Taylor Swift controls much more than you can even imagine.
- Atomic Wedgie

This one is for you Wedgie

I have absolutely zero clue who Matt Roy is.

I'm not allowed to stay up to watch Kings games.

But when evaluating defencemen I've never heard of, I find the simplest, most accurate tool is to look at time on ice stats, because it reflects what the coach thinks of the guy's play - and I'm assuming the coach knows more than anyone.

Roy is:

3rd on the ice in TOI/GP for Kings D - and 2-4 are grouped within 40 seconds.

Tied for 3rd in EV TOI/GP.

He gets almost no PP time (looks like Doughty stays out for the full two minutes).

1st in PK TOI/GP.

Sure looks like 2nd pairing to me - on a team currently in a playoff spot.
- Atomic Wedgie

F-ing BAM!

Wedgie comes in dropping STAT bombs. Who does he think he is, MonkeyPunk?

Roy sounds exactly like the kind of guy Briesbois will trade 14 draft picks for at this year's deadline.

Taylor Swift controls much more than you can even imagine.
- Atomic Wedgie

Hot. So damn hot.

This one is for you Wedgie



- winsix

F-ing love Dikk Dale.

True story, circa 1998-1999.

I had just gotten my feet wet with the newfangled internets using a WebTV (remember those?).

Pulp Fiction was fresh in my mind and I had been binge-listening to the soundtrack.

I decided to look up Dikk Dale and send him a gushy lame fan email.

He answered back within a day or two. Coolest damn thing ever at the time. I wish I had thought to print it out and save it or something.

Edit : damn HB censor keeps changing his name to Richard.

I have absolutely zero clue who Matt Roy is.

I'm not allowed to stay up to watch Kings games.

But when evaluating defencemen I've never heard of, I find the simplest, most accurate tool is to look at time on ice stats, because it reflects what the coach thinks of the guy's play - and I'm assuming the coach knows more than anyone.

Roy is:

3rd on the ice in TOI/GP for Kings D - and 2-4 are grouped within 40 seconds.

Tied for 3rd in EV TOI/GP.

He gets almost no PP time (looks like Doughty stays out for the full two minutes).

1st in PK TOI/GP.

Sure looks like 2nd pairing to me - on a team currently in a playoff spot.
- Atomic Wedgie

yeah, looks like a great fit for the Leafs.

No doubt Tre will be all over him if he hits the trade market or the FA market.

6'2" as well.

Ffs, Columbus is most likely not trading jenner.
Leafs will need to keep Robertson as theyll need cheap forwards next season to fill holes.
- Fakepartofme

Meh on Robertson, he’s a skate and shoot style winger who doesn’t net crash which is what the leafs need to replace Bertuzzi next year. Unless Nylander or Marner are moved Robertson is nothing more than a defensively liable third liner for the leafs. Is he worth something decent? Yeah. Is he useful for the leafs? No.

F-ing BAM!

Wedgie comes in dropping STAT bombs. Who does he think he is, MonkeyPunk?

Roy sounds exactly like the kind of guy Briesbois will trade 14 draft picks for at this year's deadline.
- GalacticStone

BOTTOM PAIRNG D.


Kings tied up a lot of money into PLD and friends.

Clarke probably takes the 2nd pairing RHD spot next year...because they likely do not sign him for the 5Mish price tag he will command.

If Roy is traded it is for assets that can help them in goal.

Sammy and a pick for Roy

Trade for MAF

*runs*

BOTTOM PAIRNG D.


Kings tied up a lot of money into PLD and friends.

Clarke probably takes the 2nd pairing RHD spot next year...because they likely do not sign him for the 5Mish price tag he will command.

If Roy is traded it is for assets that can help them in goal.
- Santo_44

Roy? He is a third pairing in LA. Behind Doughty and Clarke on the right side.

That being said it could be a situation like Robertson in Toronto, there’s simply no job available in a higher up position due to others who are better in the same role for that particular team.

Roy? He is a third pairing in LA. Behind Doughty and Clarke on the right side.

That being said it could be a situation like Robertson in Toronto, there’s simply no job available in a higher up position due to others who are better in the same role for that particular team.
- Dozzer

He is 3rd in ice time according to Wedgie

1st for PK ice time and 3rd for even strength

he is not a 3RD pairing D


I am convinced his boring ass generic name is causing some of you to think he is a plug

He is a legit 2nd pairing D and has been one the last few years

You are using line combos to try and prove a point? Huh?

That has nothing to do with level of competition.

You would disagree with me if I said the sky was blue.

Again, if you think Roy is a bottom pairing D then you are just plain stupid.
- Santo_44

Too bad you did not stay in school long enough to understand science.

You and I perceive the sky as being blue because we don't see individual wavelengths. The retinas of our eyes have three types of color sensitive cells known as cones.The Earth's skies are actually violet, we just see them as blue. Light with "blue" wavelengths stimulate blue cones the most, but they also stimulate red and green just a little bit. I would love to teach you about Rayleigh scattering, but it would be equivalent to attempting to teach my border collie how to read a book.

Meh on Robertson, he’s a skate and shoot style winger who doesn’t net crash which is what the leafs need to replace Bertuzzi next year. Unless Nylander or Marner are moved Robertson is nothing more than a defensively liable third liner for the leafs. Is he worth something decent? Yeah. Is he useful for the leafs? No.
- Dozzer

Meh, not worth much in a trade, but a cheap body to fill a hole in the line up. Which the leafs will need next season.
If he could be added to boost a trade for the leafs to acquire an upgrade then do it.
But the leafs will need cheap players who can score.
And most cheap forwards usually arent the best defensively.

Too bad you did not stay in school long enough to understand science.

You and I perceive the sky as being blue because we don't see individual wavelengths. The retinas of our eyes have three types of color sensitive cells known as cones.The Earth's skies are actually violet, we just see them as blue. Light with "blue" wavelengths stimulate blue cones the most, but they also stimulate red and green just a little bit. I would love to teach you about Rayleigh scattering, but it would be equivalent to attempting to teach my border collie how to read a book.
- winsix

I can't imagine what its like to be this insecure and angry all the time.

Who hurt you?

He is 3rd in ice time according to Wedgie

1st for PK ice time and 3rd for even strength

he is not a 3RD pairing D


I am convinced his boring ass generic name is causing some of you to think he is a plug

He is a legit 2nd pairing D and has been one the last few years
- Santo_44

And until you read the rumour and that tweet you had never heard of him or ever brought him up.

He seems decent, but not for a 1st a prospect
Imo.

And until you read the rumour and that tweet you had never heard of him or ever brought him up.

He seems decent, but not for a 1st a prospect
Imo.
- Fakepartofme

That is the 2nd time you have said this, who are you trying to convince? Me or you?

He is 3rd in ice time according to Wedgie

1st for PK ice time and 3rd for even strength

he is not a 3RD pairing D


I am convinced his boring ass generic name is causing some of you to think he is a plug

He is a legit 2nd pairing D and has been one the last few years
- Santo_44

Anderson Doughty
Gavrikov Clarke
Englund Roy

That’s what Daily Faceoff is saying but you’re right, they’ve got him and Clarke flipped for some reason when you look at the actual game stats. He only got back into action in late January so I think that site is a little behind on that. CBS Sports has him as a long time 2nd pairing guy as well.

F-ing love Dikk Dale.

True story, circa 1998-1999.

I had just gotten my feet wet with the newfangled internets using a WebTV (remember those?).

Pulp Fiction was fresh in my mind and I had been binge-listening to the soundtrack.

I decided to look up Dikk Dale and send him a gushy lame fan email.

He answered back within a day or two. Coolest damn thing ever at the time. I wish I had thought to print it out and save it or something.

Edit : damn HB censor keeps changing his name to Richard.
- GalacticStone

Was one of the great all time surf music guitarists. The Ventures were sort of in that category. Got to see him play live a few times.

Meh, not worth much in a trade, but a cheap body to fill a hole in the line up. Which the leafs will need next season.
If he could be added to boost a trade for the leafs to acquire an upgrade then do it.
But the leafs will need cheap players who can score.
And most cheap forwards usually arent the best defensively.
- Fakepartofme

Which line would you put him on? 3 or 4? That’s all they have available for a winger like him with his game style.

BOTTOM PAIRNG D.


Kings tied up a lot of money into PLD and friends.

Clarke probably takes the 2nd pairing RHD spot next year...because they likely do not sign him for the 5Mish price tag he will command.

If Roy is traded it is for assets that can help them in goal.

Sammy and a pick for Roy

Trade for MAF

*runs*
- Santo_44

Roy will be a ufa. I would not send a 1st for him. A 3rd rnd pick + Abruzzese at most for him.
That just me.
I think they would swap MAF for Samsonov. NO?

Roy will be a ufa. I would not send a 1st for him. A 3rd rnd pick + Abruzzese at most for him.
That just me.
I think they would swap MAF for Samsonov. NO?
- dmnted

Roy costs $3.15 mill and unless the leafs offer the first the kings won’t consider keeping $1.575 million of his contract and taking on what the leafs would want to give up to be able to afford $1.575 million themselves.

I wonder if Edmonton would do a Broberg for Robertson trade

Anderson Doughty
Gavrikov Clarke
Englund Roy

That’s what Daily Faceoff is saying but you’re right, they’ve got him and Clarke flipped for some reason when you look at the actual game stats. He only got back into action in late January so I think that site is a little behind on that. CBS Sports has him as a long time 2nd pairing guy as well.
- Dozzer

Unless Clarke is playing with Gavrikov now, which would be putting Roy on the 3rd pairing..

I live out west in Calgary, Los Angeles is in the division, I've seen Roy play live more than the vast majority of leaf fans.

Roy would be a good secondary add, he is reliable in the defensive zone, he is worse with the puck than McCabe, he will play top 4 on a defence with minimal offense, his biggest value is as a 5th Dman, that plays up on matchups and PK.

Not worth a 1st, but is worth getting.

Unless Clarke is playing with Gavrikov now, which would be putting Roy on the 3rd pairing..

I live out west in Calgary, Los Angeles is in the division, I've seen Roy play live more than the vast majority of leaf fans.

Roy would be a good secondary add, he is reliable in the defensive zone, he is worse with the puck than McCabe, he will play top 4 on a defence with minimal offense, his biggest value is as a 5th Dman, that plays up on matchups and PK.

Not worth a 1st, but is worth getting.
- aries1976

Roy costs $3.15 mill and unless the leafs offer the first the kings won’t consider keeping $1.575 million of his contract and taking on what the leafs would want to give up to be able to afford $1.575 million themselves.
- Dozzer

Bruce... with under 30games to go, he probably has 1.3m left on his deal. Not 3.15

If kings eat 50% it's closer to 650k now

Let’s sell the farm for Radmus !

Unless Clarke is playing with Gavrikov now, which would be putting Roy on the 3rd pairing..

I live out west in Calgary, Los Angeles is in the division, I've seen Roy play live more than the vast majority of leaf fans.

Roy would be a good secondary add, he is reliable in the defensive zone, he is worse with the puck than McCabe, he will play top 4 on a defence with minimal offense, his biggest value is as a 5th Dman, that plays up on matchups and PK.

Not worth a 1st, but is worth getting.
- aries1976

What a player is worth is beyond talent. The leafs would also need cap space so they’d have to pay to get that as well.

I also reviewed his numbers. He’s getting the second pairing ice time 100%. It’s Englund and Clarke only getting 10-13 mins of ice time. Those two are the bottom pairing.