It can be about fit too, because everything you just said describes Schenn and he turned out to be much more than a bottom pairing defenceman here last season.
- joel878

Yup. You and Mussel hit it on the head. With Rielly both of them have played well. Schenn was a bit more adaptable, but Boosh was pretty decent with Rielly. I will say that he was not good in the playoffs at all - he was, arguably, our worst regular defenseman in that series against Tampa (outside of Lilly, who was benched in the series, if I recall correctly). To me, if I'm being blunt - he's not an answer, but he can absolutely be a complimentary piece.

So one year he had 67 in 59 games - so he was going to get 13 points in 1 game?
The next year he had 67 in 55 games - I mean 13 points in 5 games is more plausible, but certainly wasn't his pace.

Every other year he played more than 60 games and didn't do it. That's not even the team's 60th. That's Mitch playing 60 games and not getting to 80 points.

Willy is having a good season. There's no reason to take it away from him but saying, "yeah but Mitch would've done it!"

If Mitch would've done it, he would have done it.
- Monkeypunk

Uh?
Zezel asked why mitch hadn't gotten 80pts 3 years in a row by now. I pointed out that he would have had it not been for covid as he played at roughly 1.13ppg or something like that.
Wtf are you talking about 1 game? Had it been a regular season of 82 games he would have gotten over 80pts. But due to covid, they didnt play 82 games.
Getting 80pts in 60 games wasnt the premise of the convo. And no one was taking anything away from willie. I even pointed out he could get 100 this year.
Jesus christ

Leafs > Tampa (now).

It can be about fit too, because everything you just said describes Schenn and he turned out to be much more than a bottom pairing defenceman here last season.
- joel878

Indeed Schenn with Reilly turned out well. Reilly had a monster playoffs (which has translated to a wonderful season this year), and yet the Leafs only won one round.

I'm praying that Tree paid the extra for cap space to ensure a shot at something much better than Boosh!

I can't help but think Robertson (and more) will be on the block for a bigger deal.

Still a need for a top 4 RHD and solid 3rd line center. Maybe a 2nd line center if you're looking to keep Tavares on the third.

So lyubushkyn eh
- TheMussel

meh. 2 picks for him
if there is another move, then fine what ever...still high price for a 6th D... but if thats it. dont like it

meh. 2 picks for him
if there is another move, then fine what ever...still high price for a 6th D... but if thats it. dont like it
- senstroll

with double retention

with double retention
- dmnted

Double Rainbow all the way!

meh. 2 picks for him
if there is another move, then fine what ever...still high price for a 6th D... but if thats it. dont like it
- senstroll

I don’t mind it for what it is - adding a depth RD defenceman. I assume that Tre continues to go after someone higher up the food chain but if he gets Ohtani’ed in everyone he goes after, he will at least have marginally improved the D. And there’s still a chance they catch lightning in a bottle and Boosh matches up well with Rielly.

lol enjoy

Leafs > Tampa (now).
- GalacticStone

And forevermore.

lol enjoy
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- GalacticStone

Kirill Slepets stinks and will never see the ice in north america but he's got a cool name.

I don’t mind it for what it is - adding a depth RD defenceman. I assume that Tre continues to go after someone higher up the food chain but if he gets Ohtani’ed in everyone he goes after, he will at least have marginally improved the D. And there’s still a chance they catch lightning in a bottle and Boosh matches up well with Rielly.
- Canada Cup

Yeah, in a hot market, for a "unicorn" (RD), a 3rd and a 6th is not the end of the world.

Plus we did get a prospect back, so basically we paid a 3rd or a 6th, depending on if that dude ever plays a game over here for us.

More importantly, we still have the 1st to get a better RD.

Seeing as Brodie is on an expiring contract with a M-NTC, does Brad swing big and move Brodie + 1st?

Surprisingly, nobody is talking about that as a possibility, but it's clear that Brodie isn't any better than McCabe at this point in his career, and we know the Rielly-Brodie pairing isn't good enough for a deep playoff run...

lol enjoy
- BINGO!

You're like the hot chick in high school with the big boobs and tiny waist, teasing everyone with your abundance of D (insert tranny joke here).

You're like the hot chick in high school with the big boobs and tiny waist, teasing everyone with your abundance of D (insert tranny joke here).
- gravyface

You guys could have had DeAngelo for free.

They've been trying to give him away for months now and nobody will take him.

Yeah, in a hot market, for a "unicorn" (RD), a 3rd and a 6th is not the end of the world.

Plus we did get a prospect back, so basically we paid a 3rd or a 6th, depending on if that dude ever plays a game over here for us.

More importantly, we still have the 1st to get a better RD.

Seeing as Brodie is on an expiring contract with a M-NTC, does Brad swing big and move Brodie + 1st?

Surprisingly, nobody is talking about that as a possibility, but it's clear that Brodie isn't any better than McCabe at this point in his career, and we know the Rielly-Brodie pairing isn't good enough for a deep playoff run...
- gravyface

Brodie needs to play on the Left side at this point. Brodie - Lily pair was really good, and is like to see more of that.

I dont see the point in moving him, unless it is for a really decent upgrade (unlikely)

Kirill Slepets stinks and will never see the ice in north america but he's got a cool name.
- BINGO!

Briesbois would have given 23 more picks. Fools.

Uh?
Zezel asked why mitch hadn't gotten 80pts 3 years in a row by now. I pointed out that he would have had it not been for covid as he played at roughly 1.13ppg or something like that.
Wtf are you talking about 1 game? Had it been a regular season of 82 games he would have gotten over 80pts. But due to covid, they didnt play 82 games.
Getting 80pts in 60 games wasnt the premise of the convo. And no one was taking anything away from willie. I even pointed out he could get 100 this year.
Jesus christ
- Fakepartofme

I apologize - I got the wrong reference. I thought this was in reference to Willy being only the third Leaf to have 80 points in the team's first 60 games (with Gilmour and Andreychuk) - not the three consecutive seasons with 80 points. Frankly I'm stunned at that record myself (like . . . only 3?).

I stand corrected and I agree that yes, Marner and Matthews would both have probably surpassed 80 points in 3 consecutive years about 3 years ago if not for COVID.

Yeah, in a hot market, for a "unicorn" (RD), a 3rd and a 6th is not the end of the world.

Plus we did get a prospect back, so basically we paid a 3rd or a 6th, depending on if that dude ever plays a game over here for us.

More importantly, we still have the 1st to get a better RD.

Seeing as Brodie is on an expiring contract with a M-NTC, does Brad swing big and move Brodie + 1st?

Surprisingly, nobody is talking about that as a possibility, but it's clear that Brodie isn't any better than McCabe at this point in his career, and we know the Rielly-Brodie pairing isn't good enough for a deep playoff run...
- gravyface

I think the expiring contract limits any value Brodie brings in going after a big fish. If Tre wants a top end RD (presumably with term) it’s going to be a 1st and a guy we’d rather not lose (Cowan, Minten, Topi). Either way I think the pairings shape up as

Rielly-Boosh/better Boosh
Benoit- McCabe
Brodie-Lily

Brodie needs to play on the Left side at this point. Brodie - Lily pair was really good, and is like to see more of that.

I dont see the point in moving him, unless it is for a really decent upgrade (unlikely)
- senstroll

Well, it frees up cap space and gets us something for a guy we're very unlikely to resign.

As much as McCabe-Benoit have been very good, I think something like this would be a more serviceable long-term solution to get us a bit younger and more respectable on the back end:

Rielly GuyFrom1stBrodie
McCabe Boosh/Lilly
Benoit Boosh/Lilly

Gio/Lagesson Timmins
Lajoie

meh. 2 picks for him
if there is another move, then fine what ever...still high price for a 6th D... but if thats it. dont like it
- senstroll

They have 3 5th round picks this year and 2 7th round picks, so that 6th is sort of meaningless - at least in terms of if there's anyone they want to take a swing at in the later rounds, they have 5 swings.

Next year they don't have a pick until the 5th (2 5ths, a 6th and a 7th).

I think the expiring contract limits any value Brodie brings in going after a big fish. If Tre wants a top end RD (presumably with term) it’s going to be a 1st and a guy we’d rather not lose (Cowan, Minten, Topi). Either way I think the pairings shape up as

Rielly-Boosh/better Boosh
Benoit- McCabe
Brodie-Lily
- Canada Cup

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Double Rainbow all the way!
- senstroll

his cap hit is now 687,500

I think the expiring contract limits any value Brodie brings in going after a big fish. If Tre wants a top end RD (presumably with term) it’s going to be a 1st and a guy we’d rather not lose (Cowan, Minten, Topi). Either way I think the pairings shape up as

Rielly-Boosh/better Boosh
Benoit- McCabe
Brodie-Lily
- Canada Cup

I don't think Brodie brings a ton of value on his own, but with so many bubble teams still hoping/praying (or at least the optics of either with their season ticket holders), I think teams will be interested in having a veteran minute-muncher who can play both sides.

Brodie + 1st for serviceable RD top 4 rental guy who we may resign feels even-steven to me.

Like if we didn't have McCabe, I'd be all over moving Brodie down to the second pairing, ideally on his left side, but at this point in his career, I'd take McCabe over Brodie no question.

Yeah, in a hot market, for a "unicorn" (RD), a 3rd and a 6th is not the end of the world.

Plus we did get a prospect back, so basically we paid a 3rd or a 6th, depending on if that dude ever plays a game over here for us.

More importantly, we still have the 1st to get a better RD.

Seeing as Brodie is on an expiring contract with a M-NTC, does Brad swing big and move Brodie + 1st?

Surprisingly, nobody is talking about that as a possibility, but it's clear that Brodie isn't any better than McCabe at this point in his career, and we know the Rielly-Brodie pairing isn't good enough for a deep playoff run...
- gravyface

Brodie is making like 7.5M to end his contract and he does have m-ntc.
I would keep the first for the draft.