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coohill
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Louisville, CO
Joined: 03.15.2007

Mar 6 @ 5:23 PM ET
I feel like there's been a lot of agent (frank)ery along these lines in the NBA lately as well. Agents trying to get their clients to specific teams at all costs because of other clients' wishes. Klutch Sports is notorious for this. Has resulted in some lawsuits.
- Victoro311


Nothing beats Eagleson franking over Bobby Orr. Could have been part owner of the Bruins and never left for the Hawks.
MacPatty
Pittsburgh Penguins
Joined: 05.21.2015

Mar 6 @ 5:34 PM ET
If I'm the Rangers, I'm not sure I trade Laf for Jake straight up without the promise of an extension.
- SuperHenderson13


Yeah, I'd take Jake for Laf straight up. Can't imagine the Rags throwing in a first and prospect.
Thunderbolt
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Wampum, PA
Joined: 01.20.2014

Mar 6 @ 5:37 PM ET
I feel like there's been a lot of agent (frank)ery along these lines in the NBA lately as well. Agents trying to get their clients to specific teams at all costs because of other clients' wishes. Klutch Sports is notorious for this. Has resulted in some lawsuits.
- Victoro311


No relation to Johns, so if the kid makes it, you can root for him.
sammy87
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: CO
Joined: 05.05.2011

Mar 6 @ 5:39 PM ET
I’m kind of sick of watching the same team year after year tbh. Hope dubas can work a deal.
- 10inchTerror


Yeah it’s become pretty stale.

I’d like to see some resemblance of a plan vs just throwing darts
123Kid
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: PA
Joined: 07.03.2017

Mar 6 @ 6:08 PM ET
Why do I feel like this deal isn't getting done
madmike71
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Pittsburgh, PA
Joined: 12.21.2006

Mar 6 @ 6:18 PM ET
Why do I feel like this deal isn't getting done
- 123Kid


I think a deal is going to happen, but we probably won't be thrilled with the return. If Rutherford is involved, he'll get his man.

Still hoping there's multiple teams involved, but seems a few destinations are likely gone.
ChrisMS
Joined: 05.02.2012

Mar 6 @ 6:24 PM ET
If the deal involves a western conference team it’s still not even happy hour. I remember being at happy hour at Fridays in consol with Shero across the bar working the phone in what I can only assume was the iginla deal. Wasn’t announced till late evening.
10inchTerror
Joined: 10.13.2019

Mar 6 @ 6:25 PM ET
Why do I feel like this deal isn't getting done
- 123Kid


Dubas prob should have taken a deal already seeing as everyone else is getting people. Once again he waited too long. I don’t want to see Jake resigned. I know he will be better than any replacement but I want change on this team.
Victoro311
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: San Diego, CA
Joined: 06.17.2014

Mar 6 @ 6:49 PM ET
Weekes says he’s heard of a potential three way deal with Van/Bos where we get DeBrusk back. I hope that’s just people spitballing cus that would suck for us unless we’re getting some serious prospects too.
MacPatty
Pittsburgh Penguins
Joined: 05.21.2015

Mar 6 @ 6:55 PM ET
Weekes says he’s heard of a potential three way deal with Van/Bos where we get DeBrusk back. I hope that’s just people spitballing cus that would suck for us unless we’re getting some serious prospects too.
- Victoro311


Debrusk is UFA so if he is coming back, it's likely a salary offset. That or Dubas wants to sign him to an extension.

I'd hope:
PIT: Debrusk, Lysell, Hoglander, Boston 1st
VAN: Guentzel (1/2 ret), Eller
BOS: Lindholm, Smith
123Kid
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: PA
Joined: 07.03.2017

Mar 6 @ 7:02 PM ET
Debrusk is UFA so if he is coming back, it's likely a salary offset. That or Dubas wants to sign him to an extension.

I'd hope:
PIT: Debrusk, Lysell, Hoglander, Boston 1st
VAN: Guentzel (1/2 ret), Eller
BOS: Lindholm, Smith

- MacPatty


That would be awesome! I heard Debrusk mentioned yesterday. Jake DeBrusk and John Beecher to the Penguins, with the Canucks sending Vasily Podkolzin to us as well in a 3 team deal. That was what I heard and wrote yesterday. I really want Hoglander as I keep saying. That deal you proposed would open up some significant cap space for us.
123Kid
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: PA
Joined: 07.03.2017

Mar 6 @ 7:07 PM ET
This is going to sound crazy, but I know we looked into Noah Hanifin from the rumors. Maybe Vegas acquired him and tries to ship him to us in a Guentzel deal?
Rocco115Pitt
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Pittsburgh, PA
Joined: 02.05.2014

Mar 6 @ 7:10 PM ET
This is going to sound crazy, but I know we looked into Noah Hanifin from the rumors. Maybe Vegas acquired him and tries to ship him to us in a Guentzel deal?
- 123Kid


I mentioned something similar a few blogs ago that was 3 team deal with Calgary and Vancouver. Would be wild for something like that to happen. Then we can continue working on sending all of our bad players for all of their good players.
kfinl170
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: NJ
Joined: 07.05.2010

Mar 6 @ 7:11 PM ET
That would be awesome! I heard Debrusk mentioned yesterday. Jake DeBrusk and John Beecher to the Penguins, with the Canucks sending Vasily Podkolzin to us as well in a 3 team deal. That was what I heard and wrote yesterday. I really want Hoglander as I keep saying. That deal you proposed would open up some significant cap space for us.
- 123Kid


Is Podkolzin even a prospect at this point? He’s 23 in the AHL. I know he has pedigree but it seems like his time is passing.
kfinl170
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: NJ
Joined: 07.05.2010

Mar 6 @ 7:11 PM ET
I mentioned something similar a few blogs ago that was 3 team deal with Calgary and Vancouver. Would be wild for something like that to happen. Then we can continue working on sending all of our bad players for all of their good players.
- Rocco115Pitt


I saw they’re working on an extension for him
MattStrat
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: ...serial abuser...and misuser...of the ellipsis , NF
Joined: 12.12.2014

Mar 6 @ 7:12 PM ET
If the deal involves a western conference team it’s still not even happy hour. I remember being at happy hour at Fridays in consol with Shero across the bar working the phone in what I can only assume was the iginla deal. Wasn’t announced till late evening.
- ChrisMS


That's f'n awesome. I'm 1.5 hours ahead of EST and that trade went down super late where I am.. Then I couldn't get to sleep haha
123Kid
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: PA
Joined: 07.03.2017

Mar 6 @ 7:12 PM ET
Is Podkolzin even a prospect at this point? He’s 23 in the AHL. I know he has pedigree but it seems like his time is passing.
- kfinl170


I think we are holding out for someone better due to this fact. He is kinda like Nylander. Even though he isn't a good example since he is now lighting it up for CBJ haha!
Rocco115Pitt
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Pittsburgh, PA
Joined: 02.05.2014

Mar 6 @ 7:13 PM ET
I saw they’re working on an extension for him
- kfinl170


Just saw...but maybe sign and trade??

One can wish
123Kid
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: PA
Joined: 07.03.2017

Mar 6 @ 7:14 PM ET
Ek saying Vegas is trying to send us a Defenseman. Maybe Dubas is gonna deal Graves in a Guentzel trade. Maybe that's the hold up that no one wants Graves hahaha
123Kid
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: PA
Joined: 07.03.2017

Mar 6 @ 7:16 PM ET
Just saw...but maybe sign and trade??

One can wish

- Rocco115Pitt



Could you imagine?!
sammy87
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: CO
Joined: 05.05.2011

Mar 6 @ 7:19 PM ET
This is going to sound crazy, but I know we looked into Noah Hanifin from the rumors. Maybe Vegas acquired him and tries to ship him to us in a Guentzel deal?
- 123Kid


I was hoping they were after him over ek last summer.

123Kid
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: PA
Joined: 07.03.2017

Mar 6 @ 7:19 PM ET
TIOPS saying LA Kings asked about a Smith and Carter trade package. If only that site was true
Rocco115Pitt
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Pittsburgh, PA
Joined: 02.05.2014

Mar 6 @ 7:25 PM ET
Could you imagine?!
- 123Kid


You'd have to send Graves out though, I think.
MattStrat
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: ...serial abuser...and misuser...of the ellipsis , NF
Joined: 12.12.2014

Mar 6 @ 7:30 PM ET
This is one of those suggested pages on my Facebook due to my Penguins heavy algorithm haha I don't think this is a good source by any means but has anyone heard anything like this?... I find if I don't see it elsewhere most things Penguins related get mention around here.

MattStrat
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: ...serial abuser...and misuser...of the ellipsis , NF
Joined: 12.12.2014

Mar 6 @ 7:32 PM ET
You'd have to send Graves out though, I think.
- Rocco115Pitt


Fire him down to Zona..they're gonna need to get to the cap floor. Even Calgary might want a player with term as it seems they have a hard time keeping players... Plus they've shipped out a chunk of their D core already this last week.
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