I just took a peek at the rest of the schedule - not an easy one.
- Atomic Wedgie

they play Philly, Canes, Bruins, Caps and facken Buffalo twice each this month

Marner doesn’t do poop like that, Fake.

His +/- and multiple selke nominations along with being a 2X NHL first line RW’er confirms it.
- Arctic_AARDVARK

I'm not going to keep picking on you here, but being a 2x NHL first line RW doesn't mean jack with regards to doing the little things well.

Kucherov, Kane, Voracek and Perry have also won that in the last decade - Kucherov and Kane 2x as well. You know who sucks defensively? Those guys. You know who cheats on the puck? Those guys.

As for Marner not changing when he's tired - I've seen him change on occasion and more often I've seen him stay out when he was too tired to be in the play effectively. There literally does have to be assessment of whether you can contribute by being out there or not.

I certainly do not agree with all of Nylander's decisions and I do think Marner typically makes better ones when it comes to defensive responsibility - that's not something I would debate in good faith - but the reasoning behind Nylander's decisions often makes sense. The reasoning behind Marner's decisions is because "he's a good ol' Canadian boy," and that's the type of coaching we all received from the likes of Don Cherry and so on - that we're doing it right. The thing is - honestly - sometimes when we doing it right, we're doing it wrong.

Off the top of my head . . . When I was growing up, you never passed the puck back out of the offensive zone. You never passed it in front of your own net. You never skated with the puck in front of your own net. You never changed when the puck was heading back into your own zone, only when travelling up ice.

Those were edicts I was taught. All of those things have changed in the game of hockey and contradict the right way to play.

They let Arizona beat them so they can get out a 14 game losing streak
- dmnted

what a mess they are.

its great

NHL Watcher
@NHL_Watcher
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Friedman on 32TP says Tanev was intrigued with the idea of playing in Edmonton, it was something he considered and something he was willing to do, the Oilers offered a 1st RD pick with the provision they had to take a player off the Oilers roster, Calgary didn’t want to do that.



Not sure if its the owners in Conroys ear but this is brutal.

Joshua Kloke
@joshuakloke

Ilya Lyubushkin skating alongside Morgan Rielly during line rushes at Maple Leafs morning skate, suggesting he will play against the Bruins tonight.

Lyubushkin had left Saturday’s game against the Rangers with a head injury.
10:29 AM · Mar 4, 2024
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NHL Watcher
@NHL_Watcher
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Friedman on 32TP says Tanev was intrigued with the idea of playing in Edmonton, it was something he considered and something he was willing to do, the Oilers offered a 1st RD pick with the provision they had to take a player off the Oilers roster, Calgary didn’t want to do that.



Not sure if its the owners in Conroys ear but this is brutal.
- Santo_44

If the player was Jack Campbell . . . .?

The question is - are the Flames going to embrace a full rebuild, or do they think they can retool with what they have? If I'm retooling, I don't want Jack Campbell for the next 3 years.

To me it looks like a full tear down after losing Tanev, Zadorov, Hanifin, Lindholm and Markstrom along with Tkachuk and Gaudreau in the past couple of years. It's up to their ownership to do it right.

If the player was Connor Brown, then it's just paying him a $3.2m bonus at the end of the year for being awful - well, then it's buying a 1st with money you were going to spend anyway and I'd agree with you.

Joshua Kloke
@joshuakloke

Ilya Lyubushkin skating alongside Morgan Rielly during line rushes at Maple Leafs morning skate, suggesting he will play against the Bruins tonight.

Lyubushkin had left Saturday’s game against the Rangers with a head injury.
10:29 AM · Mar 4, 2024
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- Atomic Wedgie

That's encouraging.

I once hurt by back sneezing. I can't imagine what being hit by Rempe must be like.

If the player was Jack Campbell . . . .?

The question is - are the Flames going to embrace a full rebuild, or do they think they can retool with what they have? If I'm retooling, I don't want Jack Campbell for the next 3 years.

To me it looks like a full tear down after losing Tanev, Zadorov, Hanifin, Lindholm and Markstrom along with Tkachuk and Gaudreau in the past couple of years. It's up to their ownership to do it right.

If the player was Connor Brown, then it's just paying him a $3.2m bonus at the end of the year for being awful - well, then it's buying a 1st with money you were going to spend anyway and I'd agree with you.
- Monkeypunk

Ceci and Foegell have been the guys they are rumoured to be trying to unload in deals.

No chance in hell it was Jack Campbell he is unmovable.

The owner is known to not like spending money on retaining or bad contracts.

Joshua Kloke
@joshuakloke

Ilya Lyubushkin skating alongside Morgan Rielly during line rushes at Maple Leafs morning skate, suggesting he will play against the Bruins tonight.

Lyubushkin had left Saturday’s game against the Rangers with a head injury.
10:29 AM · Mar 4, 2024
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- Atomic Wedgie

Good to hear

Joshua Kloke
@joshuakloke

Ilya Lyubushkin skating alongside Morgan Rielly during line rushes at Maple Leafs morning skate, suggesting he will play against the Bruins tonight.

Lyubushkin had left Saturday’s game against the Rangers with a head injury.
10:29 AM · Mar 4, 2024
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- Atomic Wedgie

That’s great news for him.

That's encouraging.

I once hurt by back sneezing. I can't imagine what being hit by Rempe must be like.
- Monkeypunk

Lol over 40?
Tweaked my back rolling out of bed too quickly once.

Off the top of my head . . . When I was growing up, you never passed the puck back out of the offensive zone. You never passed it in front of your own net. You never skated with the puck in front of your own net. You never changed when the puck was heading back into your own zone, only when travelling up ice.

Those were edicts I was taught. All of those things have changed in the game of hockey and contradict the right way to play.
- Monkeypunk

I confess I didn't see the game Saturday night, but from the Zapruder film that AA put up here this morning, I don't really have a problem with Nylander making a change.

3 on 3 hockey is totally different from 5 on 5. The risk/reward ratio is out of whack - there's a lot more risk.

I don't know what happened on the play before the Rangers brought it back, but if Willy was going in for a scoring chance, great. And then if the puck is coming back 3 on 2, we want him to get off and get fresh legs. The worst thing he could do is stay on the ice, and have the Rangers rag the puck in our end for two minutes, get changes, and score on 2 tired guys and an exhausted Willy.

Ceci and Foegell have been the guys they are rumoured to be trying to unload in deals.

No chance in hell it was Jack Campbell he is unmovable.

The owner is known to not like spending money on retaining or bad contracts.
- Santo_44

Probably Ceci or Kulak.

If the player was Jack Campbell . . . .?
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- Monkeypunk

They said "Oilers' roster."

I confess I didn't see the game Saturday night, but from the Zapruder film that AA put up here this morning, I don't really have a problem with Nylander making a change.

3 on 3 hockey is totally different from 5 on 5. The risk/reward ratio is out of whack - there's a lot more risk.

I don't know what happened on the play before the Rangers brought it back, but if Willy was going in for a scoring chance, great. And then if the puck is coming back 3 on 2, we want him to get off and get fresh legs. The worst thing he could do is stay on the ice, and have the Rangers rag the puck in our end for two minutes, get changes, and score on 2 tired guys and an exhausted Willy.
- Atomic Wedgie

I watched and 88 was juiced. He was useless if he stayed out. The real complaint is probably that he had stayed out that long. Leaf's stars are always guilty of taking long shifts in OT. 34 made the same mistake a few times in OT. He was gassed ....then floated. It was an ugly 5 minutes.

Great.
It was Saturday, today is Monday.
Playing boston tonight, moving on.
- Fakepartofme

Imagine if Marner did that lmfao.

Just pointing out the obvious hypocrisy.

I confess I didn't see the game Saturday night, but from the Zapruder film that AA put up here this morning, I don't really have a problem with Nylander making a change.

3 on 3 hockey is totally different from 5 on 5. The risk/reward ratio is out of whack - there's a lot more risk.

I don't know what happened on the play before the Rangers brought it back, but if Willy was going in for a scoring chance, great. And then if the puck is coming back 3 on 2, we want him to get off and get fresh legs. The worst thing he could do is stay on the ice, and have the Rangers rag the puck in our end for two minutes, get changes, and score on 2 tired guys and an exhausted Willy.
- Atomic Wedgie

We’re going to wait to hear what Hayes and Odog say.

And we all know what they’ll say.

Don't mistake relevance for anger.

Leafs drama is what stirs the NHL Drink.
- The Law

The excuses so far:

He doesn’t make 11.5M yet (my fav)
Maybe the bench signalled him to come off?
He was tired!
3-on-3 is different
His man was on the off side
He wouldn’t have made a difference (probably true )
Marner blah blah blah

Truly incredible how far you guys will reach to protect Willy’s reputation.

If the player was Jack Campbell . . . .?

The question is - are the Flames going to embrace a full rebuild, or do they think they can retool with what they have? If I'm retooling, I don't want Jack Campbell for the next 3 years.

To me it looks like a full tear down after losing Tanev, Zadorov, Hanifin, Lindholm and Markstrom along with Tkachuk and Gaudreau in the past couple of years. It's up to their ownership to do it right.

If the player was Connor Brown, then it's just paying him a $3.2m bonus at the end of the year for being awful - well, then it's buying a 1st with money you were going to spend anyway and I'd agree with you.
- Monkeypunk

Who loves a partial rebuild in CGY? Habs fans....Habs have their first next year if it's not a top 10 (they get Florida's 1st then).

The excuses so far:

He doesn’t make 11.5M yet (my fav)
Maybe the bench signalled him to come off?
He was tired!
3-on-3 is different
His man was on the off side
He wouldn’t have made a difference (probably true )
Marner blah blah blah

Truly incredible how far you guys will reach to protect Willy’s reputation.
- Arctic_AARDVARK

My favourite thing about talking with you is how useless it is since you don't actually discuss anything. You just dismiss everything you don't want to hear. You're pretending to have hockey conversations but really you're just standing on a soap box yelling about how angry you are.

I confess I didn't see the game Saturday night, but from the Zapruder film that AA put up here this morning, I don't really have a problem with Nylander making a change.

3 on 3 hockey is totally different from 5 on 5. The risk/reward ratio is out of whack - there's a lot more risk.

I don't know what happened on the play before the Rangers brought it back, but if Willy was going in for a scoring chance, great. And then if the puck is coming back 3 on 2, we want him to get off and get fresh legs. The worst thing he could do is stay on the ice, and have the Rangers rag the puck in our end for two minutes, get changes, and score on 2 tired guys and an exhausted Willy.
- Atomic Wedgie

Nylander gets on around 4:20 or so of OT - Nylander gets it and carries in to the Rangers zone - cuts to the net, but flubs the puck, but manages to retain, comes around feeds Jarnkrok in the slot, but it deflects off of Miller's stick and out for a faceoff - about 15-20 seconds after the shift had started. The puck makes its way back out to the neutral zone, one more zone rush from Willy that doesn't pan out, and NYR are on the way back into our zone - the Leafs retreat and defend the zone in position and the Rangers pull back out to the neutral zone - Willy tracks as the high forward to centre - his shift is now about a minute long - and he changes. As he skates towards the bench, the Rangers have regrouped and make their move down the left side - pass down low, pass up high, pass back down low for the one-timer and a goddamned brilliant save by Sammy. The right-side guy, who was Nylander's man, was undefended the whole time because on the change Matthews had not made it back into the play yet.

Optically it looks bad. Pragmatically, I'm not sure Willy was giving anything more that shift anyway.

My favourite thing about talking with you is how useless it is since you don't actually discuss anything. You just dismiss everything you don't want to hear. You're pretending to have hockey conversations but really you're just standing on a soap box yelling about how angry you are.
- Monkeypunk

I don’t think it’s anger. It’s just attention seeking. This all started with “why are you talking about Renke hit? Talk about my stuff.”

Nice to see Lyubushkin is going to be back for tonight

The excuses so far:

He doesn’t make 11.5M yet (my fav)
Maybe the bench signalled him to come off?
He was tired!
3-on-3 is different
His man was on the off side
He wouldn’t have made a difference (probably true )
Marner blah blah blah

Truly incredible how far you guys will reach to protect Willy’s reputation.
- Arctic_AARDVARK

He’s a decent price to the end of the year. Starting next summer he gets the M&M judgement.