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Jan Levine
New York Rangers
Joined: 09.16.2005

Mar 8 @ 3:33 PM ET
New blog likely up Saturday night or Sunday am. Not sure I will have time now due to physical therapy and then the sabbath starting.
picklerick
New York Rangers
Location: New York, NY
Joined: 03.01.2018

Mar 8 @ 3:34 PM ET
I can’t believe SJ is retaining salary
blacksheep1
New York Rangers
Location: Handsome Eddy, IA
Joined: 07.30.2010

Mar 8 @ 3:35 PM ET
C for me.

all in all - MEH

- NYRangers1124

This is correct.
blacksheep1
New York Rangers
Location: Handsome Eddy, IA
Joined: 07.30.2010

Mar 8 @ 3:36 PM ET
I can’t believe SJ is retaining salary
- picklerick

for 6 years.
blacksheep1
New York Rangers
Location: Handsome Eddy, IA
Joined: 07.30.2010

Mar 8 @ 3:41 PM ET
@frank_seravalli
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5m
#Flames still have one trade in the queue.


Hoping for a miracle Coleman for Goodrow please.
Tonybere
New York Rangers
Location: ON
Joined: 02.04.2016

Mar 8 @ 3:42 PM ET
I just love how Bob McKenzie hasn't tweeted anything in months and then just drops that blockbuster on everyone
- eichiefs9


Weak wifi signal in Muskoka.
blacksheep1
New York Rangers
Location: Handsome Eddy, IA
Joined: 07.30.2010

Mar 8 @ 3:45 PM ET
@TonyAndrock
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1h
The #NYR have assigned forwards Adam Edstrom & Matt Rempe to AHL-Hartford to make them eligible to play for Wolf Pack in 2024 Calder Cup Playoffs & remainder of AHL's 2023-24 regular season.
@InsideAHLHockey


Not sure if this was brought up.
fourtrax23
New York Rangers
Joined: 12.17.2008

Mar 8 @ 3:48 PM ET
Zegras for Othmann Perrault 2024 1st, u doing that?
- nyrangers9479



Put the pipe down. Dear god.
blacksheep1
New York Rangers
Location: Handsome Eddy, IA
Joined: 07.30.2010

Mar 8 @ 3:49 PM ET
Put the pipe down. Dear god.
- fourtrax23

nyrangers9479
New York Rangers
Joined: 11.08.2013

Mar 8 @ 3:50 PM ET
Put the pipe down. Dear god.
- fourtrax23

To much?
mames11
Location: New York, NY
Joined: 03.29.2013

Mar 8 @ 3:52 PM ET
In hindsight, Roslovic/Guentzel is better than roslivic/kakko. Couldve offered a 1st, kakko and othmann. That may have made NY favorites.
- nyrangers2



Same for the other big name RW (Frankie and Buch). I think the asking price for them was far too high and after the JG trade to Carolina, GM's saw the mediocre return and were at that "no fvcking way I'm offering that after seeing this deal". That kept the other GM's from overpaying for these other two.
fourtrax23
New York Rangers
Joined: 12.17.2008

Mar 8 @ 3:55 PM ET
To much?
- nyrangers9479


Way too much. Probably twice his value.
mdw7413
New York Rangers
Location: I would rather see a dudes hairy balls than his hairy feet-Jimbro
Joined: 12.13.2013

Mar 8 @ 3:55 PM ET
Same for the other big name RW (Frankie and Buch). I think the asking price for them was far too high and after the JG trade to Carolina, GM's saw the mediocre return and were at that "no fvcking way I'm offering that after seeing this deal". That kept the other GM's from overpaying for these other two.
- mames11


Still think Buch was the best choice. He knows a bunch of players on this team, hes a rw and he has a year left on the contract. If you give a 1st for a guy who is going to be a ufa, makes sense to give 2 for a guy who has 2 years.
mames11
Location: New York, NY
Joined: 03.29.2013

Mar 8 @ 3:57 PM ET
Still think Buch was the best choice. He knows a bunch of players on this team, hes a rw and he has a year left on the contract. If you give a 1st for a guy who is going to be a ufa, makes sense to give 2 for a guy who has 2 years.
- mdw7413



I agree. I would have given that up for Buch, but also not terribly sad Drury did not. Kind of a win-win. If he made the deal and Rangers fell short, he'd be fired.
TC88
New York Rangers
Joined: 10.24.2020

Mar 8 @ 3:57 PM ET
How are things over on Rangers twitter?
mdw7413
New York Rangers
Location: I would rather see a dudes hairy balls than his hairy feet-Jimbro
Joined: 12.13.2013

Mar 8 @ 3:58 PM ET
I agree. I would have given that up for Buch, but also not terribly sad Drury did not. Kind of a win-win. If he made the deal and Rangers fell short, he'd be fired.
- mames11


Yeah, Im fine with the pick ups, but definitely would have been thrilled with Buch
nyrangers9479
New York Rangers
Joined: 11.08.2013

Mar 8 @ 3:59 PM ET
Way too much. Probably twice his value.
- fourtrax23

I never know what to get from u guys. If it was just 1st and 1 of them, I would’ve gotten, “r u out of ur mind, way more for a 22 year old that’s already had 2 60+ pt seasons”. I got over and I’m on the pipe. Can’t win.
fourtrax23
New York Rangers
Joined: 12.17.2008

Mar 8 @ 4:01 PM ET
I never know what to get from u guys. If it was just 1st and 1 of them, I would’ve gotten, “r u out of ur mind, way more for a 22 year old that’s already had 2 60+ pt seasons”. I got over and I’m on the pipe. Can’t win.
- nyrangers9479


Look at it this way... if the draft was today Perrault would likely be top 3 if not 1OA. Othmann is a top tier prospect and then you add in a 1st. For what? Idc if Zegras scored 20 Michigan goals and is on the cover of all the EA games - he's not worth that.
mdw7413
New York Rangers
Location: I would rather see a dudes hairy balls than his hairy feet-Jimbro
Joined: 12.13.2013

Mar 8 @ 4:02 PM ET
I never know what to get from u guys. If it was just 1st and 1 of them, I would’ve gotten, “r u out of ur mind, way more for a 22 year old that’s already had 2 60+ pt seasons”. I got over and I’m on the pipe. Can’t win.
- nyrangers9479


From an organizational view I think its way too much. Giving away 2 best prospects plus a 1st rounder for 1 player. Do I think hes worth that much in the market, probably close I would say 1st rounder, top prospect and mid level pic/prospect
Bean_Dip
New York Rangers
Location: New York, NY
Joined: 09.30.2015

Mar 8 @ 4:04 PM ET
Same for the other big name RW (Frankie and Buch). I think the asking price for them was far too high and after the JG trade to Carolina, GM's saw the mediocre return and were at that "no fvcking way I'm offering that after seeing this deal". That kept the other GM's from overpaying for these other two.
- mames11

There’s also the very real fact that they (Vatrano and Buch) weren’t available. Armstrong said Buch wasn’t available. Vatrano made it clear he wanted to stay.

Rumors are rumors.
aecliptic
New York Rangers
Location: Stacheville
Joined: 06.17.2010

Mar 8 @ 4:04 PM ET
Still think Buch was the best choice. He knows a bunch of players on this team, hes a rw and he has a year left on the contract. If you give a 1st for a guy who is going to be a ufa, makes sense to give 2 for a guy who has 2 years.
- mdw7413


I would have given up a two 1sts or a 1st and Othmann, plus Robertson, to get Buch with 50% retention.

This was the most the Blues would have ever gotten for Buch, if they try to trade him at the deadline next year, they will not get this value.
blacksheep1
New York Rangers
Location: Handsome Eddy, IA
Joined: 07.30.2010

Mar 8 @ 4:06 PM ET
Still think Buch was the best choice. He knows a bunch of players on this team, hes a rw and he has a year left on the contract. If you give a 1st for a guy who is going to be a ufa, makes sense to give 2 for a guy who has 2 years.
- mdw7413

MDW out here battling chef TPC for cooking up the best takes.
blacksheep1
New York Rangers
Location: Handsome Eddy, IA
Joined: 07.30.2010

Mar 8 @ 4:06 PM ET
I agree. I would have given that up for Buch, but also not terribly sad Drury did not. Kind of a win-win. If he made the deal and Rangers fell short, he'd be fired.
- mames11

If they don't win this year he might be fired too.
blacksheep1
New York Rangers
Location: Handsome Eddy, IA
Joined: 07.30.2010

Mar 8 @ 4:07 PM ET
Look at it this way... if the draft was today Perrault would likely be top 3 if not 1OA. Othmann is a top tier prospect and then you add in a 1st. For what? Idc if Zegras scored 20 Michigan goals and is on the cover of all the EA games - he's not worth that.
- fourtrax23

Love Perrault pick in hindsight, but he was not going ahead of Bedard.
fish_hoof
New York Rangers
Joined: 05.29.2022

Mar 8 @ 4:07 PM ET
There’s also the very real fact that they (Vatrano and Buch) weren’t available. Armstrong said Buch wasn’t available. Vatrano made it clear he wanted to stay.

Rumors are rumors.

- Bean_Dip


This is the most logical response. Everyone is saying "I would have offered this." and the truth is... we will never know what was offered or even if they were available. The fact that no other team got them, tells me they probably were either A - not available or B - price was astronomically high.
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