Bert Domi Konecny

Rielly Risto..

Think about it, you’ll come around.
- Arctic_AARDVARK

I have, i like Konecny.
Risto not so much.
Willie isnt being traded.

I'd go with a small support add like that, but I'd still want a big swing attempt . . . I'd spend big - like 1st round picks, good prospects, whatever if you can land a 1RHD. They don't need to be an impossibility like prime Pietrangelo or Doughty - I'm not swinging for the moon here - but they need to be capable of playing top pair minutes, stabilizing Rielly and be capable of moving the puck out of danger and protecting the net. I know EF said Larsson is likely unavailable, but someone like him - or Hanifin if an extension could be managed - someone who could come in and legitimately bump Brodie to a different partner. . .


Rielly - newguy
McCabe - Benoit
Brodie - Liljegren
Giordano, Timmins . . .

Since January 1, Rielly - Brodie, despite being +5, have an xGF of 44.4% - they outshot, outchanced and give up 53.6% of the HD chances.

We are 16-6-1 since January 1 despite _that_ being our top pair for 11-6-1 of that nice stretch.

McCabe - Benoit got off to a rough start (43% xGF prior to January 1), but have settled decently enough in at 54.9% since January 1 (although they are -3).

While Brodie - Liljegren weren't great, they were effective. They ended up +7 during Rielly's 5 game suspension but were just 50.8% xGF against top competition. If newguy RHD could push them down against lower competition, those numbers would likely go up and Rielly's mediocre numbers would likely be bolstered.

Same crap I keep saying - but Ekholm did wonders for Edmonton. We literally need that same trade.
- Monkeypunk

But who is available?

Walker has played as good as any of the legit options this year for RHD.

I just have gone through them all...Roy is my favourite fit but he is likely a FA add.

Theres a rotation of directors for the series.
I think 5 different
- Fakepartofme

Cara Joji Fukunaga directed Season 1 of True Detective and all the episodes of Masters of the Air so far

I have, i like Konecny.
Risto not so much.
Willie isnt being traded.
- Fakepartofme

Meh.

He's no Bracco and Dermott.

Cara Joji Fukunaga directed Season 1 of True Detective and all the episodes of Masters of the Air so far
- Canada Cup

True for true detective. But Cary only directed 4 eps of MOTA.
Ep 5 and 6 were not directed by him and neither are the rest from what I believe

True for true detective. But Cary only directed 4 eps of MOTA.
Ep 5 and 6 were not directed by him and neither are the rest from what I believe
- Fakepartofme

Ah. I’ve only done 4 so far.

Nylander absent too.

Konecny and Ristolainen absent at Flyers practice.
- Arctic_AARDVARK

cause they are injured at the moment........

cause they are injured at the moment........
- dmnted

Good job detective Danvers.

I wouldn’t be surprised if the Jays move him this offseason
- Canada Cup

re Vladdy

I like the timing of his UFA. see this season how it goes.
If Soto is a UFA then can go after him and Trade Vlad

Anybody watch True Detective: Night Country? Boy was that awful.
- gravyface

Watched 2 episodes and gave up. What a schizophrenic series. Season 1 is top-5 television of all time. Season 2 a confusing mixed bag. Season 3 very good to great. Season 4 made CSI Miami look smart.

But who is available?

Walker has played as good as any of the legit options this year for RHD.

I just have gone through them all...Roy is my favourite fit but he is likely a FA add.
- Santo_44

Does David Savard rate at all? Big, playoff style of game. I wouldn't want to pay much and his 3.5M wouldn't be ideal next year but it's not bad if he fits with 44.

I'm with Monkey though ...swing big if you can (top level guys with term).

I think the market could swing a bit over the next week. Lots of bubble teams are bursting (Seattle, Pitts, Calgary, NYI, StL, ....maybe Nashville, Minny). So they won't be shopping and might be selling.

Everybody loves a RHD but realistically who's pushing hard to add one this week? Dallas and Toronto for sure ...and maybe TB? Most of the other contenders need a top 6 forward.

Good job detective Danvers.
- Arctic_AARDVARK

It's more Kojak then Danvers ....

Watched 2 episodes and gave up. What a schizophrenic series. Season 1 is top-5 television of all time. Season 2 a confusing mixed bag. Season 3 very good to great. Season 4 made CSI Miami look smart.
- AdamFrench

you take that back. David Caruso is a legend

Does David Savard rate at all? Big, playoff style of game. I wouldn't want to pay much and his 3.5M wouldn't be ideal next year but it's not bad if he fits with 44.

I'm with Monkey though ...swing big if you can (top level guys with term).

I think the market could swing a bit over the next week. Lots of bubble teams are bursting (Seattle, Pitts, Calgary, NYI, StL, ....maybe Nashville, Minny). So they won't be shopping and might be selling.

Everybody loves a RHD but realistically who's pushing hard to add one this week? Dallas and Toronto for sure ...and maybe TB? Most of the other contenders need a top 6 forward.
- The Law

David Savard is OK, would rather just pay the price for Tanev at that point and sign him instead.

The only RHD with term that could maybe be had is Parayko and Andersson.

EF said today people have told him Larsson is not going anywhere.

Nick Jensen has no trade protection, he is quite legit as a top 4D but is also 33.

Bottom line is the options with term are mighty thin, there is no guarantee any of those players are even available.

I feel like Dallas will own the rental market for D men, they may need to bite first.

But who is available?

Walker has played as good as any of the legit options this year for RHD.

I just have gone through them all...Roy is my favourite fit but he is likely a FA add.
- Santo_44

That is the million dollar question. Tanev checks a lot of boxes as well - but he should never be worth as much as is being reported. He's right-handed, plays tough minutes, is a performer, would enable Rielly to roam - and he has some excellent D-Zone retrieval and exit numbers. He isn't at the same level of impact of an Ekholm, but . . .

Does David Savard rate at all? Big, playoff style of game. I wouldn't want to pay much and his 3.5M wouldn't be ideal next year but it's not bad if he fits with 44.

I'm with Monkey though ...swing big if you can (top level guys with term).

I think the market could swing a bit over the next week. Lots of bubble teams are bursting (Seattle, Pitts, Calgary, NYI, StL, ....maybe Nashville, Minny). So they won't be shopping and might be selling.

Everybody loves a RHD but realistically who's pushing hard to add one this week? Dallas and Toronto for sure ...and maybe TB? Most of the other contenders need a top 6 forward.
- The Law

Treliving is checking in on Seattle: must move some money to do it but...

Out: Brodie, Timmins, Robertson +,
In: Gourde, Oleksiak

Knies, Matthews, Marner
Bert, Domi, Nylander
Tavares, Gourde, Jarnkrok
Gregor, Kampf, McMann

Rielly, Oleksiak
Beniot, McCabe
Gio, Lily

Treliving is checking in on Seattle: must move some money to do it but...

Out: Brodie, Timmins, Robertson +,
In: Gourde, Oleksiak

Knies, Matthews, Marner
Bert, Domi, Nylander
Tavares, Gourde, Jarnkrok
Gregor, Kampf, McMann

Rielly, Oleksiak
Beniot, McCabe
Gio, Lily
- underhill14

Lily and Brodie have been the best pair over this streak...and now we want to break it up.

these moves imo do not make the team better..if ever so slightly. dont see the point

That is the million dollar question. Tanev checks a lot of boxes as well - but he should never be worth as much as is being reported. He's right-handed, plays tough minutes, is a performer, would enable Rielly to roam - and he has some excellent D-Zone retrieval and exit numbers. He isn't at the same level of impact of an Ekholm, but . . .
- Monkeypunk

I do think Dallas pays up with a 1st plus another asset.

Does Chicago do another McCabe trade with Murphy 50% retained? I don't know, Tre will have to get creative if he wants a legit top 4 RHD with term.

There have been some rumours of Mantha to Toronto, double retained and I am intrigued.

I do think Dallas pays up with a 1st plus another asset.

Does Chicago do another McCabe trade with Murphy 50% retained? I don't know, Tre will have to get creative if he wants a legit top 4 RHD with term.

There have been some rumours of Mantha to Toronto, double retained and I am intrigued.
- Santo_44

Mehntha

Jenner or Lundestrom

Andersson or Ferraro Savard Tanev

David Savard is OK, would rather just pay the price for Tanev at that point and sign him instead.

The only RHD with term that could maybe be had is Parayko and Andersson.

EF said today people have told him Larsson is not going anywhere.

Nick Jensen has no trade protection, he is quite legit as a top 4D but is also 33.

Bottom line is the options with term are mighty thin, there is no guarantee any of those players are even available.

I feel like Dallas will own the rental market for D men, they may need to bite first.
- Santo_44

I hear you ...EF's report may be the function of Seattle negotiating in the media. I assume everybody has a price. I really doubt Andersson is available at anything less than a 'blow me away' premium.

Agree that Dallas has more to offer and can likely outbid the Leafs for Tanev.

That's how I get to the question with a guy like Savard.

Assuming the elite guys with term are not available at all then what's the next best option? Rentals - what's the price of a Walker or Carrier or Johnson or Edmundson or Bogosian or Dumba versus the price of a guy with term like Savard.

David Savard is OK, would rather just pay the price for Tanev at that point and sign him instead.

The only RHD with term that could maybe be had is Parayko and Andersson.

EF said today people have told him Larsson is not going anywhere.

Nick Jensen has no trade protection, he is quite legit as a top 4D but is also 33.

Bottom line is the options with term are mighty thin, there is no guarantee any of those players are even available.

I feel like Dallas will own the rental market for D men, they may need to bite first.
- Santo_44

I like Rasmus Andersson. I doubt Calgary would trade him, but secondly I'm not sure he's what we need. He skews more offensive than defensive and is less effective in his own zone than I thought he'd be.

Nick Jensen is a guy I've mentioned not liking in the past, but the less he has tried to be offensive, the more he has stabilized his play in the back-end. I don't know what Washington is, though. They aren't rebuilding. They aren't retooling. They are like . . . in stasis until Ovechkin breaks Gretzky's record. Jensen is in the first year of a 3 year deal paying him $4m, so I don't know if they'd move him.

I'm not 100% sold on Parayko - mostly because of the decline in his game from 2020-21, where he looked like a franchise defenseman - to now has been noticeable, but then again he was with Krug that year and since then the Blues have paired him with Scandella, Leddy and Mikkola - getting Parayko and pairing him with Rielly could be a really nice combination.

I like Rasmus Andersson. I doubt Calgary would trade him, but secondly I'm not sure he's what we need. He skews more offensive than defensive and is less effective in his own zone than I thought he'd be.

Nick Jensen is a guy I've mentioned not liking in the past, but the less he has tried to be offensive, the more he has stabilized his play in the back-end. I don't know what Washington is, though. They aren't rebuilding. They aren't retooling. They are like . . . in stasis until Ovechkin breaks Gretzky's record. Jensen is in the first year of a 3 year deal paying him $4m, so I don't know if they'd move him.

I'm not 100% sold on Parayko - mostly because of the decline in his game from 2020-21, where he looked like a franchise defenseman - to now has been noticeable, but then again he was with Krug that year and since then the Blues have paired him with Scandella, Leddy and Mikkola - getting Parayko and pairing him with Rielly could be a really nice combination.
- Monkeypunk

I would not want to trade for Jensen unless he is retained 50%. I am very interested in some sort of McCabe deal again for a RHD...just not sure what teams are willing to eat some cap for a few years. But maybe you can pay a team like Chicago to retain for said team?

Parayko will always hang around the Leafs rumours. The fit is obvious but again STL needs to retain some, or some team needs to. Hard trade to make.

Treliving is checking in on Seattle: must move some money to do it but...

Out: Brodie, Timmins, Robertson +,
In: Gourde, Oleksiak

Knies, Matthews, Marner
Bert, Domi, Nylander
Tavares, Gourde, Jarnkrok
Gregor, Kampf, McMann

Rielly, Oleksiak
Beniot, McCabe
Gio, Lily
- underhill14

The Leafs have capspace to add ....Here's the sitch:

25 guys currently put them up against the Cap. That includes Timmins, Gio, Woll and Jarnkrok.

If they go the simplist of routes and temporarily demote Holmberg and Robbie that gets them to about 1.6M in space with a 23 man roster.

From there if they want to add a blueliner they'll need to move at least one more body to do so. Lets assume Timmy hits LTIR with his Mono ...now they've got 2.7M in cap space to add a guy.

That could be enough to add a rental with $$ retained.

If they need more space then they can run with less than 23 (most teams do). Waive 1 or 2 guys like Jones and/or Lagersson and they're up to as much as $4.4M.

So if they want to make a trade they realistically have ~ $4.4M in cap space if they wanted it.

Lily and Brodie have been the best pair over this streak...and now we want to break it up.

these moves imo do not make the team better..if ever so slightly. dont see the point
- senstroll

Fair.

A couple of things to consider:

1. We definitely need a strong RHD.
2. McMann is falling back down to earth, I don't see him keeping up his McMatthews streak so the 3rd line LW, if not Robertson, is?
3. Gio is coming back. Timmins too. Brodie will not be with Lily forever so his poop play will resurface again soon....never mind we could really use his Cap hit for a player WORTH his Cap hit.

That is all.

I would not want to trade for Jensen unless he is retained 50%. I am very interested in some sort of McCabe deal again for a RHD...just not sure what teams are willing to eat some cap for a few years. But maybe you can pay a team like Chicago to retain for said team?

Parayko will always hang around the Leafs rumours. The fit is obvious but again STL needs to retain some, or some team needs to. Hard trade to make.
- Santo_44

How does Murphy measure in terms of quality? I know he's big and plays top 4 minutes but don't know much about him. Poor kid has been stuck on some bad teams.

The idea of McCabe type trade is interesting. Him at 2.2M for a first+ could be really good for the Cap.