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Canada Cup
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: This world is just a veil and the face you wear is not your own., ON
Joined: 07.06.2007

Mar 6 @ 12:03 PM ET
I never said it was something that was easily done, nor did I ever say the league wanted to change it, perhaps you missed that when you ran to get your soapbox.

The fact that others have carried on the conversation about it being stupid and something the league should/could change should tell you something........

- Cush29

No, you just said it’s so stupid they haven’t done it and I pointed out some reasons why they haven’t. No soapboxes involved
Santo_44
Toronto Maple Leafs
Joined: 10.20.2014

Mar 6 @ 12:10 PM ET
3rd and 4th

3rd if Florida wins the cup

Man the Sens franchise is so (frank)ing bad
The Law
Toronto Maple Leafs
Joined: 01.29.2008

Mar 6 @ 12:12 PM ET
4 picks in the top 3 rounds over the next 3 years.
Moves may be limited for the leafs

What did Florida give up? A 3rd and a prospect?
Edit: looks like its 2 draft picks.

- Fakepartofme


FLA, Bos and TBay with similarly bare cupboards.

Curious to see what Tarasenko cost. I'd think Henrique and Wennberg might be similar - guys I hope the Leafs are looking at.
The Law
Toronto Maple Leafs
Joined: 01.29.2008

Mar 6 @ 12:13 PM ET
3rd and 4th

3rd if Florida wins the cup

Man the Sens franchise is so (frank)ing bad

- Santo_44


3rd and 4th ...AND they retained 50%? That's all he cost?
dozerD10
Anaheim Ducks
Location: long beach, CA
Joined: 01.29.2014

Mar 6 @ 12:14 PM ET
Nothing in his play warrants giving up in the guy. Only move him if he brings significant trade value (not likely) or if they think he’s going to be a problem when he hits RFA status
- Canada Cup



Him and the 1st to Ott for Chickrin -
Santo_44
Toronto Maple Leafs
Joined: 10.20.2014

Mar 6 @ 12:15 PM ET
3rd and 4th ...AND they retained 50%? That's all he cost?
- The Law


Chris Johnston said his NTC played a part in the low return
Fakepartofme
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Living rent free... in your head, ON
Joined: 09.20.2010

Mar 6 @ 12:15 PM ET
Hope they gave a lot up for him, never really thought of him as a needle mover the past few years
- Santo_44

Nice secondary scoring add.
He's a 0.85ppg since 2020/21, a little slower in the foot speed but definitely could a move the needle type player
Looks like 2 draft picks
Fakepartofme
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Living rent free... in your head, ON
Joined: 09.20.2010

Mar 6 @ 12:16 PM ET
3rd and 4th ...AND they retained 50%? That's all he cost?
- The Law

Thats it?
Wtf.
senstroll
Location: Leafs AAV Champs, ON
Joined: 02.22.2008

Mar 6 @ 12:16 PM ET
FLA, Bos and TBay with similarly bare cupboards.

Curious to see what Tarasenko cost. I'd think Henrique and Wennberg might be similar - guys I hope the Leafs are looking at.

- The Law


3rd and 4th for Tarasenko with 50% retained
for a rental

both Henrique and Wennberg are UFA

See if Lars eller is cheaper, get him 1 more season.

3rd or a 4th for Eller and 1st for Chickrun
easy peasy
Fakepartofme
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Living rent free... in your head, ON
Joined: 09.20.2010

Mar 6 @ 12:19 PM ET
FLA, Bos and TBay with similarly bare cupboards.

Curious to see what Tarasenko cost. I'd think Henrique and Wennberg might be similar - guys I hope the Leafs are looking at.

- The Law

Tbay has two cups recently, fla a recent cup finals visit. Dont really care about boston. Either way, im not concerned with their cupboards.

Looks like a 3rd and 4th with salary retained?
A steal
The Law
Toronto Maple Leafs
Joined: 01.29.2008

Mar 6 @ 12:21 PM ET
Chris Johnston said his NTC played a part in the low return
- Santo_44


ah ya, that makes sense.
Aaron_85
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Toronto, ON
Joined: 04.22.2014

Mar 6 @ 12:27 PM ET
Tbay has two cups recently, fla a recent cup finals visit. Dont really care about boston. Either way, im not concerned with their cupboards.

Looks like a 3rd and 4th with salary retained?
A steal

- Fakepartofme


Only a steal if they resign him or win though. Otherwise the picks are better suited building the cupboards back up.
paulozz
Season Ticket Holder
Joined: 07.02.2012

Mar 6 @ 12:28 PM ET
good get for the Panthers

everyone has to remember the "get" for a pending UFA (without trade & sign)
the value nowadays will be in the "meh" range unless the pending ufa is
a top line "star" player in the league....Leafs need to get a couple of these types
too.....bottom line its advantage buyers in the pending ufa market
Fakepartofme
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Living rent free... in your head, ON
Joined: 09.20.2010

Mar 6 @ 12:31 PM ET
Only a steal if they resign him or win though. Otherwise the picks are better suited building the cupboards back up.
- Aaron_85

Ffs. Its a 3rd and 4th, neither are high picks or high end prospects. Which is what i was talking about

Go whine elsewhere
Santo_44
Toronto Maple Leafs
Joined: 10.20.2014

Mar 6 @ 12:31 PM ET
Only a steal if they resign him or win though. Otherwise the picks are better suited building the cupboards back up.
- Aaron_85

And what if those prospects don't help you win a cup? Or do anything?
Canada Cup
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: This world is just a veil and the face you wear is not your own., ON
Joined: 07.06.2007

Mar 6 @ 12:31 PM ET
ah ya, that makes sense.
- The Law

Anybody who really, really wants to be a Leaf?
Monkeypunk
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Whenever, wherever, ON
Joined: 06.27.2013

Mar 6 @ 12:32 PM ET
ah ya, that makes sense.
- The Law


Still. A year ago Tarasenko (with Mikkola) went for a 1st, a 3rd, Blais and B-C prospect.

Now he goes for a 3rd & 4th with retention?! If I were a GM I'd tell Florida to pound sand. I'm fine keeping him if you're giving me (frank) all in return.
Fakepartofme
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Living rent free... in your head, ON
Joined: 09.20.2010

Mar 6 @ 12:33 PM ET
good get for the Panthers

everyone has to remember the "get" for a pending UFA (without trade & sign)
the value nowadays will be in the "meh" range unless the pending ufa is
a top line "star" player in the league....Leafs need to get a couple of these types
too.....bottom line its advantage buyers in the pending ufa market

- paulozz

So prices have dropped drastically from last year?
Aaron_85
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Toronto, ON
Joined: 04.22.2014

Mar 6 @ 12:37 PM ET
Ffs. Its a 3rd and 4th, neither are high picks or high end prospects. Which is what i was talking about

Go whine elsewhere

- Fakepartofme


I mean it's exactly what you said about the leafs making trades last year


Or when I brought up the pens did it for a 3rd rounder in TWO YEARS lol. So nope... you talk out of two sides of your mouth. TWO YEARS away and you thought a team should keep it due to cupboards being low on prospects and picks so you can't say "it means nothing" now.
.HOHO.
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Its better to let people think you're an idiot, than to open your mouth and confirm their suspicions, NS
Joined: 07.05.2010

Mar 6 @ 12:37 PM ET
Panthers got better.
Tre asleep at the wheel.
Whipper
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: GalacticStone made avi, AB
Joined: 07.04.2006

Mar 6 @ 12:38 PM ET
Random question. If the Leafs were to go after, say, Parayko, can they have St Louis retain on the remainder of this year only? My gut says no, but I'm not 100% sure.

Would be nice to grab someone like him with term, but I don't think we can make it work unless we ship out Brodie, and I'd like to keep him to play the left side where he is MUCH better. Cost would be too steep to have STL retain on the rest of his contract, but if it can be worked to retain this year alone it's possible, (even though I don't think that's how it works).
Snot Dillingham
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Ontario, ON
Joined: 07.14.2023

Mar 6 @ 12:38 PM ET
That is highway robbery!

C`mon Tre, tick tock.

Chickrun, Provorv or Pyroanko
Fakepartofme
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Living rent free... in your head, ON
Joined: 09.20.2010

Mar 6 @ 12:38 PM ET
Still. A year ago Tarasenko (with Mikkola) went for a 1st, a 3rd, Blais and B-C prospect.

Now he goes for a 3rd & 4th with retention?! If I were a GM I'd tell Florida to pound sand. I'm fine keeping him if you're giving me (frank) all in return.

- Monkeypunk

Could be big steal for the panthers. But considering the panthers style of play, which seems pretty physical, taresenko doesnt seem to fit that mold. Unless he is more physical than i recall him to be?
Whipper
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: GalacticStone made avi, AB
Joined: 07.04.2006

Mar 6 @ 12:39 PM ET
Still. A year ago Tarasenko (with Mikkola) went for a 1st, a 3rd, Blais and B-C prospect.

Now he goes for a 3rd & 4th with retention?! If I were a GM I'd tell Florida to pound sand. I'm fine keeping him if you're giving me (frank) all in return.

- Monkeypunk

But why? This year is a complete bust for OTT and he walks at the end of the year. Isn't two draft picks, (even as low as they are), better than nothing?
Fakepartofme
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Living rent free... in your head, ON
Joined: 09.20.2010

Mar 6 @ 12:39 PM ET
Random question. If the Leafs were to go after, say, Parayko, can they have St Louis retain on the remainder of this year only? My gut says no, but I'm not 100% sure.

Would be nice to grab someone like him with term, but I don't think we can make it work unless we ship out Brodie, and I'd like to keep him to play the left side where he is MUCH better. Cost would be too steep to have STL retain on the rest of his contract, but if it can be worked to retain this year alone it's possible, (even though I don't think that's how it works).

- Whipper

I dont believe so no. That would be a great option though. I pretty sure they have to retain on the whole contract.
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