Blueger, Teddy $1,900,000
Joshua, Dakota $1,000,000
Lafferty, Sam $1,200,000
Cole, Ian $3,000,000
DeSmith, Casey $1,800,000
Friedman, Mark $800,000

Here's a sample mock of what you are thinking trading for Norris(1.5M retained) and trading away Kuzmenko. I gave almost no raise, pretty well just re-signed everyone as is.

Pettersson Miller Boeser
Mikheyev Norris Lafferty
Joshua Blueger Garland
Hoglander Suter Aman
PDG

Hughes Hronek
Soucy Juulsen
Cole Friedman
Wolanin

Demko
DeSmith

1.8M in cap space for one more body.

- manvanfan

Clearly you’d have to let a few guys walk and utilize entry level contracts, and or trade that midget Garland, kinda goes without saying.
manvanfan
Vancouver Canucks
Location: MB
Joined: 01.21.2012

Jan 30 @ 12:25 PM ET
Clearly you’d have to let a few guys walk and utilize entry level contracts, and or trade that midget Garland, kinda goes without saying.
- Pacificgem

Did Bo Horvat make the team better or did having a better defence and secondary scoring make it better?

ELC are great if they produce.
Nighthawk
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Canuckville, BC
Joined: 01.09.2015

Jan 30 @ 12:43 PM ET
I predict hawks will get another cup before nucks get one. You guys have no clue what it takes to win a cup.
- LFS

Put money on it don’t talk about it.
manvanfan
Vancouver Canucks
Location: MB
Joined: 01.21.2012

Jan 30 @ 12:49 PM ET
Put money on it don’t talk about it.
- Nighthawk

I'm on a Nighty role. (never a good thing)

Pettersson Miller Boeser
Mikheyev Frost Hoglander
Joshua Blueger Garland
Katochuk Suter Aman
Karlsson

Hughes Hronek
Soucy Pesce
Cole Juulsen
McWard

Demko
Tolopilo

Hronek, Filip $7,000,000
Pettersson, Elias $11,500,000
McWard, Cole $775,000
Karlsson, Linus $900,000
Tolopilo, Nikita $800,000
Katchouk, Boris $800,000
Blueger, Teddy $2,200,000
Joshua, Dakota $1,600,000
Cole, Ian $3,000,000
Pesce, Brett $7,000,000
Nighthawk
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Canuckville, BC
Joined: 01.09.2015

Jan 30 @ 12:57 PM ET
I think they need more of an offensive type centerman if they're going to acquire someone. I'd see if Ottawa would trade Josh Norris and retain some of his salary, they need a shakeup and he's a young offensive type center under long term contract. Maybe add in Tarasenko too, he can play wing.
- Pacificgem

Injury prone at that money. Pinto
Nighthawk
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Canuckville, BC
Joined: 01.09.2015

Jan 30 @ 1:07 PM ET
I'm on a Nighty role. (never a good thing)

Pettersson Miller Boeser
Mikheyev Frost Hoglander
Joshua Blueger Garland
Katochuk Suter Aman
Karlsson

Hughes Hronek
Soucy Pesce
Cole Juulsen
McWard

Demko
Tolopilo

Hronek, Filip $7,000,000
Pettersson, Elias $11,500,000
McWard, Cole $775,000
Karlsson, Linus $900,000
Tolopilo, Nikita $800,000
Katchouk, Boris $800,000
Blueger, Teddy $2,200,000
Joshua, Dakota $1,600,000
Cole, Ian $3,000,000
Pesce, Brett $7,000,000

- manvanfan

lol

CF is a great tool to put cap into perspective & the difficulty doing it.
manvanfan
Vancouver Canucks
Location: MB
Joined: 01.21.2012

Jan 30 @ 1:28 PM ET
lol

CF is a great tool to put cap into perspective & the difficulty doing it.

- Nighthawk

Yeah, so hard to predict what players will get these days. All just a dream.

D looks nice though replacing Pesce with Myers.
LFS
Chicago Blackhawks
Joined: 02.08.2021

Jan 30 @ 1:30 PM ET
Put money on it don’t talk about it.
- Nighthawk

We’ll see, mouth.
Makita
Referee
Vancouver Canucks
Location: #theonlyrealfan, BC
Joined: 02.16.2007

Jan 30 @ 1:54 PM ET
We’ll see, mouth.
- LFS

Just to be a nice guy, this is some advice, you are welcome in the Canucks blog to discuss hockey, but being a disrespectful wienerhead will get you a lengthy timeout.

This is like #3 post of yours that you have tried to insult and bait, no more, thanks.
Nighthawk
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Canuckville, BC
Joined: 01.09.2015

Jan 30 @ 2:08 PM ET
We’ll see, mouth.
- LFS

Lol
Bettmanhatesus
Joined: 08.10.2016

Jan 30 @ 2:33 PM ET
Just to be a nice guy, this is some advice, you are welcome in the Canucks blog to discuss hockey, but being a disrespectful wienerhead will get you a lengthy timeout.

This is like #3 post of yours that you have tried to insult and bait, no more, thanks.

- Makita

Being in first place will attract trolls.
manvanfan
Vancouver Canucks
Location: MB
Joined: 01.21.2012

Jan 30 @ 2:37 PM ET
Seravalli on the skills competition:

As someone referred it to me, they said it's 11 of the best players in the world and JT Miller.

(DFO pod)

Let's hope he just uses the disrespect to hoist the Stanley cup above his head in a real nice F U.

(not saying he is a top 12 player but just the attitude towards him)
LordHumungous
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Greetings from the Humungous. Ayatollah of rock and rolla!
Joined: 08.15.2014

Jan 30 @ 3:18 PM ET
I wouldn't be so sure about that. If they get the first overall pick again. NHL made the rules very good for Chicago to get Bedard and Celebrini. There's your Kane and Toews. Nolan Allen or Ethan Del Mastro could turn into Seabrook. Korchinski and Rinzel big pucking moving D.

I don't think they make players like Hossa anymore.

- manvanfan

lol it's much more than 4-5 players but I get what you are saying. If they draft and develop well they could be good for many years but man if you look at the rosters for those hawks Cup teams very deep. Don't think they will ever get to that point again even as good as Bedard and a few other draft picks may be. Different eras.
DariusKnight
Vancouver Canucks
Location: "The Alien has landed in Vancouver!"
Joined: 03.09.2006

Jan 30 @ 3:27 PM ET
lol it's much more than 4-5 players but I get what you are saying. If they draft and develop well they could be good for many years but man if you look at the rosters for those hawks Cup teams very deep. Don't think they will ever get to that point again even as good as Bedard and a few other draft picks may be. Different eras.
- LordHumungous


The West back then was MUCH more open than it was nowadays, plus the Eastern Conference tended to have the better teams and tended to win the Cup because the West would beat themselves up to get to the Finals whereas the East had a much easier path.
Nighthawk
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Canuckville, BC
Joined: 01.09.2015

Jan 30 @ 3:34 PM ET
Yeah, so hard to predict what players will get these days. All just a dream.

D looks nice though replacing Pesce with Myers.

- manvanfan

One of my ideas now or as a UFA. Don’t see Canes as a seller. Probably still hunting for scoring.
Load Management
Season Ticket Holder
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Billings Spit, BC
Joined: 09.22.2019

Jan 30 @ 3:48 PM ET
I predict hawks will get another cup before nucks get one. You guys have no clue what it takes to win a cup.
- LFS


Yeah, we don't molest our underachievers in film sessions. Proud franchise you've got there.
Quinn's Quest
Vancouver Canucks
Joined: 08.08.2022

Jan 30 @ 4:17 PM ET
There is a rumor I heard from some Euro pro scouts. Vegas is going to keep their injured on LTIR and with the cap space add Jake G and Lindholm to sucker punch the Canucks. They will give away all their remaining future for a repeat.
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