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Dozzer
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Feb 18 @ 2:02 PM ET
Bruce... with under 30games to go, he probably has 1.3m left on his deal. Not 3.15

If kings eat 50% it's closer to 650k now

- aries1976


Exactly, and the leafs have used all of their space all damn year. Which means they only have about $30 mill available to spend for the rest of it. Including their current players. It’s not just the players cost that goes downwards.
winsix
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Feb 18 @ 2:03 PM ET
I wonder if Edmonton would do a Broberg for Robertson trade
- dmnted


This is one worth considering. The one question I would have is why an 8th overall pick has not cracked that particular lineup in the four years since he was drafted.
aries1976
Toronto Maple Leafs
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Feb 18 @ 2:05 PM ET
This is one worth considering. The one question I would have is why an 8th overall pick has not cracked that particular lineup in the four years since he was drafted.
- winsix


If your not good enough to make the oilers 3rd pairing defence, you may not be NHL quality
winsix
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Feb 18 @ 2:14 PM ET
If your not good enough to make the oilers 3rd pairing defence, you may not be NHL quality
- aries1976


It's my concern as well. As Dozzer has pointed out, Roberston is not really more than a third liner on the Leafs with scoring touch but is weak defensively. Broberg is a 22 year old, 6'4" dman with some upside.
Dozzer
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Feb 18 @ 2:21 PM ET
It's my concern as well. As Dozzer has pointed out, Roberston is not really more than a third liner on the Leafs with scoring touch but is weak defensively. Broberg is a 22 year old, 6'4" dman with some upside.
- winsix


This. McMann has proven he’s worth keeping and he’s their best third liner currently. And once Jarnkrokn is back he’ll be taking Robertson’s wing making Robertson, at best, a 4th liner. The leafs can sign a a guy for the same bloody price in the off-season who is a proper 4th liner because Robertson is not. Keeping him at this point just seems foolish unless Marner or Nylander get hurt bad enough to end their season.
aries1976
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Feb 18 @ 2:28 PM ET
This. McMann has proven he’s worth keeping and he’s their best third liner currently. And once Jarnkrokn is back he’ll be taking Robertson’s wing making Robertson, at best, a 4th liner. The leafs can sign a a guy for the same bloody price in the off-season who is a proper 4th liner because Robertson is not. Keeping him at this point just seems foolish unless Marner or Nylander get hurt bad enough to end their season.
- Dozzer


My gut feeling is the leafs trade their first rounder ONLY for a legit 3rd line C, or a top 4 D with at least average offensive upside....

Roy for either later picks, or prospects and/or a roster player
Dozzer
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Feb 18 @ 2:32 PM ET
My gut feeling is the leafs trade their first rounder ONLY for a legit 3rd line C, or a top 4 D with at least average offensive upside....

Roy for either later picks, or prospects and/or a roster player

- aries1976


Offensive upside? Why? It’s what they don’t need. They need a defensive upgrade back there.

That being said maybe they should just tell Rielly that since he’s the $7.5 mill all star he can play the (frank)ing right side because Brodie has looked much better on the left meaning his days as a either side D man might be done.
underhill14
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Feb 18 @ 2:34 PM ET
https://twitter.com/AFPAnalytics/status/1758917156350148659/photo/1


I have seen him play.

He has been at the top of the league the last few years defensively.


And do the Leafs need a top 4 right hand D that is good defensively? you tell me.

And yeah it is a rumour site, I will continue to talk about rumours. If you don't like it fake then simply don't (frank)ing read or reply. It isn't hard.

- Santo_44


I finally found myself on your side Santo.

It's exactly these types of players Leafs should be looking at...under the radar that don't usually get mentioned in the normal rumor mill.

I look at the UFAs and the names the get thrown around and can't really find any type of D trade that the Leafs could do.

This however, seems like the right kinda player, from a different conference, on a team the Leafs have traded with in the past, good age, good stats.....a lot of boxes seem to check.

And since the trades that happen usually come out of left field and never the ones we repeatedly here, you might be on to something.

Roy on D.

Jenner at C.

Let's gooo!!! (I love rumors BTW)
drexel
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Feb 18 @ 2:43 PM ET
Taylor Swift controls much more than you can even imagine.
- Atomic Wedgie

yet shes controlled by George Soros
aries1976
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Feb 18 @ 2:43 PM ET
Offensive upside? Why? It’s what they don’t need. They need a defensive upgrade back there.

That being said maybe they should just tell Rielly that since he’s the $7.5 mill all star he can play the (frank)ing right side because Brodie has looked much better on the left meaning his days as a either side D man might be done.

- Dozzer


You want defenceman that can pass the puck effectively in the top 4.... its why I put him as a number 5, he excels at everything else....

Last thing you want is a dman playing 20 minutes a night, and you're saying "oh f**k" everytime he has the puck... think McCabe in the playoffs last year, when he started to try to do too much.
LordHumungous
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Feb 18 @ 2:46 PM ET
Wow.

Matthews.
underhill14
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Feb 18 @ 2:47 PM ET
Offensive upside? Why? It’s what they don’t need. They need a defensive upgrade back there.

That being said maybe they should just tell Rielly that since he’s the $7.5 mill all star he can play the (frank)ing right side because Brodie has looked much better on the left meaning his days as a either side D man might be done.

- Dozzer

This.

If Roy is a better Beniot, then I'm in.

Use Robertson + for Roy.

Dump Brodie for Cap relief.

Use the 1st and Minten a few other assets for Jenner...CBJ is flush with young C's....and another middle RHD like Peeke...then the Leafs are in business.

Solid as (frank) forward group:

Knies, Matthews, Marner
Tavares, Jenner, Nylander
Bert, Domi, Jarnkrok
McMann, Kampf, Gregor
Reaves

Nice balance and solid as (frank) D corp:

Rielly, Roy
McCabe, Beniot
Gio, Peeke

Then figure out the goalie situation cuz something has to give between Woll, Jones, Murray and Sammy.
underhill14
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Feb 18 @ 2:50 PM ET
You want defenceman that can pass the puck effectively in the top 4.... its why I put him as a number 5, he excels at everything else....

Last thing you want is a dman playing 20 minutes a night, and you're saying "oh f**k" everytime he has the puck... think McCabe in the playoffs last year, when he started to try to do too much.

- aries1976


You put a guy like Roy with Rielly.

Rielly does the moving and Roy does the staying. Rielly worked great with Schenn for that exact reason. Rielly takes the puck and (frank)s off with it and Schenn stayed at home.

Rielly doesn't need a true #2, he needs a solid stay at home guy IMO.
Leaffrog
Toronto Maple Leafs
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Feb 18 @ 2:51 PM ET
Not so sure Columbus doesn't start unloading players. They are a tire fire. Calgary looked really bad yesterday and will continue unloading UFA's. Ditto for Sens who lost to the worst team in the league yesterday.
- winsix



Sens lost to themselves?
winsix
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Feb 18 @ 2:54 PM ET
Sens lost to themselves?
- Leaffrog

Dozzer
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Feb 18 @ 3:00 PM ET
You want defenceman that can pass the puck effectively in the top 4.... its why I put him as a number 5, he excels at everything else....

Last thing you want is a dman playing 20 minutes a night, and you're saying "oh f**k" everytime he has the puck... think McCabe in the playoffs last year, when he started to try to do too much.

- aries1976


Simply due who his partner was. They’ve finally got a physical shut down pair so d men 3 and 4 are not necessary. That’s the shut down pairing. The top pair is the offensive one and the bottom pair is the half and half.

If anything replace Liljegren or Brodie with a more physical defensive guy but otherwise there will be no upgrade. A Brodie replacement can be a tad more offensive but the only reason to do that is to upgrade the top pairing right side. He looks better on the left notably.
Skalapy
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Feb 18 @ 3:02 PM ET
So many great covers of this song. The one by CCR is fabulous as well.


- winsix

just when you thought that cat scratch fever couldn’t get any better; pantera comes in and goes top shelf 😍

https://youtu.be/5pncni-ZB2s?si=iKhnh6g6lGQlyJuU
GalacticStone
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Feb 18 @ 3:03 PM ET
What do you guys think of a reunion with Bogosian if he could be had for cheap?
Dozzer
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Feb 18 @ 3:04 PM ET
This.

If Roy is a better Beniot, then I'm in.

Use Robertson + for Roy.

Dump Brodie for Cap relief.

Use the 1st and Minten a few other assets for Jenner...CBJ is flush with young C's....and another middle RHD like Peeke...then the Leafs are in business.

Solid as (frank) forward group:

Knies, Matthews, Marner
Tavares, Jenner, Nylander
Bert, Domi, Jarnkrok
McMann, Kampf, Gregor
Reaves

Nice balance and solid as (frank) D corp:

Rielly, Roy
McCabe, Beniot
Gio, Peeke

Then figure out the goalie situation cuz something has to give between Woll, Jones, Murray and Sammy.

- underhill14


Keep in mind Benoit is a left side guy and only works with McCabe because he can play the right side as well as the left.

Brodie has a M-NTC and is a free agent at the end of the year. He’ll cost picks/prospects for someone to take him on.

And without space opened up no deal with the non playoff sellers unless you dump salary as well by overpaying with the very little picks/prospects that they have.
drexel
Toronto Maple Leafs
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Feb 18 @ 3:04 PM ET
just when you thought that cat scratch fever couldn’t get any better; pantera comes in and goes top shelf 😍

https://youtu.be/5pncni-ZB2s?si=iKhnh6g6lGQlyJuU

- Skalapy

outstanding

edit. I did shots with Vinnie Paul one night at the peelers in vegas. I wish I remembered more from that night
Dozzer
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Feb 18 @ 3:06 PM ET
You put a guy like Roy with Rielly.

Rielly does the moving and Roy does the staying. Rielly worked great with Schenn for that exact reason. Rielly takes the puck and (frank)s off with it and Schenn stayed at home.

Rielly doesn't need a true #2, he needs a solid stay at home guy IMO.

- underhill14


Agree with this, a bit of offensive talent isn’t bad but primarily a defensive guy is who they need with Rielly
Dozzer
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Feb 18 @ 3:07 PM ET
Ranger vs Islanders in outdoor game… about 80K of fans and the islanders jersey looks so old school
Skalapy
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Feb 18 @ 3:24 PM ET
outstanding

edit. I did shots with Vinnie Paul one night at the peelers in vegas. I wish I remembered more from that night

- drexel

holy poop😍
winsix
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Feb 18 @ 3:29 PM ET
Keep in mind Benoit is a left side guy and only works with McCabe because he can play the right side as well as the left.

Brodie has a M-NTC and is a free agent at the end of the year. He’ll cost picks/prospects for someone to take him on.

And without space opened up no deal with the non playoff sellers unless you dump salary as well by overpaying with the very little picks/prospects that they have.

- Dozzer


Hard to calculate the exact TDL cap space available at the moment. It changes daily. Cap Friendly currently shows $1.3M for the Leafs. Agree that a strong stay at home physical d-man would help. If Treliving could make such a move, it will likely come from a non playoff team. Leafs are looking at trading futures (picks and or prospects) a playoff contender will be looking for help now.
aries1976
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Feb 18 @ 3:37 PM ET
You put a guy like Roy with Rielly.

Rielly does the moving and Roy does the staying. Rielly worked great with Schenn for that exact reason. Rielly takes the puck and (frank)s off with it and Schenn stayed at home.

Rielly doesn't need a true #2, he needs a solid stay at home guy IMO.

- underhill14


I can agree with this... this isn't a terrible take.
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