Sure

How much are they retaining?

Also, that’s a penalty for the Leafs
- mr.sir

1 whole Ristolainen I hope

Having too many overpaid elite talents on the same roster is a good problem to have. One day the Leafs won't have this problem. Most teams don't.

players hire agents to deal with money, agents care about ONE things....maximizing terms and salary for their clients, it is the same every where. Some teams have it a bit easier with less taxes for players to pay and less media attention.
- Symba007

I disagree, it's no secret that the Maple Leafs are the richest team in the league, and while there is a hard salary cap, the agents for players here know they can take us to max dollars/term and we'll find a way, even if that means burying salary (Robidas Island) or maxing out LTIR overages, max bonuses, NMC (which means burying salary down the road).

Having too many overpaid elite talents on the same roster is a good problem to have. One day the Leafs won't have this problem. Most teams don't.
- GalacticStone

elite talent is one thing during the regular season but under a hard salary cap, having a balanced line up goes a long way in the playoffs

I disagree, it's no secret that the Maple Leafs are the richest team in the league, and while there is a hard salary cap, the agents for players here know they can take us to max dollars/term and we'll find a way, even if that means burying salary (Robidas Island) or maxing out LTIR overages, max bonuses, NMC (which means burying salary down the road).
- gravyface

it's no different with MTL really, look how much $ Price, Gallagher, Anderson just to name a few squeezed out of our former GM. Agent leverage ALL angles to maximize their clients benefits

Interesting stat I saw on the infernet: goals through 535 career games - Ovechkin 327, Matthews 350.

Interesting stat I saw on the infernet: goals through 535 career games - Ovechkin 327, Matthews 350.
- Zezel

durability is what made the Russian great, he was/is a tank

Having too many overpaid elite talents on the same roster is a good problem to have. One day the Leafs won't have this problem. Most teams don't.
- GalacticStone

Yep, it's not even a problem. It's an opportunity.

durability is what made the Russian great, he was/is a tank
- Symba007

Yep Matthews is gonna have to do what he's doing for another decade then it gets really interesting.

elite talent is one thing during the regular season but under a hard salary cap, having a balanced line up goes a long way in the playoffs
- Symba007

This is true. That hard cap is a brutal and cold master.

Yep, it's not even a problem. It's an opportunity.
- Zezel

It is. It is one that I hope pays off and I have a good feeling that it might finally do that.

Call me nuts, but I am weirdly optimistic this season. I might be setting myself up for crushing disappointment, but isn't that the hallmark of a true Leaf fan? Or, does that good feeling need to be completely annihilated first before I can get my Blue card?

I disagree, it's no secret that the Maple Leafs are the richest team in the league, and while there is a hard salary cap, the agents for players here know they can take us to max dollars/term and we'll find a way, even if that means burying salary (Robidas Island) or maxing out LTIR overages, max bonuses, NMC (which means burying salary down the road).
- gravyface

LTIR significantly hampers a team's flexibility and ability to be creative. Honestly unless there's a benefit to it down the road (like Kane or Kucherov), it's typically not a great place to be. That said if you have no room and need to make room, and have a player on IR - then room can be found with LTIR, so it has its uses as we've all seen.

You have your obvious geographical disadvantages to Canada vs some American destinations - in that it's pretty cold here winter and pretty nice in the south. You have taxation - which has workarounds, but not for everyone. It depends on your nationality and primary place of residence. Mitch Marner, for instance, as a Canadian, doesn't get to exercise the same loopholes that Auston Matthews does. They can defer large portions of their earnings into retirement plans that are taxed much lower, but they won't see that money for another 30 years. So there are considerations to contracts here, I would imagine.

That all said - there are also simply negotiations. I get the feeling that when Yzerman negotiated Kucherov's extension he was probably able to point out to him that his $9.5m out earned most other market's $9.5m, but what he probably did moreso was say that it was as high as he was willing to go - take it or leave it. That whole, "Stay here and win a cup, or go elsewhere and don't," type of mentality.

I don't necessarily think we've had the best contract negotiators here for a while now - including Treliving - and that probably doesn't help our perspective. Lou did a great job on some bridge deals, but outside of that we haven't struck gold on too many contracts - although Nylander's last deal was pretty sweet.

I gotta think Hanafin is the trade that breaks things open. Who's ponying up for him? Boston, TBay ...maybe Detroit or Dallas?

I don't think any team pays the price without a need/ability to re-sign him. Boston or Detroit may be the best fits unless Dallas is ok adding a lefty.

If Dallas landed Hanafin ....Tanev to the Leafs becomes a better possibility.

LTIR significantly hampers a team's flexibility and ability to be creative. Honestly unless there's a benefit to it down the road (like Kane or Kucherov), it's typically not a great place to be. That said if you have no room and need to make room, and have a player on IR - then room can be found with LTIR, so it has its uses as we've all seen.

You have your obvious geographical disadvantages to Canada vs some American destinations - in that it's pretty cold here winter and pretty nice in the south. You have taxation - which has workarounds, but not for everyone. It depends on your nationality and primary place of residence. Mitch Marner, for instance, as a Canadian, doesn't get to exercise the same loopholes that Auston Matthews does. They can defer large portions of their earnings into retirement plans that are taxed much lower, but they won't see that money for another 30 years. So there are considerations to contracts here, I would imagine.

That all said - there are also simply negotiations. I get the feeling that when Yzerman negotiated Kucherov's extension he was probably able to point out to him that his $9.5m out earned most other market's $9.5m, but what he probably did moreso was say that it was as high as he was willing to go - take it or leave it. That whole, "Stay here and win a cup, or go elsewhere and don't," type of mentality.

I don't necessarily think we've had the best contract negotiators here for a while now - including Treliving - and that probably doesn't help our perspective. Lou did a great job on some bridge deals, but outside of that we haven't struck gold on too many contracts - although Nylander's last deal was pretty sweet.
- Monkeypunk

2 points.

1. Friedman one said Yzerman does a great job on the nice pair of jeans sell job. That 9.5 million buys you a real nice pair of jeans, nice car, nice watch and you don't need more. You can buy 100 pairs of jeans but you can only wear one pair at a time so buy one really nice pair.

2. There are tax advantages but not enough to move Matthews as some had said he was for sure to do!
Matthews Be-leafs!

Sounds like Jenner to Leafs 👍💙

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Coach : Zezel

Strength and Conditioning Coach : Skalapy 👊👊

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Plan the phucking parade!

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I get the fact that Dumba plays for a poop team, but his numbers have been brutal. if you look at the way he is rated by the Athletic, -2 Offense and -5 Defense at $3.9M, he's not really worth anything, especially the gymnastics required to fit him under the cap. I would rather look at a player like Seeler on the Flyers. Big, really dirty, blocks shots, low cap hit and very responsible defensively. Only negative is he's a left shot.
- winsix

used to watch a bunch of Minnesota games when Dumba was there... never understood the hype. I think Dumba benefited from his partners - which were generally good.


from Arizona Leafs would be better off with Josh Brown on the cheap.

LTIR significantly hampers a team's flexibility and ability to be creative. Honestly unless there's a benefit to it down the road (like Kane or Kucherov), it's typically not a great place to be. That said if you have no room and need to make room, and have a player on IR - then room can be found with LTIR, so it has its uses as we've all seen.

You have your obvious geographical disadvantages to Canada vs some American destinations - in that it's pretty cold here winter and pretty nice in the south. You have taxation - which has workarounds, but not for everyone. It depends on your nationality and primary place of residence. Mitch Marner, for instance, as a Canadian, doesn't get to exercise the same loopholes that Auston Matthews does. They can defer large portions of their earnings into retirement plans that are taxed much lower, but they won't see that money for another 30 years. So there are considerations to contracts here, I would imagine.

That all said - there are also simply negotiations. I get the feeling that when Yzerman negotiated Kucherov's extension he was probably able to point out to him that his $9.5m out earned most other market's $9.5m, but what he probably did moreso was say that it was as high as he was willing to go - take it or leave it. That whole, "Stay here and win a cup, or go elsewhere and don't," type of mentality.

I don't necessarily think we've had the best contract negotiators here for a while now - including Treliving - and that probably doesn't help our perspective. Lou did a great job on some bridge deals, but outside of that we haven't struck gold on too many contracts - although Nylander's last deal was pretty sweet.
- Monkeypunk

Well, I agree with a lot of what you're saying, but being a GM here has to be one of the toughest jobs in pro sports. You're damned if you do, damned if you don't with regards to star players' contracts, the relentless pressure from the press, the "other gear" that every team and player in the league finds whenever they play Toronto... I've always wondered what the ex-Leaf scoring percentage looks like for the Leafs compared to other markets.

Then there's the scrutiny and optics on HNIC, how that affects refereeing, penalty differentials (ours has consistently been terrible for half a decade now), the suspension differential (we all saw that chart that Jeffler tweeted), etc.

Huge news just broke on Twatter :

Leafs major management shakeup.

New hires :

General Manager : Monkey Punk

Coach : Zezel

Strength and Conditioning Coach : Skalapy 👊👊

Director of Media Relations : Drexel

Plan the phucking parade!
- GalacticStone

we’re gon have mad fun in the change room 😍🍆

Huge news just broke on Twatter :

Leafs major management shakeup.

New hires :

General Manager : Monkey Punk

Coach : Zezel

Strength and Conditioning Coach : Skalapy 👊👊

Director of Media Relations : Drexel

Plan the phucking parade!
- GalacticStone

what a shake up that is!!!!!


Well except for the conditioning coach

Think necks and pulling lawnmower

what a shake up that is!!!!!


Well except for the conditioning coach

Think necks and pulling lawnmower
- dmnted

The rest of us are on the advisory board.

Nice troll work by Leaf fans at Sens game. Guy in Greig jersey “proposing” to his his gf interrupted by guy in Rielly jersey who steals the girl, all caught on proposal cam.


https://x.com/nickbarden/...&t=zXygQ9RZlVYvHUlIXsYVmg

Huge news just broke on Twatter :

Leafs major management shakeup.

New hires :

General Manager : Monkey Punk

Coach : Zezel

Strength and Conditioning Coach : Skalapy 👊👊

Director of Media Relations : Drexel

Plan the phucking parade!
- GalacticStone

I'm gonna put Nylander on the first and second line!

Matthews hasn’t scored in a game or 2.
+2000 for him to score a 3 or more. Feels tempting.

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