Zezel
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Location: God Leafs Satan The Oneness, ON Joined: 02.28.2011
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Fakepartofme
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Location: Living rent free... in your head, ON Joined: 09.20.2010
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what channel and day is masters of the air on? I'm currently binging love is blind season 6 I think cause my owner (the wife) said so.
Also, yay hot dogs! Also too, most of the jerks here are jerks indeed. - systemtool
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Fakepartofme
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Location: Living rent free... in your head, ON Joined: 09.20.2010
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Wait, Risto is no good, but you want Jamie Oleksiak?
- Arctic_AARDVARK
I shot down Risto.
But ya i would take jamie over him.
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Canada Cup
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Location: This world is just a veil and the face you wear is not your own., ON Joined: 07.06.2007
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I shot down Risto.
But ya i would take jamie over him. - Fakepartofme
Wait. You shot the Risto but you did not shoot the Oleksiak? |
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Dozzer
Referee Toronto Maple Leafs |
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Location: Somewhere over the rainbow since I’m way up high Joined: 09.15.2010
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LEAFS - Zezel
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Atomic Wedgie
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Location: The centre of the hockey universe Joined: 07.31.2006
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Wait. You shot the Risto but you did not shoot the Oleksiak? - Canada Cup
He shot the Risto, but he swears it was because he's on defence. |
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Dozzer
Referee Toronto Maple Leafs |
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Location: Somewhere over the rainbow since I’m way up high Joined: 09.15.2010
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not before then - dmnted
Only 11 days left til the deadline. Banking on Woll before that would be gutsy as hell. I have a funny feeling all three will be with the team unless they’re used in a trade to bring another goalie in. |
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Monkeypunk
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Location: Whenever, wherever, ON Joined: 06.27.2013
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You're going to have to define what you consider "impact" measures and what role you expect these players to perform.
Tanev is a far superior defensive d-man than Ekholm - he is an elite shot blocker, plays a heavy dZone load, and has zero PP time (which affects his meager oZone numbers).
Ekholm is clearly a superior two-way defenseman, but Tanev meets every conceivable need for the Leafs and should be the obvious target. I would argue he would have more impact than a guy like Ekholm (on this team).
Having said that, with Tanev being UFA you would think his price wouldn't be astronomical - but supply and demand carries the day, amirite?
Just hope the Leafs don't overpay for his services. (for the record, I don't think the Leafs land him) - mjones242
I guess there's a few factors at play - Tanev has a 10-team NTC. Most likely other competing teams wouldn't be on the list, but it would depend. There could also be the question of whether Conroy feels any obligation toward Tanev and wants to do him a solid - meaning if Treliving gets in the same ballpark, it would work. It was said that it was thought that Tanev wanted to come to Toronto in the offseason. One way or the other we'll see what happens, I guess.
In terms of Ekholm, he defers offensively to Bouchard on Edmonton, but in Nashville he was the puck manager except when Josi was on. Ekholm was predominantly paired with Carrier the last few years.
But it depends on what you like in terms of their style. For instance Ekholm is more of a defender who will challenge the puck carrier and he's pretty good at it - he tends to be successful at blocking carries over the blue line, he turns and retrieves pucks successfully most of the time - but where Ekholm is challenged is his clean zone exits. He's not been historically overly good at it.
Tanev, by contrast, isn't as good at 1-on-1 puck separation or necessarily preventing zone entry, but he is actually much better than Ekholm at puck retrieval and getting the puck cleanly out of his zone, and well transitioned.
I mean Ekholm helps in keeping the puck in the neutral zone better, Tanev helps at getting the puck back to the neutral zone once it's gotten into your zone. Tanev might actually help more with transitioning with speed which would help us.
Maybe he could be the guy we need - but Ekholm to me was the Muzzin of last year's TDL. He was a great acquisition.
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Fakepartofme
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Location: Living rent free... in your head, ON Joined: 09.20.2010
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Servern with 5 rbis for the jays |
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Fakepartofme
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Location: Living rent free... in your head, ON Joined: 09.20.2010
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Wait. You shot the Risto but you did not shoot the Oleksiak? - Canada Cup
Yeah, all around in my home town
They're tryin to track me down |
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Fakepartofme
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Location: Living rent free... in your head, ON Joined: 09.20.2010
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Only 11 days left til the deadline. Banking on Woll before that would be gutsy as hell. I have a funny feeling all three will be with the team unless they’re used in a trade to bring another goalie in. - Dozzer
Ya i feel like they'll be keeping 3 goalies.
Jones or murray if healthy |
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aries1976
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Location: The Frustration that unites us all. , AB Joined: 02.26.2007
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Is it possible because of the high ankle sprain, that Woll stays with the Marlies for the rest of the year and starts the entire playoffs there, and is the starter next year when everyone else is off the books? |
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systemtool
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Location: Real men always have to poo, ON Joined: 09.12.2007
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Is it possible because of the high ankle sprain, that Woll stays with the Marlies for the rest of the year and starts the entire playoffs there, and is the starter next year when everyone else is off the books? - aries1976
no |
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Whipper
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Location: GalacticStone made avi, AB Joined: 07.04.2006
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Is it possible because of the high ankle sprain, that Woll stays with the Marlies for the rest of the year and starts the entire playoffs there, and is the starter next year when everyone else is off the books? - aries1976
He was recalled from his conditioning stint, so seems that isn't going to be the case. He's legit our #1 despite how well Sammy has been playing of late.
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Monkeypunk
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Location: Whenever, wherever, ON Joined: 06.27.2013
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Is it possible because of the high ankle sprain, that Woll stays with the Marlies for the rest of the year and starts the entire playoffs there, and is the starter next year when everyone else is off the books? - aries1976
He can't. He can be assigned there on a conditioning stint, but he is eligible for waivers so if the Leafs wanted him to stay there beyond the conditioning stint window (10 days, I believe is the maximum), he would have to pass through waivers.
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Canada Cup
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Location: This world is just a veil and the face you wear is not your own., ON Joined: 07.06.2007
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Ya i feel like they'll be keeping 3 goalies.
Jones or murray if healthy - Fakepartofme
Murray you can probably keep around for free. Keeping Jones costs $875K that could be used for other acquisitions plus whatever he could bring in a trade. They can probably get Woll into 2 or e starts before the TDL. If things look iffy they could keep 3 for a while and just take the chance on putting Jones through waivers |
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mjones242
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Location: Pretentious Beer Snob, ON Joined: 06.22.2015
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I guess there's a few factors at play - Tanev has a 10-team NTC. Most likely other competing teams wouldn't be on the list, but it would depend. There could also be the question of whether Conroy feels any obligation toward Tanev and wants to do him a solid - meaning if Treliving gets in the same ballpark, it would work. It was said that it was thought that Tanev wanted to come to Toronto in the offseason. One way or the other we'll see what happens, I guess.
In terms of Ekholm, he defers offensively to Bouchard on Edmonton, but in Nashville he was the puck manager except when Josi was on. Ekholm was predominantly paired with Carrier the last few years.
But it depends on what you like in terms of their style. For instance Ekholm is more of a defender who will challenge the puck carrier and he's pretty good at it - he tends to be successful at blocking carries over the blue line, he turns and retrieves pucks successfully most of the time - but where Ekholm is challenged is his clean zone exits. He's not been historically overly good at it.
Tanev, by contrast, isn't as good at 1-on-1 puck separation or necessarily preventing zone entry, but he is actually much better than Ekholm at puck retrieval and getting the puck cleanly out of his zone, and well transitioned.
I mean Ekholm helps in keeping the puck in the neutral zone better, Tanev helps at getting the puck back to the neutral zone once it's gotten into your zone. Tanev might actually help more with transitioning with speed which would help us.
Maybe he could be the guy we need - but Ekholm to me was the Muzzin of last year's TDL. He was a great acquisition. - Monkeypunk
To be clear, Tanev is not someone I would pair Rielly with - he's a stay-at-home style defenseman who will get the lion's share of dZone starts as part of a "shutdown" pair.
Would be interested to see if McCabe could handle duties on the right-side with Rielly:
Rielly-McCabe
Benoit-Tanev
Brodie-Liljegren
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Dozzer
Referee Toronto Maple Leafs |
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Location: Somewhere over the rainbow since I’m way up high Joined: 09.15.2010
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Ya i feel like they'll be keeping 3 goalies.
Jones or murray if healthy - Fakepartofme
Yeah, still makes Jones a no go in less than 2 weeks is all I’m thinking. |
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dmnted
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Location: Space for Rent Joined: 08.30.2006
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Is it possible because of the high ankle sprain, that Woll stays with the Marlies for the rest of the year and starts the entire playoffs there, and is the starter next year when everyone else is off the books? - aries1976
he would need to clear waivers to do so |
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Monkeypunk
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Location: Whenever, wherever, ON Joined: 06.27.2013
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To be clear, Tanev is not someone I would pair Rielly with - he's a stay-at-home style defenseman who will get the lion's share of dZone starts as part of a "shutdown" pair.
Would be interested to see if McCabe could handle duties on the right-side with Rielly:
Rielly-McCabe
Benoit-Tanev
Brodie-Liljegren
Gio - mjones242
I don't know if Keefe has the time and patience to let it happen. They played together a few times this year and while they weren't that bad together (+2 in 42 minutes and a 54% xGF), I recall them getting caught too often. Because Rielly is a roamer and a pincher, McCabe wasn't reading his tendencies well and McCabe made several ill-advised pinches - or just forays into the O-zone leaving two forwards back. I guess it only resulted in 1 5v5 goal against, but . . .if I were a coach, I might have been inclined to pull the plug on it, too.
Then again I think McCabe has really found a groove of late - he's fit in very well with a few guys, but especially he and Benoit.
Tanev is presently paired up with Hanifin, and they're decent together. Hanifin is a little more offensive-minded, but probably a lot more "2-way" than Rielly.
It's a tough read. For me the ideal thing is the same thing we've been looking for since Lou arrived - a right handed top pairing guy who can compliment Morgan Rielly effectively. Who could that be who is possibly available?
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Dozzer
Referee Toronto Maple Leafs |
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Location: Somewhere over the rainbow since I’m way up high Joined: 09.15.2010
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Honest question here. If the leafs waited til after the trade deadline to drop Jones to the minors would a team that grabs him be allowed to use him in the post season? At either level? |
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systemtool
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Location: Real men always have to poo, ON Joined: 09.12.2007
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To be clear, Tanev is not someone I would pair Rielly with - he's a stay-at-home style defenseman who will get the lion's share of dZone starts as part of a "shutdown" pair.
Would be interested to see if McCabe could handle duties on the right-side with Rielly:
Rielly-McCabe
Benoit-Tanev
Brodie-Liljegren
Gio - mjones242
that's exactly who I want with Rielly. that type. |
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TheMussel
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Location: Toronto, ON Joined: 09.24.2013
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Honest question here. If the leafs waited til after the trade deadline to drop Jones to the minors would a team that grabs him be allowed to use him in the post season? At either level? - Dozzer
google tells me waivers in effect until day after regular season ends
but that he is not eligible for playoffs if claimed after tdl |
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Fakepartofme
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Location: Living rent free... in your head, ON Joined: 09.20.2010
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Honest question here. If the leafs waited til after the trade deadline to drop Jones to the minors would a team that grabs him be allowed to use him in the post season? At either level? - Dozzer
I dont believe so. I recall something like that last year.
Or maybe it was signing?
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Santo_44
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Joined: 10.20.2014
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Honest question here. If the leafs waited til after the trade deadline to drop Jones to the minors would a team that grabs him be allowed to use him in the post season? At either level? - Dozzer
100%
A free cheap NHL goalie for depth
There will be playoff teams with the space from accumulated cap
Edit: I missread this Thought you were saying a team would maybe not pick him up |
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