Trade Jarry for Campbell +,+,+ and resign Ned and roll with him for a few years. Bring Flower back next year for a retirement tour and then move everyone at the end of 2025 TDL
- RoloTahmasee

Oh... you and I are on the same page!

I was thinking a little different with Edmonton but directionally there. I was thinking Rackell for Campbell & a 1st. Then figure out what to do with Jarry. I believe Edmonton is happy with Skinner and not looking for a high price starter level goalie, maybe they'd like Ned though.

I think Campbell can actually come back and be a decent (if overpaid) goalie. He has been playing good in the AHL recently. I definitely want to bring Fleury back too, I feel like the locker room could really use him, even if we end up going the rebuild route.

Kind of feel like were about to go into a tail spin. I'm normally pretty positive, but It's really become a one man team with no Jake. Can't get any consistent production from anybody else.
- madmike71

Certainly a possibility but I'm thinking if They lose tonight there's no intrigue. Seasons done.

I think they string us along for a few more games lol.

I wouldn't trade for a goalie.

I like Drury but think he's overplayed in his role right now. Probably a 3/4C long term.
- BINGO!

Ok, cool. I like Drury but wasnt really sure how he was viewed there. 3C is what I kind of thought too.

Certainly a possibility but I'm thinking if They lose tonight there's no intrigue. Seasons done.

I think they string us along for a few more games lol.
- Thorny87

Yeah, I was expecting them to climb back into it before the TDL so we don't sell, then fall apart after ... but that loss to LA was a statement.

Yeah, I was expecting them to climb back into it before the TDL so we don't sell, then fall apart after ... but that loss to LA was a statement.
- MickV

Agreed.

Other than the Blackhawks, the Pens haven't been the better team in any game since returning after the break and the Hawks played them pretty close. They haven't started any of those games like it was "do or die".

3 out of 4 not bad... but the Flower goes in that pic before Geno- all day everyday.

3 out of 4 not bad... but the Flower goes in that pic before Geno- all day everyday.
- dozerD10

lol no.

Oh... you and I are on the same page!

I was thinking a little different with Edmonton but directionally there. I was thinking Rackell for Campbell & a 1st. Then figure out what to do with Jarry. I believe Edmonton is happy with Skinner and not looking for a high price starter level goalie, maybe they'd like Ned though.

I think Campbell can actually come back and be a decent (if overpaid) goalie. He has been playing good in the AHL recently. I definitely want to bring Fleury back too, I feel like the locker room could really use him, even if we end up going the rebuild route.
- MacPatty

I could see holland selling the farm to get Jake or Jarry. Maybe both but I really don’t care for any of edmontons prospects. Holland is in his last year and has already used up nearly 4 mil of next years cap on bonuses. I think he’s been all in from last offseason starting with Connor brown. But I hate Edmonton so I hope it doesn’t happen.

This era of winning Penguins hockey is over. I am just going to enjoy Sid be Sid and embrace the bucket of suck that is soon to come.

Oh... you and I are on the same page!

I was thinking a little different with Edmonton but directionally there. I was thinking Rackell for Campbell & a 1st. Then figure out what to do with Jarry. I believe Edmonton is happy with Skinner and not looking for a high price starter level goalie, maybe they'd like Ned though.

I think Campbell can actually come back and be a decent (if overpaid) goalie. He has been playing good in the AHL recently. I definitely want to bring Fleury back too, I feel like the locker room could really use him, even if we end up going the rebuild route.
- MacPatty

I'm still kinda bullish on Ned as a solid Part Time starter if Jarry is moved. Have a 1A/1B with Ned/Campbell unless Flower wants to play another year here

2024 TDL

Rackell or Smith for Campbell and a 1st

Jarry to Carolina/NJ/whoever

Jake to ??? for player, pick, prospect

Retool the lineup with the capspace for 2024/2025 - If it aint working, Move Sid to the team of his choosing (Colorado) at the 2025 TDL (If he won't resign which if the team isn't going anywhere is a definite possibility)

If you trade Sid, trade everybody. Karlsson, Letang, Malkin, Rust and the rebuild starts in the Summer of 2025

3 out of 4 not bad... but the Flower goes in that pic before Geno- all day everyday.
- dozerD10

I think people really over estimate MAF's contributions to the Penguins on the ice. Dont mean that as hatred towards him, but for years, people wanted to chase him out of Pittsburgh after poor playoff performances. I blame Bylsma more than MAF for those years, but still, Malkin takes the #2 spot without even trying.

MAF and Letang battling for #3 is the better question.

Im confused why any team would trade for Jarry when they had a chance to sign him for no assets less than a year ago?

The 5 realistic guys the Penguins could/should try to trade are Jake, Rakell, Smith, Ned, and Pettersson. For the record - my preference would be to resign Ned, Jake and Pettersson.


The key should be to free up as much salary as possible for this summer. This team needs a big makeover and unfortunately, due to our limited assets, much of that makeover will need to be done via free agency.

3 out of 4 not bad... but the Flower goes in that pic before Geno- all day everyday.
- dozerD10

MAF in case you were not watching, crapped the bed many times in key games not only here but in other situations World Junior championship Vegas and then some of the playoff gaffes while here were like Joe Biden trying to put two sentences together
He made some of the worst performances ever as a Penguin goalie Look it up He cost them a few playoff series when he should have been the key to winning

And here is something you might no consider Why did Team Canada never come calling for him He was the Number one overall pick in his draft year and they never came calling Why They did not trust him Do some research and you will be more informed than you are now

I think people really over estimate MAF's contributions to the Penguins on the ice. Dont mean that as hatred towards him, but for years, people wanted to chase him out of Pittsburgh after poor playoff performances. I blame Bylsma more than MAF for those years, but still, Malkin takes the #2 spot without even trying.

MAF and Letang battling for #3 is the better question.
- SuperHenderson13

I think Bylsma was MASSIVELY overrated as a coach and his cup win was on the coat tails of Therrien's defensive system with the reigns being taken off the players offensively

After that the team was progressively undisciplined under Bylsma which lead to Fleury being the scapegoat when the team fell short. Sheer talent kept the team competitive, which in turn kept Bylsma in his job

I'll take the 3 cups in 8 years the way they played out, but this team left cups and legitimate cup runs on the table post 2009 with Disco Dan

Sully cleaned a lot of that up but Flower never got a full run with him. Murray was Sully's boy and the rest is history

Im confused why any team would trade for Jarry when they had a chance to sign him for no assets less than a year ago?

The 5 realistic guys the Penguins could/should try to trade are Jake, Rakell, Smith, Ned, and Pettersson. For the record - my preference would be to resign Ned, Jake and Pettersson.


The key should be to free up as much salary as possible for this summer. This team needs a big makeover and unfortunately, due to our limited assets, much of that makeover will need to be done via free agency.
- SuperHenderson13

I would not trade Pettersson. Everyone else I would say yes. I would even add Rust to that list before Pettersson. I agree on freeing up salary to remake the team this free agency.

I am hoping for a Stamkos - Crosby - Reinhart top line this free agency. Or even throw Malkin at LW. Then sign a 2nd line center. It is all dependent on what we get back in trades.

Im confused why any team would trade for Jarry when they had a chance to sign him for no assets less than a year ago?

- SuperHenderson13

Players under contract or the goaltending moves they have made not panning out.

Edmonton - they have Campbell. If we take him back in a trade I imagine they would pay handsomely.

Carolina - Andersen has been injured and under contract. Pens would take him back in a trade.

Toronto - bet on Samsonov and it failed badly.

New Jersey - Vanacek has been bad and injured.

Beyond all of that there were question marks with Jarry. He has had a really good season, desperation from win now teams may prevail.

Some strong historical revision gymnastics Mr Wilson. Fans were very aware of the circumstances jagr left. It was his public attitude that soured the fans. Can’t think of too many other players who left who had that reception upon return. They didn’t pout their way out of town. The flyers thing renewed some of that energy but even that was more fans booing a rival org. I remember comparing St. Louis leaving Tampa as a good comparison and you poopooed it. But it was almost a direct comparison. Glad jags is back and all but that pebble was in that skate appropriately for many years.

Wings fan here, stopping by. You have too many good players to not be in the playoff hunt. Your systems aren’t producing wins. You have the talent, so unfortunately it’s a systems issue, so your coach must go. You guys have waited way too long to pull the trigger.

I think Bylsma was MASSIVELY overrated as a coach and his cup win was on the coat tails of Therrien's defensive system with the reigns being taken off the players offensively

After that the team was progressively undisciplined under Bylsma which lead to Fleury being the scapegoat when the team fell short. Sheer talent kept the team competitive, which in turn kept Bylsma in his job

I'll take the 3 cups in 8 years the way they played out, but this team left cups and legitimate cup runs on the table post 2009 with Disco Dan

Sully cleaned a lot of that up but Flower never got a full run with him. Murray was Sully's boy and the rest is history
- RoloTahmasee

Can't argue with any of this. Flower won the first two series in the 3rd cup. As soon as he had a bad game, Sully couldn't wait to put Murray in.

Sully is a good coach. Just way over his "sell by" date here. Bylsma got at least 3 more years than he deserved. Terrible coach.

Wings fan here, stopping by. You have too many good players to not be in the playoff hunt. Your systems aren’t producing wins. You have the talent, so unfortunately it’s a systems issue, so your coach must go. You guys have waited way too long to pull the trigger.
- NC_Scott

Agreed there. Everyone plays better hockey pre or post Sully.

Will preface this by saying I do not think they are making it in, anyway, however this kinda feels like their season really on the line tonight. Divisional game vs a team slightly ahead of them in standings with a few games in hand on them. They lose this in regulation its back breaking.

No matter what happens I'll be pleased to watch Sid doing Sid things...
- MattStrat

Considering Dubas is meeting the media to address the team's TDL plans tomorrow, I agree. This is likely their last chance to convince him not to throw in the towel on this season.

Wings fan here, stopping by. You have too many good players to not be in the playoff hunt. Your systems aren’t producing wins. You have the talent, so unfortunately it’s a systems issue, so your coach must go. You guys have waited way too long to pull the trigger.
- NC_Scott

Coaching staff change should have been done for a while now, should be done now.. At the very least PP coach Reirdon relieved of his duties.. Just to see if that could produce consistency. Pens have actually been great at times this season haha.. One of the best records for an almost two month stretch. People around here were talking about them maybe taking a round or two in playoffs, I agreed. Wild stuff.

Trade Jarry for Campbell +,+,+ and resign Ned and roll with him for a few years. Bring Flower back next year for a retirement tour and then move everyone at the end of 2025 TDL
- RoloTahmasee

If they are throwing in the towel and rebuilding, I could see Fleury/Ned with Blomquist pushing by the end of the year. Might be the smart thing to do. Doubt it's the thing we actually do.

I think people really over estimate MAF's contributions to the Penguins on the ice. Dont mean that as hatred towards him, but for years, people wanted to chase him out of Pittsburgh after poor playoff performances. I blame Bylsma more than MAF for those years, but still, Malkin takes the #2 spot without even trying.

MAF and Letang battling for #3 is the better question.
- SuperHenderson13

Agree with this. Personally I'd go Letang over Fleury. MAF bumps up a lot of lists because he's an all-time great personality.

I do think Fleury is a HoFer and I'm not sure about Letang so overall career I'd go Fleury. But a big part of that is what he did after he left Pittsburgh. Letang had an amazing Pens career.

Im confused why any team would trade for Jarry when they had a chance to sign him for no assets less than a year ago?

The 5 realistic guys the Penguins could/should try to trade are Jake, Rakell, Smith, Ned, and Pettersson. For the record - my preference would be to resign Ned, Jake and Pettersson.


The key should be to free up as much salary as possible for this summer. This team needs a big makeover and unfortunately, due to our limited assets, much of that makeover will need to be done via free agency.
- SuperHenderson13

Because he was coming off an uneven year and Jarry has bounced back with a strong year. That would still be buyer beware to me, but he's a lot more appealing now.