Agreed.

Now we find out what's cooking in the rest of the market. If Tanev is a 2nd and an "ok" prospect ...that should make the rest of the rentals affordable.

Or does Tree have a McCabe-type deal up his sleeve.
- The Law

Or maybe we have an own rental?
Timmins is right handed no?
With only 2 picks i believe in the top 2 rounds the next three years.....i feel like tdl could be quiet for the leafs for a while.
Dubas really (frank)ed us.

And francis is a known leafs hater. So everything he says about them is a little skewed.
- Fakepartofme

even Flames fans dont like Francis

Or maybe we have an own rental?
Timmins is right handed no?
With only 2 picks i believe in the top 2 rounds the next three years.....i feel like tdl could be quiet for the leafs for a while.
Dubas really (frank)ed us.
- Fakepartofme

I think at a minimum they deal a mid-round pick for a Dumba or Johnson type.

even Flames fans dont like Francis
- drexel

Who's the big fat Oilers commentator? His eyes look closed when he's on camera and he's a total homer. He makes Oiler games tough to watch.

I think at a minimum they deal a mid-round pick for a Dumba or Johnson type.
- The Law

via GIPHY

Honestly, the original report came from Eric Francis ..a beat writer for the Flames ..and the report doesn't really say what people have been reporting. It simply said Conroy would have some fear that losing a trade with Toronto would come with a lot of drama but even that was pure speculation. Weekes was just repeating that same "twitter". Welcome to social media. If Conroy was really hesitant to deal with the Leafs then the gazzilion reports of them talking about Zadarov, Tanev, etc... wouldn't be happening at all.

I'm with you ...I doubt it mattered to Conroy at all. What mattered was the Leafs weren't prepared to beat the Dallas offer. Best offer got Tanev.
- The Law

I thought I'd heard there was something to do with Edwards, the team's owner, not wanting to deal with Treliving and particularly not wanting to do anything to help Toronto.

Earlier in the season it was reported that Conroy and Treliving had an excellent working relationship and should have been able to get a deal done - but it would seem that something else may have interrupted that - other than just a "better offer" since neither offer that came along has been that outstanding.

One thing to note, if I recall correctly - on the Tanev trade, it's only the second time in Calgary's history they've retained salary on a deal. So there may be a natural reluctance there.

I thought I'd heard there was something to do with Edwards, the team's owner, not wanting to deal with Treliving and particularly not wanting to do anything to help Toronto.

Earlier in the season it was reported that Conroy and Treliving had an excellent working relationship and should have been able to get a deal done - but it would seem that something else may have interrupted that - other than just a "better offer" since neither offer that came along has been that outstanding.

One thing to note, if I recall correctly - on the Tanev trade, it's only the second time in Calgary's history they've retained salary on a deal. So there may be a natural reluctance there.
- Monkeypunk

Kyper and Bourne spoke about this
The thought was that if TO wins the trade, you will never hear the end of it, with the size of the Leafs media. Hence, the fear in dealing with TO.
Gilmour anyone?

Who's the big fat Oilers commentator? His eyes look closed when he's on camera and he's a total homer. He makes Oiler games tough to watch.
- The Law

Bob Stauffer

I think at a minimum they deal a mid-round pick for a Dumba or Johnson type.
- The Law

Bob Stauffer.

It's not just him. Listen to _everyone_ on the Oilers broadcast. They all have to constantly pump the Oilers tires. It's like that Twilight Zone episode where they're all afraid of being wished away into the cornfield.

I saw a game a month ago where some kid - 24 or 25 or something like that - was playing his first NHL game and they had a 4 minute segment talking about how great the kid was. He played like 5 minutes in the game, if that. You _never_ saw him.

Bob Stauffer.

It's not just him. Listen to _everyone_ on the Oilers broadcast. They all have to constantly pump the Oilers tires. It's like that Twilight Zone episode where they're all afraid of being wished away into the cornfield.

I saw a game a month ago where some kid - 24 or 25 or something like that - was playing his first NHL game and they had a 4 minute segment talking about how great the kid was. He played like 5 minutes in the game, if that. You _never_ saw him.
- Monkeypunk

have you been to EDM? The oilers is all they have

Kyper and Bourne spoke about this
The thought was that if TO wins the trade, you will never hear the end of it, with the size of the Leafs media. Hence, the fear in dealing with TO.
Gilmour anyone?
- mr.sir

It's bizarre because it's not even in the same ballpark.

You'd be trading Zadorov, Tanev, Hanifin or Lindholm as examples of who they have had on the market . . . they are all expiring and not resigning in Calgary. I know the Gilmour deal was terrible for them but it was a hockey trade not a rebuilding trade.

If trading Tanev and Zadorov both would have netted them a 1st and a better prospect than Grushnikov, it's very likely a better deal for your team than a 2nd, two 3rds, a 5th and Grushnikov. When you're rebuilding quality over quantity matters.

For all you folks in the London area….

Palasad Socialbowl tonight!
You won’t be disappointed

For all you folks in the London area….

Palasad Socialbowl tonight!
You won’t be disappointed
- mr.sir

What's this about a salad bowl?

What's this about a salad bowl?
- Monkeypunk

That’s what food eats!

I think at a minimum they deal a mid-round pick for a Dumba or Johnson type.
- The Law

Agreed.
Get a cheap depth D.

Fix the issues in the off season

For all you folks in the London area….

Palasad Socialbowl tonight!
You won’t be disappointed
- mr.sir

Is this a sex thing?

Is this a sex thing?
- Fakepartofme

https://youtu.be/tdt-ENIdOcM?si=8Unpu-Fw83FWq17W
https://youtu.be/U6BSM3hBN2c?si=oXjqep3eCnw-d22Q

Kyper and Bourne spoke about this
The thought was that if TO wins the trade, you will never hear the end of it, with the size of the Leafs media. Hence, the fear in dealing with TO.
Gilmour anyone?
- mr.sir

Ya, that was with an interview with Eric Francis ...he's their Damian Cox.

Or maybe we have an own rental?
Timmins is right handed no?
With only 2 picks i believe in the top 2 rounds the next three years.....i feel like tdl could be quiet for the leafs for a while.
Dubas really (frank)ed us.
- Fakepartofme

You still whining about this?

He did what every GM does, moved some pieces including draft picks to make some trades. Some worked out, some didn't.

Gawd.
Lol

even Flames fans dont like Francis
- drexel

Is he their Howard Berger?

It's bizarre because it's not even in the same ballpark.

You'd be trading Zadorov, Tanev, Hanifin or Lindholm as examples of who they have had on the market . . . they are all expiring and not resigning in Calgary. I know the Gilmour deal was terrible for them but it was a hockey trade not a rebuilding trade.

If trading Tanev and Zadorov both would have netted them a 1st and a better prospect than Grushnikov, it's very likely a better deal for your team than a 2nd, two 3rds, a 5th and Grushnikov. When you're rebuilding quality over quantity matters.
- Monkeypunk

I don't buy any of it ...it's drama coming from one reporter. Lindholm winning in Vancouver would be no different ....maybe worse (if they really cared about that).

But I agree, I think cash retention was a big variable ...especially back in November as opposed to now.

have you been to EDM? The oilers is all they have
- drexel

Well they have the elks as well

Which is i guess similar to all that calgary has.

You still whining about this?

He did what every GM does, moved some pieces including draft picks to make some trades. Some worked out, some didn't.

Gawd.
Lol
- Cush29

"Look at me, look at me!"

I never was whining about that, i just simply pointed it out in the previous post. Ive said many of his trades were good.....its just that most were rentals.

Bob Stauffer.

It's not just him. Listen to _everyone_ on the Oilers broadcast. They all have to constantly pump the Oilers tires. It's like that Twilight Zone episode where they're all afraid of being wished away into the cornfield.
- Monkeypunk

You really think so? I watch a decent amount of the Oilers due to geographical proximity and I've always found their commentators to be bearable. Definitely not Stauffer, but Singh and DeBrusk seem good. I know some Oiler fans that HATE how neutral they are.

Well they have the eskies as well

Which is i guess similar to all that calgary has.
- Fakepartofme

they changed their name to Elk to be politically correct.