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Santo_44
Toronto Maple Leafs
Joined: 10.20.2014

Mar 1 @ 10:39 AM ET
Canuck fans are going to lose their minds when Muzzin, Klingberg and Murray all reach full health on April 18th.

Just kidding.

Seriously though ...Leafs will have some roster juggling to do if they plan to add. They may need to create the cap space but they will definitely need to create roster space b/c once Krok is back they'll have about 25 guys.

I'd assume by the deadline we're looking at:
1. Gio and Timmy to LTIR.
2. Jarnkrok back in.
3. And one more body needs to be removed - maybe Robertson gets a month with Marlies, or Gregor (what happened to him?), Lagersson, or Jones gets waived.

And, if they make a trade they'll need to move one to add one.

- The Law



With a full roster and with 3 goalies assuming Gregor is the guy they send down or more they will have almost 2.1M in cap space once Jarnkrok is back.

If you upgrade both Robertson and Laggeson then thats 3.7M in cap space. Also have the option to go with a 22 man roster(dump Jones) and you have 4.5M in space.

Plenty of room to work with here.
Santo_44
Toronto Maple Leafs
Joined: 10.20.2014

Mar 1 @ 10:41 AM ET
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Friedman on Leafs D target (32TP): "I heard Nick Jensen was kind of a name that they were looking at"



EF again mentions Nick Jensen
Scabeh
Montreal Canadiens
Location: The Slovakian Jagr, QC
Joined: 02.25.2007

Mar 1 @ 10:42 AM ET
No?

He's a missing piece, not the missing piece, capisce?

- mjones242


Well he's THE missing piece until the Leafs make another move!
Whipper
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: GalacticStone made avi, AB
Joined: 07.04.2006

Mar 1 @ 10:43 AM ET
Lots of cap space if needed whippsie ...
- The Law

Realistically, how much are we looking at? I've lost track. Puckpedia says around $1.4M, but not sure how accurate they are.
mjones242
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Pretentious Beer Snob, ON
Joined: 06.22.2015

Mar 1 @ 10:44 AM ET
Well he's THE missing piece until the Leafs make another move!

- Scabeh

Fair!
The Law
Toronto Maple Leafs
Joined: 01.29.2008

Mar 1 @ 10:44 AM ET
Good year for defenders, kind of like 2008.
- AdamFrench


24' shaping up the same way? Looks like 5 or 6 kids with top pairing potential.

Habs will draft the one that busts though.
mjones242
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Mar 1 @ 10:44 AM ET
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Friedman on Leafs D target (32TP): "I heard Nick Jensen was kind of a name that they were looking at"



EF again mentions Nick Jensen

- Santo_44

Santo_44
Toronto Maple Leafs
Joined: 10.20.2014

Mar 1 @ 10:46 AM ET
Well he's THE missing piece until the Leafs make another move!

- Scabeh

Would Habs retain half on Savard? Only way I am interested in the Frenchman


The better question is would they retain half for the Leafs
aries1976
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: The Frustration that unites us all. , AB
Joined: 02.26.2007

Mar 1 @ 10:47 AM ET
The fact we didn’t grab Lundestrom as part of the deal tells me Tree is going after either Jenner or Kuraly
- mr.sir


Do they play defence?

Also.... what could possibly go wrong by trading for the Jackets Captain....
Symba007
Montreal Canadiens
Location: I'm bi. Why limit yourself with half of the possible delicious pleasures of life - Fredo, ON
Joined: 02.26.2007

Mar 1 @ 10:49 AM ET
Would Habs retain half on Savard? Only way I am interested in the Frenchman


The better question is would they retain half for the Leafs

- Santo_44

yes they could

but here is the catch

from Pierre Lebrun

What it means for Canadiens-Savard
If you’re looking for the next closest thing to Tanev — a right-shot, rugged blueliner with experience come playoff time — it’s David Savard in Montreal.

But as I’ve said before, the Habs aren’t committed to trading him. Just to be clear, that doesn’t mean they won’t. Based on conversations I’ve had with other front-office sources around the league, the Canadiens would need a certain bar to be met in trade offers to move him.

Savard is also signed for another year at a $3.5 million AAV, so moving him could wait for this summer. Or the Habs might want to keep him around next season, based on how important he’s been as a leader in that dressing room and the fact that they’re trying to move the program ahead in the coming year or two and don’t want to keep unloading assets.

There’s value in what Savard brings in the here and now. That’s a Habs dressing room that was absolutely dejected when Sean Monahan was moved, even though it was a slam-dunk decision by GM Kent Hughes in terms of netting a first-round pick from Winnipeg for a pending UFA with an injury history (Monahan has been great in Winnipeg).

There’s clearly a conversation happening within that Habs front office, though, about Savard’s value, both in terms of staying put and what it would take to move him. It’s a healthy debate. I think it would take a first-round pick, a young player with value equivalent to a first-round pick or multiple picks with combined value equivalent to a first.

So, a high enough price. Because the Canadiens aren’t motivated to move Savard.

But for two playoff runs, I could certainly see a contender taking a real swing before next Friday’s deadline. Especially now with Tanev gone.

Scabeh
Montreal Canadiens
Location: The Slovakian Jagr, QC
Joined: 02.25.2007

Mar 1 @ 10:49 AM ET
Would Habs retain half on Savard? Only way I am interested in the Frenchman


The better question is would they retain half for the Leafs

- Santo_44


Savard is a good piece for our rebuild, teaching our young cores how to play "the right way".

I don't think the Habs are looking to trade him. If they do AND they retain half his salary for this year and the next, doubt they do it unless a first round pick or a good prospect is involved.

They have enough picks so adding another 3rd would be useless imho.
Scabeh
Montreal Canadiens
Location: The Slovakian Jagr, QC
Joined: 02.25.2007

Mar 1 @ 10:50 AM ET
yes they could

but here is the catch

from Pierre Lebrun

What it means for Canadiens-Savard
If you’re looking for the next closest thing to Tanev — a right-shot, rugged blueliner with experience come playoff time — it’s David Savard in Montreal.

But as I’ve said before, the Habs aren’t committed to trading him. Just to be clear, that doesn’t mean they won’t. Based on conversations I’ve had with other front-office sources around the league, the Canadiens would need a certain bar to be met in trade offers to move him.

Savard is also signed for another year at a $3.5 million AAV, so moving him could wait for this summer. Or the Habs might want to keep him around next season, based on how important he’s been as a leader in that dressing room and the fact that they’re trying to move the program ahead in the coming year or two and don’t want to keep unloading assets.

There’s value in what Savard brings in the here and now. That’s a Habs dressing room that was absolutely dejected when Sean Monahan was moved, even though it was a slam-dunk decision by GM Kent Hughes in terms of netting a first-round pick from Winnipeg for a pending UFA with an injury history (Monahan has been great in Winnipeg).

There’s clearly a conversation happening within that Habs front office, though, about Savard’s value, both in terms of staying put and what it would take to move him. It’s a healthy debate. I think it would take a first-round pick, a young player with value equivalent to a first-round pick or multiple picks with combined value equivalent to a first.

So, a high enough price. Because the Canadiens aren’t motivated to move Savard.

But for two playoff runs, I could certainly see a contender taking a real swing before next Friday’s deadline. Especially now with Tanev gone.

- Symba007


Well hot damn, my take and Pierre's are alike!

WHERE'S MY JOB TSN?!?
Adam French
Atlanta Thrashers
Location: Isn't Cooley 5"11? You know who else is 5"11? Sydney Crosby. - Scabeh
Joined: 04.06.2011

Mar 1 @ 10:51 AM ET
24' shaping up the same way? Looks like 5 or 6 kids with top pairing potential.

Habs will draft the one that busts though.

- The Law

Some really interesting players for sure...and of course!
Adam French
Atlanta Thrashers
Location: Isn't Cooley 5"11? You know who else is 5"11? Sydney Crosby. - Scabeh
Joined: 04.06.2011

Mar 1 @ 10:52 AM ET
Savard is a good piece for our rebuild, teaching our young cores how to play "the right way".

I don't think the Habs are looking to trade him. If they do AND they retain half his salary for this year and the next, doubt they do it unless a first round pick or a good prospect is involved.

They have enough picks so adding another 3rd would be useless imho.

- Scabeh

Frankie Corrado on Ottawa radio said Savard to the Leafs is a match made in heaven and would play 21 minutes with Rielly.
Santo_44
Toronto Maple Leafs
Joined: 10.20.2014

Mar 1 @ 10:52 AM ET
yes they could

but here is the catch

from Pierre Lebrun

What it means for Canadiens-Savard
If you’re looking for the next closest thing to Tanev — a right-shot, rugged blueliner with experience come playoff time — it’s David Savard in Montreal.

But as I’ve said before, the Habs aren’t committed to trading him. Just to be clear, that doesn’t mean they won’t. Based on conversations I’ve had with other front-office sources around the league, the Canadiens would need a certain bar to be met in trade offers to move him.

Savard is also signed for another year at a $3.5 million AAV, so moving him could wait for this summer. Or the Habs might want to keep him around next season, based on how important he’s been as a leader in that dressing room and the fact that they’re trying to move the program ahead in the coming year or two and don’t want to keep unloading assets.

There’s value in what Savard brings in the here and now. That’s a Habs dressing room that was absolutely dejected when Sean Monahan was moved, even though it was a slam-dunk decision by GM Kent Hughes in terms of netting a first-round pick from Winnipeg for a pending UFA with an injury history (Monahan has been great in Winnipeg).

There’s clearly a conversation happening within that Habs front office, though, about Savard’s value, both in terms of staying put and what it would take to move him. It’s a healthy debate. I think it would take a first-round pick, a young player with value equivalent to a first-round pick or multiple picks with combined value equivalent to a first.

So, a high enough price. Because the Canadiens aren’t motivated to move Savard.

But for two playoff runs, I could certainly see a contender taking a real swing before next Friday’s deadline. Especially now with Tanev gone.

- Symba007


Yeah probably a high price to pay...If his contract is retained 50% I would be willing to include the 1st and some prospects not named Cowan and Minten. The top 2 prospects of any team are rarely dealt and I am sorry but Savard doesn't even come close to a name that nets that

But would be a fit, just don't care for his 3.5M cap hit on top of spending a 1st to get him. They would need to retain.
Scabeh
Montreal Canadiens
Location: The Slovakian Jagr, QC
Joined: 02.25.2007

Mar 1 @ 10:54 AM ET
Frankie Corrado on Ottawa radio said Savard to the Leafs is a match made in heaven and would play 21 minutes with Rielly.
- AdamFrench


Well he'd be a great fit for the Leafs. Been saying it for months.

But the Leafs don't want him at his full salary and the Habs will be greedy if they retain.

Not sure it happens.
dozerD10
Anaheim Ducks
Location: long beach, CA
Joined: 01.29.2014

Mar 1 @ 10:54 AM ET
Frankie Corrado on Ottawa radio said Savard to the Leafs is a match made in heaven and would play 21 minutes with Rielly.
- AdamFrench


Hughes is going to want Cowan and a 1st minimum...

Or even Knies....

I'd have to believe those are both No go for Tre.
The Law
Toronto Maple Leafs
Joined: 01.29.2008

Mar 1 @ 10:54 AM ET
Realistically, how much are we looking at? I've lost track. Puckpedia says around $1.4M, but not sure how accurate they are.
- Whipper


With current roster at 23 guys they'd have about 2.1M. If they're adding 'a new guy' then one of the current 23 is out so the 'new guy' could be $2.9Mish.

But if they needed more space then they could drop the roster to 22 ($3.7ish) or to 21 (4.5ish).

And with the possibility of retention that means cap space isn't an issue at all.
Santo_44
Toronto Maple Leafs
Joined: 10.20.2014

Mar 1 @ 10:55 AM ET
Savard is a good piece for our rebuild, teaching our young cores how to play "the right way".

I don't think the Habs are looking to trade him. If they do AND they retain half his salary for this year and the next, doubt they do it unless a first round pick or a good prospect is involved.

They have enough picks so adding another 3rd would be useless imho.

- Scabeh


Hard to turn down another 1st...Not sure if a team steps up but retaining cap would do it.

I just want the leafs to get a RHD with term that they can retain like the McCabe deal, thats my main wish with this TDL. Helps them a lot right now and next year.
Scabeh
Montreal Canadiens
Location: The Slovakian Jagr, QC
Joined: 02.25.2007

Mar 1 @ 10:55 AM ET
Hughes is going to want Cowan and a 1st minimum...

Or even Knies....

I'd have to believe those are both No go for Tre.

- dozerD10


Dude... no way the Habs get that for Savard....

Hell I think Cowan alone would be more than enough. Knies isn't even a possibility.
Santo_44
Toronto Maple Leafs
Joined: 10.20.2014

Mar 1 @ 10:58 AM ET
Dude... no way the Habs get that for Savard....

Hell I think Cowan alone would be more than enough. Knies isn't even a possibility.

- Scabeh


The trade proposals for sellers are always nutso.

You hear "1st round pick" and "CGY asked for Stankhoven" but the realty is they always get less.

Trading Cowan would be stupid right now, his stock has risen so much and he is not stopping...Makes sense to see where this kid goes the next 1-2 years. Who knows maybe you entertain trading him then but not now.
Adam French
Atlanta Thrashers
Location: Isn't Cooley 5"11? You know who else is 5"11? Sydney Crosby. - Scabeh
Joined: 04.06.2011

Mar 1 @ 10:58 AM ET
Hughes is going to want Cowan and a 1st minimum...

Or even Knies....

I'd have to believe those are both No go for Tre.

- dozerD10

Savard in his prime wasn't traded for that
senstroll
Location: Leafs AAV Champs, ON
Joined: 02.22.2008

Mar 1 @ 10:58 AM ET
ngl, saw this on twitter and made me laugh

The Coyotes have lost 14 in a row and yet they stand just two points behind the Senators


seems impossible with...trying to make the playoffs Ottawa senaturds
but ..its great!
Santo_44
Toronto Maple Leafs
Joined: 10.20.2014

Mar 1 @ 11:00 AM ET
Ty
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E:“This TOR situation is fascinating, we’ve talked about some of the D they could be interested in and what they’re going to do, but their goalie situation is fascinating… “

“if #LeafsForever puts Jones on waivers, #LetsGoFlyers will claim him”
The Law
Toronto Maple Leafs
Joined: 01.29.2008

Mar 1 @ 11:00 AM ET
Well he'd be a great fit for the Leafs. Been saying it for months.

But the Leafs don't want him at his full salary and the Habs will be greedy if they retain.

Not sure it happens.

- Scabeh


Honestly, at 3.5M, the Leafs don't need any retention. They could make that work this year and next if he's in their top 4. But even without retention he probably costs a 1st rounder and some things.
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