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underhill14
Location: I think I'll just sit back stage until somebody that matters calls me out.-King of HB Systemtool
Joined: 06.02.2010

Feb 21 @ 2:52 PM ET
I get the munchies at 4pm, 7:30pm and 9pm which maked it tuff.
- dmnted

Me too...especially around 10p after I take part in a Mary Jane session. I could chew thru the coffee table some nights.

But dudes going on beach vacations with their ladies usually have that little extra will power needed.
Fakepartofme
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Living rent free... in your head, ON
Joined: 09.20.2010

Feb 21 @ 2:53 PM ET
Leafnation just tossed Lawson Crouse out there. If we were ever to move a first rounder for another forward. I'd be

But I know the D needs most of the attention at this point.

- Leafsmart

He came up on sportsnet as an interest a few days ago. He does look decent, no complaints depending on cost
dmnted
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Space for Rent
Joined: 08.30.2006

Feb 21 @ 2:54 PM ET
Good and fair/accurate points.

We are most definitely debating the slimmest of margins with the Willy v Marner debate and both are elite there is no debating that (well I guess some fan bases from other teams may but that's to be expected).

They hate us, 'cause they ain't us!

GLG

- Cush29

only in my twenties.

oh wait.
is there an eye test also?
Big23Questions
Detroit Red Wings
Location: CrkPlanet, BC
Joined: 04.11.2018

Feb 21 @ 2:58 PM ET
Crouse
Laughton

Borgen
Larsson


I’ve been liking the Crouse talk - thought Dubas should’ve traded for a couple years back when it was rumoured.


Edit: Sounds like a good law firm eh

Crouse Laughton Borgen Larsson
Cush29
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Who Owzzzzz da' Chiefs?, ON
Joined: 12.22.2014

Feb 21 @ 3:01 PM ET
His only 3 goals ever on the pk were this year.
Marner has 1 goal this year and 9 overall in much more pk time....granted.
Career marner is .339 gpg and 1.10 ppg
Career willie is .359gpg and 0.87pgg

So i i wouldnt say "much more" offensive threat.
Willie is having a brake contract year no doubt...but we dont know if this a one off or not yet.
Marner has been more consistent over years but he has a pass first mentality while wilster has a shoot first mentality.
Marner was overpaid his 2nd contract, willie is overpaid on the this one.
Im hoping he takes no more than 12m on his next contract....which he will still he overpaid imo.

- Fakepartofme


I hope we are talking about William Nylander the Stanley Cup Champion whose contract is a good to great deal in a few years (kinda' like how we have been on his current deal for a couple years now).

i also share the hope that Mitchell Marner the Stanley Cup Champion agrees to take 12M or less to remain a Leaf and help them follow Stanley Cup Champion and new Captain and team leader Auston Matthews to another Stanley Cup win, and another, and another and another........hey wait who the hell let the Zezzmeister onto my computer to finish this post off?


Whipper
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: GalacticStone made avi, AB
Joined: 07.04.2006

Feb 21 @ 3:04 PM ET
Crouse
Laughton

Borgen
Larsson


I’ve been liking the Crouse talk - thought Dubas should’ve traded for a couple years back when it was rumoured.


Edit: Sounds like a good law firm eh

Crouse Laughton Borgen Larsson

- Big23Questions

I think Borgen Crouse Laughton Larsson sounds best.
dmnted
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Space for Rent
Joined: 08.30.2006

Feb 21 @ 3:04 PM ET
Me too...especially around 10p after I take part in a Mary Jane session. I could chew thru the coffee table some nights.

But dudes going on beach vacations with their ladies usually have that little extra will power needed.

- underhill14

I got start munching on those pumpkin seed when those munchies kick in.
Cush29
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Who Owzzzzz da' Chiefs?, ON
Joined: 12.22.2014

Feb 21 @ 3:05 PM ET
Crouse
Laughton

Borgen
Larsson


I’ve been liking the Crouse talk - thought Dubas should’ve traded for a couple years back when it was rumoured.


Edit: Sounds like a good law firm eh

Crouse Laughton Borgen Larsson

- Big23Questions


It's good but they need a catchy jingle if they want to compete with the big boys....


Big23Questions
Detroit Red Wings
Location: CrkPlanet, BC
Joined: 04.11.2018

Feb 21 @ 3:05 PM ET
I think Borgen Crouse Laughton Larsson sounds best.
- Whipper



Ha agreed
The Law
Toronto Maple Leafs
Joined: 01.29.2008

Feb 21 @ 3:05 PM ET
Bahia Principe Akumal (in the Mayan Riviera). About 10 years ago my wife and I started routinely working out and did it for about 3 years and I won't lie - I looked pretty decent for a formerly naturally skinny guy (although I think she looked vastly superior!) - but then I got hurt and then found excuses and more excuses to not start up again . . .

This is our first vacation down south since we were married in Cuba in 2004, so we're pretty amped.

- Monkeypunk


Nice - I think we looked at that one when we were searching. We ended up with the Iberostar. I just need good pool, good tacos, good beer, good bed.

The pandemic chopped all my teams and most of them never returned. We lost permits for soccer pitches and rinks plus we got old, busy and cared less. So no sports = no fitness for me for like 2 years. The wife got me a Peleton for xmas ....it's (frank)ing awesome. I'm on it every day ...it's gold if you're a competitive type.

Enjoy Mexico ....20 years! And make it an annual thing b/c travelling somewhere where you have to take the shirt off really helps with the motivation to work out.
Big23Questions
Detroit Red Wings
Location: CrkPlanet, BC
Joined: 04.11.2018

Feb 21 @ 3:06 PM ET
It's good but they need a catchy jingle if they want to compete with the big boys....

- Cush29




Haha
Cush29
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Who Owzzzzz da' Chiefs?, ON
Joined: 12.22.2014

Feb 21 @ 3:10 PM ET
JT to centre line 3?

Or Keefe just messing around?



Link to tweet:

https://x.com/dalter/stat.../1760373825114460437?s=20
Arctic_AARDVARK
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Split rock, Nipigon River., ON
Joined: 07.24.2011

Feb 21 @ 3:14 PM ET
I did not know the goals per game was that close eh that’s crazy! Well done Marner.

As for structure - that’s why (and his anticipation skills off the chart) he is good defensively on the PK. He can play that game. But when the play rolls as it does 5v5 Marner gets lost and when he gets he puck in critical areas he turns it over a ton.

I guarantee nobody discourages Willy from shooting - not even 34. Willy can shoot and score and you want him to do that. I don’t at all see him as selfish with his shots to be honest.

I did see the primary assists between Willy and mitch is as close as the goals per game. It’s weird, I see the play as Willy is a much better goal scorers and Marner a better passer - and yet stats tell us they are very very close in both areas. Crazy.

Either way both real good players. I still think Marner just edges Willy out in that. Shame that Marner will be looking for a lot more money than Willy next contract though. Their pay should be separated by 500K - 700K per year in my opinion.

- Big23Questions

Willy’s gonna have one year over 80pts, this season (his contract year go figure
)

They aren’t the same player at all. Willy is a 0 on the season, and Marner is +19. Willy’s defence will never be elite, I just hope one day it’s good enough that his line can outscore their opponent. The 2nd line rarely faces top shut down pairing, or the other teams 1C, so his +/- should in theory be much better than it is. It’s fun when he scores, but we have to treat getting scored on with the same level of importance. I don’t think Leafs fans understand that
Monkeypunk
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Whenever, wherever, ON
Joined: 06.27.2013

Feb 21 @ 3:15 PM ET
My measuring stick includes everything. Day 1 to today. I just think when you step back and consider the highs, the lows, the consistencies, the minutes played, and everything in between ....Marner has been the better player. And, from what I've seen, I believe he has another gear and will be the better player going forward.

They're both elite so we're debating the margins.

I actually thought Marner was the Leafs best player in the Tampa series last year. He was matched up defensively against the best and his 5v5 numbers were great.

- The Law


My first thought was that Nylander is historically hurt by his poor performance in his hold out season and also by playing 22 games as a rookie - but those numbers, when excluded, don't really affect his overall numbers that much.

If you do it for Nylander, you sort of have to for Mitch - so I simply excluded his Rookie season (which was still pretty decent - 19 goals, 61 points in 77 games).

You end up with a bit of a closer contract - 0.39g - 0.35 in favour of Nylander, who is more of a shooter and 1.16 to 0.93 in points for Mitch. Over those years Nylander's 38 game winning goals to Mitch's 25 may have some sway in how people perceive them - but overall in their whole career it's 39-30, which is even closer - and Matthews has 58.

I agree with you, though - Mitch is a more rounded player and if he can crack the code of playing through playoff manhandling, he could be the key to a more successful playoff run.
Canada Cup
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: This world is just a veil and the face you wear is not your own., ON
Joined: 07.06.2007

Feb 21 @ 3:16 PM ET
JT to centre line 3?

Or Keefe just messing around?



Link to tweet:

https://x.com/dalter/stat.../1760373825114460437?s=20

- Cush29

He ran that for a few shifts either last game or the laugher. He also played JT on the wing a few times. Domi playing better really opens up some options
The Law
Toronto Maple Leafs
Joined: 01.29.2008

Feb 21 @ 3:17 PM ET
Here's get ripped quick plan, that works!

Intermittent fast from 6pm to 10am the next day. Eat nothing. Water is fine. (I even drink beer and it still works for me but better to go full fast obviously)

Then, start doing mountain climbers in 3 variations but continual without stopping.

20 x legs outside of arms wide, alternate left then right for a count of 20, in stride without stopping switch to

20 x legs straight up and back, like running with your hands on the ground, then switch in stride without stopping to

20 x legs to opposite elbow, left knee to right elbow, right knee to left elbow.

You're getting obliques, top and middle abs and lower/man line area.

Put on your favorite pump up song and try to rinse and repeat for the whole song. A normal length song will get you close to 400 total.

You do this for two weeks you will lose copious amounts of weight at the same time toning the whole upper body and you will see abs. Promise. If you really want to shred, do it twice a day: morning and night

Got get it fellas. Start now and you will all be ripped by summer, or not air lifted off a beach in two weeks.

- underhill14


I'm tired and stressed out just reading this! My wife does HIIT and all of this stuff everyday. Costs a fortune but worth it to keep her busy (and fit).

I'm a ride the bike and push a bit of weight guy ...I know, it won't get me ripped but it gets me away from Dad bod and back to semi-athletic bod. With my handsome face a ripped bod would only create problems - it'd get my wife asking too many questions. I don't need that poop man!
fifty__missions
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Burkie's Rented Barn, ON
Joined: 02.12.2013

Feb 21 @ 3:23 PM ET
He came up on sportsnet as an interest a few days ago. He does look decent, no complaints depending on cost
- Fakepartofme

Arizona has 400 first round picks and 950 2nd rounders. Why would they trade that player for picks??
Aaron_85
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Toronto, ON
Joined: 04.22.2014

Feb 21 @ 3:26 PM ET
Yeah thats why the retention makes sense.

Need some cap left over for the RHD side.

Don't know if his full 3.25M makes sense to add..even though it is a good contract.

- Santo_44


SJ already using 2 retention spots for this year and next. Do they want to waste next year on Ferraro when they could be looking to move Vlasic, Hertl or couture out?
Bullot
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Red Deer, AB
Joined: 07.14.2010

Feb 21 @ 3:33 PM ET
Nylander is .36 goals per game over his career.

Marner is .34

Considering how Marner always looks to pass to the best goal scorer on the planet, he’s still scoring at a very close pace to Nylander, and maintaining a higher shooting%. Willy has 16 more goals than mitch over their careers.

Willy loves shooting the puck. He’ll rip it before passing to a wide open Matthews lol. I don’t fault him for shooting all the time tho.


When it comes to playing defence, and structured hockey.. well,, Willy isn’t half the player Mitch is, unfortunately.

- Arctic_AARDVARK


Wouldn’t need D if Marner would stop turning it over with his dipsy doodle passing.
underhill14
Location: I think I'll just sit back stage until somebody that matters calls me out.-King of HB Systemtool
Joined: 06.02.2010

Feb 21 @ 3:33 PM ET
JT to centre line 3?

Or Keefe just messing around?



Link to tweet:

https://x.com/dalter/stat.../1760373825114460437?s=20

- Cush29

I think he did last game too.

I remember thinking it might be because he was still not 100% healthy so Keefe was limiting his ice time. (I know Marner was sick too but he's younger, heals faster was my logic at the time)

Now I'm thinking that maybe it's just because he's slow and sucks?? (not the biggest JT fan )

Matthews for the C!
Fakepartofme
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Living rent free... in your head, ON
Joined: 09.20.2010

Feb 21 @ 3:34 PM ET
I hope we are talking about William Nylander the Stanley Cup Champion whose contract is a good to great deal in a few years (kinda' like how we have been on his current deal for a couple years now).

i also share the hope that Mitchell Marner the Stanley Cup Champion agrees to take 12M or less to remain a Leaf and help them follow Stanley Cup Champion and new Captain and team leader Auston Matthews to another Stanley Cup win, and another, and another and another........hey wait who the hell let the Zezzmeister onto my computer to finish this post off?

- Cush29

Honestly, if they become cup champs with the leafs this or next year, then their cap hit or production would never be thought of again by me. Their contracts could become the worse in the league and I wouldn't care. It would be fine by me. The cup high would last at least 5 years.

........At least 3 years
Bullot
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Red Deer, AB
Joined: 07.14.2010

Feb 21 @ 3:35 PM ET
Crouse
Laughton

Borgen
Larsson


I’ve been liking the Crouse talk - thought Dubas should’ve traded for a couple years back when it was rumoured.


Edit: Sounds like a good law firm eh

Crouse Laughton Borgen Larsson

- Big23Questions


Another vote for Crouse
Fakepartofme
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Living rent free... in your head, ON
Joined: 09.20.2010

Feb 21 @ 3:36 PM ET
Arizona has 400 first round picks and 950 2nd rounders. Why would they trade that player for picks??
- fifty__missions

Doesnt have to be picks.
Maybe another rowbof seats for their little arena.
Arctic_AARDVARK
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Split rock, Nipigon River., ON
Joined: 07.24.2011

Feb 21 @ 3:37 PM ET
He ran that for a few shifts either last game or the laugher. He also played JT on the wing a few times. Domi playing better really opens up some options
- Canada Cup

Could’ve been…


Hyman Matthews Marner
Verheaghe Kadri Nylander
Marchment McCann Moore
Laferriere Domi Engvall

Rielly Schneider
Benoit McCabe
Durzi Sandin
Schenn

Lehner
Woll
Fakepartofme
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Living rent free... in your head, ON
Joined: 09.20.2010

Feb 21 @ 3:41 PM ET
Could’ve been…


Hyman Matthews Marner
Verheaghe Kadri Nylander
Marchment McCann Moore
Laferriere Domi Engvall

Rielly Schneider
Benoit McCabe
Durzi Sandin
Schenn

Lehner
Woll

- Arctic_AARDVARK

And how would it have been the above?
Not trading one player could have created a need to trade another.
Glad kadri was moved out.
Didnt like the Marchment or mccann move...but ah well.
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