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Cush29
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Who Owzzzzz da' Chiefs?, ON
Joined: 12.22.2014

Mar 6 @ 1:47 PM ET
I don't think the price is known yet.

My friend is an Oiler fan, and his attitude towards this era with Draisaitl and McDavid is - who cares about the future. Win a cup NOW while you have the best player in the world, and arguably another top-5 player in Draisaitl. He doesn't care what they have to give up. Trade a 1st to get rid of Campbell, trade a 1st to get Henrique . . . .don't touch the core - and that's about it.

- Monkeypunk


I'm not surprised to hear that is his thought process and many Leaf fans kinda' feel the same about what Toronto has now. The biggest difference in my opinion is that Edmonton has been 'rebuilding' for much much longer but they were so poorly managed. I mean think of all those top draft picks they had and what they have accomplished with them (or rather how much they haven't).

I guess for some the counter argument is the Oilers have won a cup (cups) much more recently than Toronto.
Santo_44
Toronto Maple Leafs
Joined: 10.20.2014

Mar 6 @ 1:47 PM ET
Long term contracts are rarely traded during the season. Very rarely. It COULD happen but I see why they suggest an off season move.
- Aaron_85


Usually it’s because teams want to wait for more teams to bid on them.

This is not the same scenerio, there’s likely only a few teams they can make a trade with. STL is running out of time with their D.
GreatGigInTheSky
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: "Yeah, Garth is a tool"- Garf, ON
Joined: 06.12.2017

Mar 6 @ 1:48 PM ET
A few of the top insiders said he’s low on the leafs list

Parayko

Honestly can’t think of any other RHD that I’d want. Unless Roy or Pesce become available for some reason.

- Santo_44


Thank (frank)
Santo_44
Toronto Maple Leafs
Joined: 10.20.2014

Mar 6 @ 1:49 PM ET
Pagnotta said a half hour ago leafs are sniffing on Walker and Parayko

Walker is gone
Aaron_85
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Toronto, ON
Joined: 04.22.2014

Mar 6 @ 1:49 PM ET
Usually it’s because teams want to wait for more teams to bid on them.

This is not the same scenerio, there’s likely only a few teams they can make a trade with. STL is running out of time with their D.

- Santo_44


More teams to bid. (Which another team who thinks he could be a core piece for a playoff spot could open up.)
Another year off the deal for retention if someone wanted to be so kind.
More teams have bad deals off their books to want to make the move

Also the blues are 6 pts out of wild card. They COULD feel they could beat out Nashville for it.
Whipper
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: GalacticStone made avi, AB
Joined: 07.04.2006

Mar 6 @ 1:51 PM ET
Pagnotta said a half hour ago leafs are sniffing on Walker and Parayko

Walker is gone

- Santo_44

I like where this is headed. But what is the cost? Brodie? Sure! 1st? Absolutely! Then what? Probably Robertson.
Archaic
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Waterloo, ON
Joined: 01.12.2011

Mar 6 @ 1:52 PM ET
Outside of Lindholm and Monohan, no trade has been at a cost the leafs can't afford. Even then it was just a first rounder they may not have wanted to part with in those trades, which the leafs can move if they really wanted to.
- Aaron_85


Really? What about Tarasenko? Could they overpay. sure. I mean the Leafs could trade Marner too to just make a trade.

The issue is they dont have the right assets for most of the trades. They lack assets, and unless they want to overpay, they cant make trades.
Santo_44
Toronto Maple Leafs
Joined: 10.20.2014

Mar 6 @ 1:52 PM ET
More teams to bid. (Which another team who thinks he could be a core piece for a playoff spot could open up.)
Another year off the deal for retention if someone wanted to be so kind.
More teams have bad deals off their books to want to make the move

Also the blues are 6 pts out of wild card. They COULD feel they could beat out Nashville for it.

- Aaron_85


He signed with a NTC, highly unlikely he negotiated that if he would go to a bunch of teams.

Another year off the deal also means a year older.

I understand where your thoughts are but this scenario could absolutely happen now. In fact if Parayko is Tre’s guy I say he makes it happen, if not he’s not coming here now the offseason.
senstroll
Location: Leafs AAV Champs, ON
Joined: 02.22.2008

Mar 6 @ 1:52 PM ET
Watch, we’re going to get Dumba
- Canada Cup


fug
senstroll
Location: Leafs AAV Champs, ON
Joined: 02.22.2008

Mar 6 @ 1:53 PM ET
RE Avs acquiring Walker
interesting to see.

David Johnson
@hockeyanalysis

I am not convinced a group of defensemen this small can compete for a Stanley Cup. Big defenses win. Only Manson is over 200lbs in top 6.
dmnted
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Space for Rent
Joined: 08.30.2006

Mar 6 @ 1:54 PM ET
Walker to Colorado

First notable leafs legit option off the board

- Santo_44

man Johansen has dropped a lot
dmnted
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Space for Rent
Joined: 08.30.2006

Mar 6 @ 1:56 PM ET
Outside of Lindholm and Monohan, no trade has been at a cost the leafs can't afford. Even then it was just a first rounder they may not have wanted to part with in those trades, which the leafs can move if they really wanted to.
- Aaron_85

yeah but what about the cap space?
dmnted
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Space for Rent
Joined: 08.30.2006

Mar 6 @ 1:58 PM ET
A 1st for Walker lol no thanks
- Santo_44

Johansen is only listed on the tsn trade tracker
Whipper
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: GalacticStone made avi, AB
Joined: 07.04.2006

Mar 6 @ 1:59 PM ET
Johansen is only listed on the tsn trade tracker
- dmnted

And he's already on the Flyers on nhl.com, impressive.
https://www.nhl.com/flyer...yer/ryan-johansen-8475793

senstroll
Location: Leafs AAV Champs, ON
Joined: 02.22.2008

Mar 6 @ 2:00 PM ET
prices seem reasonable

Leafs should get a good player for 2024 1st
Santo_44
Toronto Maple Leafs
Joined: 10.20.2014

Mar 6 @ 2:00 PM ET
Bryam for Middelstad wow
GreatGigInTheSky
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: "Yeah, Garth is a tool"- Garf, ON
Joined: 06.12.2017

Mar 6 @ 2:01 PM ET
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GreatGigInTheSky
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: "Yeah, Garth is a tool"- Garf, ON
Joined: 06.12.2017

Mar 6 @ 2:03 PM ET
Pagnotta said a half hour ago leafs are sniffing on Walker and Parayko

Walker is gone

- Santo_44


Archaic
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Waterloo, ON
Joined: 01.12.2011

Mar 6 @ 2:03 PM ET
Bryam for Middelstad wow
- Santo_44


Wow, i love that for the Sabres. They are going to have a lot of expensive dmen though.
Mike Augello
Commissioner
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Buffalo, NY
Joined: 06.25.2006

Mar 6 @ 2:04 PM ET
new blog everyone
Aaron_85
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Toronto, ON
Joined: 04.22.2014

Mar 6 @ 2:08 PM ET
A 1st for Walker lol no thanks
- Santo_44


It was RyJo according to tsn
Aaron_85
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Toronto, ON
Joined: 04.22.2014

Mar 6 @ 2:09 PM ET
Really? What about Tarasenko? Could they overpay. sure. I mean the Leafs could trade Marner too to just make a trade.

The issue is they dont have the right assets for most of the trades. They lack assets, and unless they want to overpay, they cant make trades.

- Archaic


for a 3rd and 4th round pick? Super cheap
Whipper
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: GalacticStone made avi, AB
Joined: 07.04.2006

Mar 6 @ 2:15 PM ET
It was RyJo according to tsn
- Aaron_85

It was both. Johansen is already on waivers.
fifty__missions
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Burkie's Rented Barn, ON
Joined: 02.12.2013

Mar 6 @ 2:40 PM ET
Thank (frank)
- GreatGigInTheSky

Is this when you vastly overrate Timothy Liljgren again and tell us he's our "best" dman?
GreatGigInTheSky
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: "Yeah, Garth is a tool"- Garf, ON
Joined: 06.12.2017

Mar 6 @ 7:18 PM ET
Is this when you vastly overrate Timothy Liljgren again and tell us he's our "best" dman?
- fifty__missions


Is this similar to a leopard can't change his spots? But for you, a clown can't change his face paint?

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