Thankfully it will be remote and virtual!
- AdamFrench

Will Coyotes staff still wear their matching prom outfits?

This level of optimism is adorable. Or delusional, which is also adorable!

GMs at the trade deadline are like people at an auction. I mean . . . you have the money but you shouldn't spend it, but you _can_, but you shouldn't, but if it wasn't meant to spent, why do you have it? But you shouldn't. But if that guy thinks it's worth that and you have the money and you can spend it and it's there to spend it, why wouldn't you spend it?

Any smart person can talk themselves into anything dumb. That's easy.

It's getting a dumb person to talk themselves into smart that's a challenge.
- Monkeypunk

GMs used to trade a 1st,2nd and a 3rd for Martin Hanzel.

They have gotten smarter.

Or maybe the better word is less dumb

the draft in 2025 will suck for the Leafs as they will not have a draft pick in the first 4 rounds
- dmnted

But we have Chicago's 5th round pick, which will practically be a 4th.

I'm a glass half-full kinda guy.

You kinda pushed me down an internet rabbit hole on this one.

San Jose currently sits at .302 and is trending downward.

Chicago is at .292 and I am confident they can continue to suck.

The last time two teams finished below .300 was 1995-96 - San Jose and Ottawa.
- Atomic Wedgie

Chicago wants to pair Bedard with Celebrini. San Jose needs a goddamned life preserver. I say Arizona wins the draft lottery and ruins Macklin Celebrini before he can be a star.

This level of optimism is adorable. Or delusional, which is also adorable!

GMs at the trade deadline are like people at an auction. I mean . . . you have the money but you shouldn't spend it, but you _can_, but you shouldn't, but if it wasn't meant to spent, why do you have it? But you shouldn't. But if that guy thinks it's worth that and you have the money and you can spend it and it's there to spend it, why wouldn't you spend it?

Any smart person can talk themselves into anything dumb. That's easy.

It's getting a dumb person to talk themselves into smart that's a challenge.
- Monkeypunk

You should save this post.

You can recycle it on July 1st.

But the other gm’s will be congratulating us on our cup win.
- shack67

Wins

I ASSURE YOU there will be a GM to prove you wrong here


We always say GMs get smarter but then they make Chiarot trades
- Aaron_85

Or the double double Douglas Murray trade. There's always some bullpoop with a "tough" defenseman every season

But we have Chicago's 5th round pick, which will practically be a 4th.

I'm a glass half-full kinda guy.
- Atomic Wedgie

And without Dubas, that 5th won't turn into 2 6th's and a 7th!

But the other gm’s will be congratulating us on our cup win.
- shack67

Great minds...

I always forget the second part of that saying

This level of optimism is adorable. Or delusional, which is also adorable!

GMs at the trade deadline are like people at an auction. I mean . . . you have the money but you shouldn't spend it, but you _can_, but you shouldn't, but if it wasn't meant to spent, why do you have it? But you shouldn't. But if that guy thinks it's worth that and you have the money and you can spend it and it's there to spend it, why wouldn't you spend it?

Any smart person can talk themselves into anything dumb. That's easy.

It's getting a dumb person to talk themselves into smart that's a challenge.
- Monkeypunk

Agreed. Dumb moves will keep happening. It's inevitable.

I don't want a 34 year old Savard hampering the Leafs in getting an actual good top 4 D in free agency that can help them for years.

It is they retain a good chunk of his cap hit or move on for me. Might as well just get a rental at that point, its cheaper.
- Santo_44

Oh I agree. It doesn't make sense for the Leafs unless the Habs are trying to move him and his cap hit and willing to do it at less than the premium.

Habs know they can probably move him next deadline for a 2nd and prospect as a rental. So if they like him ...they keep him until then unless its an offer better than that. It's why guys with term aren't often moved b/c teams will demand a premium over the rental prices (unless they're trying to move the contract).

I'd expect the Leafs only drop premium futures for a younger guy with term.

GMs used to trade a 1st,2nd and a 3rd for Martin Hanzel.

They have gotten smarter.

Or maybe the better word is less dumb
- Santo_44

That was 6-7 years ago, I think . . . we are not that much smarter. People were just eating horse paste to cure a virus. I'm not sure we're not collectively getting worse.

But . . . NYR traded a 1st, 2nd and 5th for Andrew Copp and the Jets also received a prospect who is a regular in their lineup in Morgan Barron.

Washington traded a 1st, a 2nd, Panik and Vrana for Anthony Mantha.

Ottawa traded Pageau for a 1st, 2nd and 3rd.

That's just in the last 3 deadlines.

Someone will do something stupid. Someone always does.

Agreed. Dumb moves will keep happening. It's inevitable.
- Scabeh

I think your GM is counting on it!

the draft in 2025 will suck for the Leafs as they will not have a draft pick in the first 4 rounds
- dmnted

between now and then, there are 2 playoffs...so will really depend what happens.
if they are again....early exits..trade players for picks...if thats what they want

Oh I agree. It doesn't make sense for the Leafs unless the Habs are trying to move him and his cap hit and willing to do it at less than the premium.

Habs know they can probably move him next deadline for a 2nd and prospect as a rental. So if they like him ...they keep him until then unless its an offer better than that. It's why guys with term aren't often moved b/c teams will demand a premium over the rental prices (unless they're trying to move the contract).

I'd expect the Leafs only drop premium futures for a younger guy with term.
- The Law

I do agree Savard likely stays...but who knows.

I just want Jensen/Mantha or Gudbranson/Kuraly all retained. I throw Savard in there because he also makes sense retained. I have done the math on cap friendly, the math works and they can keep 3 goalies and have 23 man rosters in both scenarios.

I think using that 1st to get another McCabe d is important. Going into next year with McCabe and another D capable of top 4 mins getting a combined 4M means they can go nuts and try and sign a Roy or Pesce.

Wins
- Canada Cup

Great minds...

I always forget the second part of that saying
- Whipper

Man, since he signed his big ticket, Nylander only has 28 points in 22 games. Everybody knew he was gonna fall off like that when he got paid.

I think your GM is counting on it!
- Monkeypunk

That was 6-7 years ago, I think . . . we are not that much smarter. People were just eating horse paste to cure a virus. I'm not sure we're not collectively getting worse.

But . . . NYR traded a 1st, 2nd and 5th for Andrew Copp and the Jets also received a prospect who is a regular in their lineup in Morgan Barron.

Washington traded a 1st, a 2nd, Panik and Vrana for Anthony Mantha.

Ottawa traded Pageau for a 1st, 2nd and 3rd.

That's just in the last 3 deadlines.

Someone will do something stupid. Someone always does.
- Monkeypunk

You forgot Jeannot for 111 draft picks.

Man, since he signed his big ticket, Nylander only has 28 points in 22 games. Everybody knew he was gonna fall off like that when he got paid.
- Zezel

As a Leafs fan, I'm hoping he outperforms Marner for the next 1.5 years.

Man, since he signed his big ticket, Nylander only has 28 points in 22 games. Everybody knew he was gonna fall off like that when he got paid.
- Zezel

I think we should trade him in the next week before his contract becomes and anchor... Just like his last one was.

As a Leafs fan, I'm hoping he outperforms Marner for the next 1.5 years.
- Atomic Wedgie

That would be ideal.

I don't want to just "make it work"

Might as well have just paid the price for Tanev and signed him rather than have Savard at 3.5M at 34 years old next year
- Santo_44

so youd prefer to give Tanev more than 3.5M at 34 years old?

so youd prefer to give Tanev more than 3.5M at 34 years old?
- drexel

Yes. One is not like the other.

And one will cost a 1st because "term"