Is Bruce Boudreau available? Not a big fan of coaching changes but it's time to start thinking about it if we lose any other game in the next week.
- Barnaby36

It doesn't matter who's available, Sully has a pass. Really think Dubas' hands are tied by ownership. The coaching change should have happened over a month ago...in some minds around here years ago haha

How is that team "way" better than the Pens this season? is it their -12 goal differential to the Pens +8? Is it their 2 more standings points than the Pens with 2 more games played? Is it their 17th ranked PK to the Pens 6th ranked PK?

Oh look at that their PP is 14th and the Pens is 29th. You flip those two around and the Devils are probably close to dead last in the league and the Pens are in a playoff spot.

Yes, the players have blame about the PP as well. Not a single person around here has ever said different that I can recall. Its really perplexing though, because those same players have been anywhere from good to great at 5 on 5.
- MattStrat

But the penguins have the "core" together and 2 cup sullivan. Oh and EK the 10 mil dollar man with his 8 goals. So by that then san jose IS the better team also if EK had 101 points on a Crappy san jose team last season, why does he only have 8 goals and 43 points this season with the "3 best players in the world"? (sarcasm).. Right?

Dude. Just face it man. The blackhawk affect is already happening. Come down to reality already and quit blaming PP as there failure.

How is that team "way" better than the Pens this season? is it their -12 goal differential to the Pens +8? Is it their 2 more standings points than the Pens with 2 more games played? Is it their 17th ranked PK to the Pens 6th ranked PK?

Oh look at that their PP is 14th and the Pens is 29th. You flip those two around and the Devils are probably close to dead last in the league and the Pens are in a playoff spot.

Yes, the players have blame about the PP as well. Not a single person around here has ever said different that I can recall. It’s really perplexing though, because those same players have been anywhere from good to great at 5 on 5.
- MattStrat

Fire Karlson for completely ruining the PP? Or maybe just take him off the PP. honestly if Jeff Petry just fired bombs from the top of the umbrella all season the Pens might be in a playoff spot.

But the penguins have the "core" together and 2 cup sullivan. Oh and EK the 10 mil dollar man with his 8 goals. So by that then san jose IS the better team also if EK had 101 points on a Crappy san jose team last season, why does he only have 8 goals and 43 points this season with the "3 best players in the world"? (sarcasm).. Right?
- jb55

I can't understand where you get half the sh!t you say from. Your takes are some of the absolute worst we've seen around here in some.

He's on pace to be one of only 4 Pens defenders to have over 60 points in a season in the past 25 years in his first season in brand new system that's asking him to be a lot more defensive minded...and is having arguably his best defensive season of career on top of being on pace for 60+ points. In San Jose he didnt have a leash at all, was just running wild, however Sully has put one on him with the Pens...for better or worse.

You didnt answer how the Devils are a way better team this season.

Fire Karlson for completely ruining the PP? Or maybe just take him off the PP. honestly if Jeff Petry just fired bombs from the top of the umbrella all season the Pens might be in a playoff spot.
- Grinder47

I thought when they split up the PP units it looked better for the most part. Problem is now you have both Jake and Rust out, 2 important PP guys.

It doesn't matter who's available, Sully has a pass. Really think Dubas' hands are tied by ownership. The coaching change should have happened over a month ago...in some minds around here years ago haha
- MattStrat

I'd rather do a rebuild with the penguins and have the record they have now, then watch what's going on "or not going on" on the ice this entire sesaon.

This "team" lost 6-1 to edmonton..In calgary did you see kadri's goal? 1 player just went through 5 players with ease and absolutely no one touched him or engaged him at all? Talk about giving up, and you like this crap on ice? Embarrassing

I'd rather watch a team on a rebuild then this, at least they would put there heart into it and try to win and play in the NHL.

I'd rather do a rebuild with the penguins and have the record they have now, then watch what's going on "or not going on" on the ice this entire sesaon.

This "team" lost 6-1 to edmonton..In calgary did you see kadri's goal? 1 player just went through 5 players with ease and absolutely no one touched him or engaged him at all? Talk about giving up, and you like this crap on ice? Embarrassing

I'd rather watch a team on a rebuild then this, at least they would put there heart into it and try to win and play in the NHL.
- jb55

Yeah I don’t want to see greats die on a bad team. I’d rather see Crosby in co at this point.

I'd rather do a rebuild with the penguins and have the record they have now, then watch what's going on "or not going on" on the ice this entire sesaon.

This "team" lost 6-1 to edmonton..In calgary did you see kadri's goal? 1 player just went through 5 players with ease and absolutely no one touched him or engaged him at all? Talk about giving up, and you like this crap on ice? Embarrassing

I'd rather watch a team on a rebuild then this, at least they would put there heart into it and try to win and play in the NHL.
- jb55

The Kadri goal is on Letang, nobody else. I can see where you want to put blame on Acciari as he didn't play him well and Kadri got around him fairly easily. Acciari's job is not to get beat to the inside. He did that.

The bigger point is Letang had position on Kadri, forced him wide and on his backhand. Any defenseman at any level, let alone an NHL defenseman cannot allow the skater to beat him clean to the inside. It's basic one on one defense and you know it.

Also, it was four on four, not that it matters much, but Kadri did have more space than if both teams were full strength.

Matthew Phillips has been placed on waivers so he can train and prep as a Kentucky Derby jockey.

Matthew Phillips has been placed on waivers so he can train and prep as a Kentucky Derby jockey.
- sufi-judge

I thought he was decent for us in his short stint. He definitely deserved a jersey over Harkins.

Nylander not succeeding is more on Sullivan than Dubas. Guy destroys / never lets young offensive guys build confidence.
- abasin

Nylander didn't succeed because he's not a good player. He's motivated right now due to the trade and may keep that up for a bit longer, but then he'll fade back into the player he's always been: physically talented but mentally not dialed in.

He's like Kapi 2.0. Kap went to St Louis and lit it up after the TDL last year, but only has 4 goals in 53 games this year, because that's who he is as a player.

Nylander didn't succeed because he's not a good player. He's motivated right now due to the trade and may keep that up for a bit longer, but then he'll fade back into the player he's always been: physically talented but mentally not dialed in.

He's like Kapi 2.0. Kap went to St Louis and lit it up after the TDL last year, but only has 4 goals in 53 games this year, because that's who he is as a player.
- MickV

Good call.

The Kadri goal is on Letang, nobody else. I can see where you want to put blame on Acciari as he didn't play him well and Kadri got around him fairly easily. Acciari's job is not to get beat to the inside. He did that.

The bigger point is Letang had position on Kadri, forced him wide and on his backhand. Any defenseman at any level, let alone an NHL defenseman cannot allow the skater to beat him clean to the inside. It's basic one on one defense and you know it.

Also, it was four on four, not that it matters much, but Kadri did have more space than if both teams were full strength.
- Thunderbolt

I see what you are saying, BUT kadri actually loses the puck and retrieves it like nothing and not 1 penguins player flinched at all? No disrespect to kadri but he isn't know mackinnon or macdavid. I suddenly hungry for a mcdonalds bic mac.

Matthew Phillips has been placed on waivers so he can train and prep as a Kentucky Derby jockey.
- sufi-judge

LOL..Good one.

I can't understand where you get half the sh!t you say from. Your takes are some of the absolute worst we've seen around here in some.

He's on pace to be one of only 4 Pens defenders to have over 60 points in a season in the past 25 years in his first season in brand new system that's asking him to be a lot more defensive minded...and is having arguably his best defensive season of career on top of being on pace for 60+ points. In San Jose he didnt have a leash at all, was just running wild, however Sully has put one on him with the Pens...for better or worse.

You didnt answer how the Devils are a way better team this season.
- MattStrat

WE"VE??? Are you the hockeybuzz guru on this site? Why read what you don't like? IF you don't like what I say, DON"T READ... Do you know how to scroll down? Just wondering? This is a team sport not one player sport. (sport)..So it seems you like some other pens fans only care about awards medals and trophy's I assume? I like to watch hockey for the stanley cup. Hurray for karlsson, but the penguins suck. Enjoy watching your stud karlsson, while I watch this team keep getting worse every game and not firing 2 cup sullivan. (Sport)

Truth Hurts..

Nylander didn't succeed because he's not a good player. He's motivated right now due to the trade and may keep that up for a bit longer, but then he'll fade back into the player he's always been: physically talented but mentally not dialed in.

He's like Kapi 2.0. Kap went to St Louis and lit it up after the TDL last year, but only has 4 goals in 53 games this year, because that's who he is as a player.
- MickV

That said Bemström > Nylander. No doubt.

WE"VE??? Are you the hockeybuzz guru on this site? Why read what you don't like? IF you don't like what I say, DON"T READ... Do you know how to scroll down? Just wondering? This is a team sport not one player sport. (sport)..So it seems you like some other pens fans only care about awards medals and trophy's I assume? I like to watch hockey for the stanley cup. Hurray for karlsson, but the penguins suck. Enjoy watching your stud karlsson, while I watch this team keep getting worse every game and not firing 2 cup sullivan. (Sport)

Truth Hurts..
- jb55

Perhaps you should take your own advice? Only one of us seems to be negatively impacted from reading things here haha and why would you expect to post and make comments and people not respond? How do I know I dont like it unless I read it? Its not so much about liking or not, its about agreeing or not hahah and this is an open discussion form. Get over it.

You are non-stop assuming false sh!t. It's wild stuff.

It doesn't matter who's available, Sully has a pass. Really think Dubas' hands are tied by ownership. The coaching change should have happened over a month ago...in some minds around here years ago haha
- MattStrat

Do you think ownership is protecting the entire coaching staff then and not just Sullivan? I honestly think Dubas was doubling down everything he said and did would work out like he hoped and it never did. I can see ownership maybe protecting Sullivan but hard to see them protecting Reirden, Hennes and Vellucci. Or at the very ;east why arent those 3 gone?

Do you think ownership is protecting the entire coaching staff then and not just Sullivan? I honestly think Dubas was doubling down everything he said and did would work out like he hoped and it never did. I can see ownership maybe protecting Sullivan but hard to see them protecting Reirden, Hennes and Vellucci. Or at the very ;east why arent those 3 gone?
- pens4life-66

Yeah, someone said yesterday they could see all the assistants being axed in the summer like they were several years back but Sully still staying. I agree with that, can totally see that happening.

It would be hilarious if nylander gets a ppg or gwg tonight.

It would be hilarious if nylander gets a ppg or gwg tonight.
- sammy87

hahah he's definitely scoring tonight. Book it.

So now Dubas created the whole team and it's his fault? Can't have it both ways. What about all the guys who were here who aren't performing well?

The supporting cast isn't living up to their end of the bargain. Happens. Too bad the rope is getting shorter for the core to compete.
- Aaron_85

What do you mean? The comment I responded to was "I think my favourite part is Dubas is done a poop job but also saying Karlsson playing well/out performing his contract this year. Considering Dubas made the low cost trade to acquire him."

Was your comment not a dig at Karlsson? If it wasn't then I misunderstood. But I definitely agree that the supporting cast is not living up to their end of the bargain, Rakell, Smith, Graves, most of the bottom 6 -- Dubas roster construction of making a defense only bottom 6 was a poor decision considering when the PP and top 6 goes dry, there is literally no one to pick up the slack.

If your comment was more at the Dubas doing a poop job, he acquired like 9 guys and only 1 of them is playing well -- I think that qualifies as his job being done poorly, no?

So the cup champion, who was a big part of the win, Smith wasn't a good move? It for sure was. Not Dubas fault the guy hasn't played well. My point is, it's not the Gms fault when a player doesn't play up to his own expectations. Especially vets that have a history of doing well.

You can't exclude Karlsson and blame Dubas. 1. as you said, he had to get rid of Hextall's bad contracts and it was accomplished while bringing in a great talent.
2. He brought in a supporting cast with some history of playing their roles. Not Dubas fault they haven't done so.
3. We can likely agree a coaching change is needed.

He's done more positive than negative for the penguins in 7 months. He also drafted what looks to be a good kid, no?
- Aaron_85

The (frank) you can't lol, what kind of horse poop is this? lol you can easily say that most of his moves didn't work out but two of them (EK and Ned) did, actually 3, I'll throw Eller in there. But Smith, Neito, Acciari, Harkens, Graves, all the waiver wire bs, that poop didn't work. Building a bottom 6 that can't score didn't work, acquiring EK was still a good move.

It would be hilarious if nylander gets a ppg or gwg tonight.
- sammy87

I hope so, ideally in regulation. Play like weenies for Celebrini??? We've been doing it the better part of the year...

Nylander didn't succeed because he's not a good player. He's motivated right now due to the trade and may keep that up for a bit longer, but then he'll fade back into the player he's always been: physically talented but mentally not dialed in.

He's like Kapi 2.0. Kap went to St Louis and lit it up after the TDL last year, but only has 4 goals in 53 games this year, because that's who he is as a player.
- MickV

Right. Nylander had enough opportunity here. He'd have a nice shift or two, then disappear. He went entire games where you didn't even know he was playing. If he had the motor like DOC, he'd still be in Buffalo.