The one thing I do hate is the revenue sharing garbage. It looks stupid, to see teams in non traditional markets surviving on the top 7 teams to make payroll every week. We have NHL teams selling tickets for less than the cost of an OHL/CHL team and having teams like the Leafs, Rangers and Habs paying a big chunk of their operating costs. It gaul's me to see Arizona still operating, after 2 decades and playing in an AHL caliber rink, yet they look at moving the Winnipeg Jets because they don't have sellouts. Then there's the Quebec Nordiques snub for an expansion team. Let's put another team in Atlanta, where it failed twice and ended up moving their franchises to Canada. It's time that the Manhattan Midget should leave his position as Commissioner of the NHL and get a real live hockey man running the league. 31 years without a Canadian team winning the Stanley Cup his disgraceful.
- PrinceLH

Revenue sharing is a part of every successful industry. It usually allows the wealthy to benefit from the rules. Only in the NHL do you get to share your money for the privilege of not having any of the rules favour you in any meaningful way.

“Nick Robertson isn't in the #Marlies lineup for their school day game against the Belleville Senators.

He was loaned to AHL Toronto on Saturday to make room for Calle Jarnkrok's return to the Maple Leafs' lineup.”

It's fun to fantasize though.

Muzzin takes a radical new experimental therapy and regains 100% of his peak form. And he does it in full Ducherov style with no caphit in the playoffs.

Murray has been secretly working out for months and is almost ready to go, full Ducherov style.

Leafs head into the postseason with a free upgrade on defense and in goal. They win the Cup while being millions over the cap. The league immediately has a poopfit because it's Toronto doing it and they change the LTIR rules on the spot.
- GalacticStone

Actually the league doesn’t mind hence the all star game in Toronto this year. All because they have the league’s best American born player

https://open.spotify.com/...si=wYSugSXuQqCzBey8FW1G3g

Pablum of the year!

“Nick Robertson isn't in the #Marlies lineup for their school day game against the Belleville Senators.

He was loaned to AHL Toronto on Saturday to make room for Calle Jarnkrok's return to the Maple Leafs' lineup.”
- Santo_44

Robertson for Crosby is heating UP!

I miss Garnie, and a whack of other guys that used to frequent these boards.

Dumb, selfish, OCD (frank)s done chased them away.
- Woderwick

Ya the constant leftist politics definitely drove a lot of posters away.

Robertson for Crosby is heating UP!
- Archaic

To Dallas for Dellandrea

As it was foretold…..

If they plan to keep Lilly they better plan to either pay him $3ish on a 1 yr deal or $4+ on a 4 or 5 year deal.

I don't love either option for a guy that hasn't taken control of a top spot on a team that's been dying for a top 4 RHD.
- The Law

Was it just me, or did Lilly look a little scared in that Bruins game? Not sure if it was physically motivated or mistake motivated due to the Bruins tempo.

Ya the constant leftist politics definitely drove a lot of posters away.
- Strider

When it comes to these boards the righties are no better. Routinely delete posts supporting either side. Not a topic meant for this site.

To be extra extra clear ...when I said "not suggesting they fixed" ....I meant that I'm not suggesting any shenanigans. I'm not a (frank)ing doctor and I didn't stay in a Holiday Inn last night.

But, the current system, creates this scenario ..and certainly gives incentives to all teams to play things out that way if there's an opportunity.
- The Law

Don't forget this is the league that hired Pronger into the NHL offices while he was still under contract with a team. Yes he was done in his career but come on...at least pretend the team isn't just using his cap for LTIR relief.

They know what teams do and don't really care.
- Aaron_85

I never really found the Pronger hiring to be problematic - like he was done, done. The LTIR was really just so he could collect the last of his salary rather than retire.

Really if the conditions of his injury didn't make it such that the insurance company covering his contract had a complaint (assuming his contract was insured), then it didn't matter. Living in LTIR is not where a team wants to be. It's a tool that is only useful if the player on LTIR is coming back and can be effective in the playoffs - like Stone, Kucherov, Kane, and so on - allowing you to maximize your cap space by filling the injury.

There is some condition, for instance, that having a player on LTIR to begin the year is even more limiting than having a player go on LTIR later in the year. I was reading the article, but honestly it was a bit convoluted - even for me, and I'm a dork.

“Nick Robertson isn't in the #Marlies lineup for their school day game against the Belleville Senators.

He was loaned to AHL Toronto on Saturday to make room for Calle Jarnkrok's return to the Maple Leafs' lineup.”
- Santo_44

Yeah, coming out and saying he's not happy in Toronto (I don't know if that was out of context or overblown, so I'm not sure about the comment) likely puts him on a train out of town, if it was what he meant.

Almost as stupid as some people feeling it's their duty to get up on on a soapbox and reply with the same "nothing will change until the CBA is opened up no matter what any of us think about it" routine every single time someone even mentions that it's a stupid loophole.



- Cush29

Lol. Sorry for pointing out that they can’t easily and may not want to make the change that they are so stupid for not making.

Was it just me, or did Lilly look a little scared in that Bruins game? Not sure if it was physically motivated or mistake motivated due to the Bruins tempo.
- Woderwick

He did. He didn't engage physically and was rushing his passes. He's had enough years in the Leafs organization and he is what he is and that will be his career. He's a bottom pair defenseman at best and isn't worth what he's being paid now. If Treliving is smart, he uses him as a trade chip this year and package him and Robertson for a top 4 right shot defenseman. We are seeing what Kyle Dubas wrought, by drafting smaller players. The analytics were good in Junior, but once they're introduced to the big leagues, they're not as amicable to the NHL caliber of hockey. Treliving has one chance to put his stamp on this team and two assets that can be moved. But does he do it?

Was it just me, or did Lilly look a little scared in that Bruins game? Not sure if it was physically motivated or mistake motivated due to the Bruins tempo.
- Woderwick

To his credit ...he took it on the chin in the post game. He said he just wasn't back into "game" mode and needs to be better.

Noting that amendments to the CBA are made rather frequently, so their concern about opening the CBA feels more like optical bullpoop.

I would say that the solution isn't as simple as, "Just don't allow it!" because injuries DO happen, players get hurt, players play hurt, players heal, players get hurt in the playoffs and need to be replaced . . . Does a player need to play a certain number of games to qualify? Would a baseball like, "This is my 25 man roster for this round of the playoffs" work? It would all have to be explored - and that could affect how the players feel about it - but overwhelmingly most players are playing in the playoffs and they aren't paid in the playoffs, so as long as they get their money in the regular season the machinations a team goes through on the business side of the playoffs is the team's problem.
- Monkeypunk

I agree that they can easily make changes that both sides want made. This one might be trickier though. I also agree that one of the rationales for not imposing the cap during the playoffs is that players aren’t actually paid for the playoffs. It’s not hard to see that the PA would look for some benefit coming back to the players if these kinds of changes are put on the table.

Yeah, coming out and saying he's not happy in Toronto (I don't know if that was out of context or overblown, so I'm not sure about the comment) likely puts him on a train out of town, if it was what he meant.
- Monkeypunk

I missed that. Robertson just said that recently?

I never really found the Pronger hiring to be problematic - like he was done, done. The LTIR was really just so he could collect the last of his salary rather than retire.

Really if the conditions of his injury didn't make it such that the insurance company covering his contract had a complaint (assuming his contract was insured), then it didn't matter. Living in LTIR is not where a team wants to be. It's a tool that is only useful if the player on LTIR is coming back and can be effective in the playoffs - like Stone, Kucherov, Kane, and so on - allowing you to maximize your cap space by filling the injury.

There is some condition, for instance, that having a player on LTIR to begin the year is even more limiting than having a player go on LTIR later in the year. I was reading the article, but honestly it was a bit convoluted - even for me, and I'm a dork.
- Monkeypunk

Or in the case of Pronger, it was useful for the Coyotes to help them make the salary floor - without having to actually pay out.

Which was completely franking embarassing to the NHL - in other words, Tuesday.

Yeah, coming out and saying he's not happy in Toronto (I don't know if that was out of context or overblown, so I'm not sure about the comment) likely puts him on a train out of town, if it was what he meant.
- Monkeypunk

Like “I’m not happy about my play in Toronto”, kind of context?
If it’s the other context - (frank) off then. He isn’t going to amount to much in the NHL other than being, “a guy”.

And for Gustafsson.
That was a great trade, i guess for both teams.
- Fakepartofme

This is the one that just pisses me off. The acquire Gustafsson - play him 9 out of a possible 22 games - and hardly play him when he is there. In those 9 games they played him with Liljegren, Schenn, Rielly and Giordano - on the left and right side. Keefe had no bloody clue what to do with him.

So in the offseason, when discussing with the new GM what they needed - somehow a "Gustafsson-like" player was what they concluded they were missing? It must have been because they gave Klingberg $4.1m. I mean if Keefe said that to me and I was the new GM, I'd have been inclined to fire him on the spot!

3.3M for Seeler and 4.8M for Sandin...Man Paraykos contract isn't looking too bad

What does Lily get? The stats tell us he is better than Sandin, and it isn't very close.

Yeah, coming out and saying he's not happy in Toronto (I don't know if that was out of context or overblown, so I'm not sure about the comment) likely puts him on a train out of town, if it was what he meant.
- Monkeypunk

Hadn't heard that ....Nickie complained about the demotion?

So what you're saying is that Robertson, Lilly, 1st for Larsson and Wennberg is on.

I miss Garnie, and a whack of other guys that used to frequent these boards.

Dumb, selfish, OCD (frank)s done chased them away.
- Woderwick

same here, woder

This is the one that just pisses me off. The acquire Gustafsson - play him 9 out of a possible 22 games - and hardly play him when he is there. In those 9 games they played him with Liljegren, Schenn, Rielly and Giordano - on the left and right side. Keefe had no bloody clue what to do with him.

So in the offseason, when discussing with the new GM what they needed - somehow a "Gustafsson-like" player was what they concluded they were missing? It must have been because they gave Klingberg $4.1m. I mean if Keefe said that to me and I was the new GM, I'd have been inclined to fire him on the spot!
- Monkeypunk

Yeah, I would have taken the 1st and 3rd...

and used that 3rd for a depth forward that they needed more than Gus.

To be extra extra clear ...when I said "not suggesting they fixed" ....I meant that I'm not suggesting any shenanigans. I'm not a (frank)ing doctor and I didn't stay in a Holiday Inn last night.

But, the current system, creates this scenario ..and certainly gives incentives to all teams to play things out that way if there's an opportunity.
- The Law

Yep, and under this system the league would have to challenge the doctors that are caring for the players. Kucherov’s surgery was done by the top hip guy in the country who was also team doctor for the Rangers (hard to argue collusion). The league said they investigated which would have meant reviewing his reports, X-rays, etc. I can’t imagine a scenario where they come out and contradict the doc and tell the guy to play