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The trade with Minny now says the Leafs included Ovchinnikov...wtf
- paulozz

💩. Not good unless wasnt gonna come in and sign maybe?! I dunno. That isnt looking like a great trade now.

Whats kind of interesting is looking at that d corp going into next year. It is set up for Tre to really do a bigtime overhaul on it. Lilly and Benoit RFA, Gio, Brodie, Edmundson, and Boosh ufa.

Muzz, Klingberg, and Murray gone too so lose their ltir.

That back end could be a real spot of work for Tre
- Roadrunner75

Perfect chance to start adding some serious snarl who can get the puck out of our zone.
And the PK has to improve as well.

That's exactly what I would like to see too.

Separate the talent of the forward group so it's not so easy to stifle the offense.

Then you have Gio/Timmins for injury relief on their respective sides for the defense.

Then fingers crossed on the goalie situation....which I have a feeling Sammy will take the #1 spot this year before the playoffs. Woll can have it next year, I just don't feel confident with him as #1 in the playoffs yet.
- underhill14

Yes guy.

Distribution of talent across the top 9 and roll lines. You can always load up lines (88/34/16, etc.) when you're down a goal or two, but this keeps the opposing coaches guessing.

The only guy I'd want is Hertl and even then . . .I don't know. He's 30, has never been a PPG player - even with the 17% retention, $7m salary for the next 6 years of his decline - and it cost them the equivalent of Easton Cowan and a 1st. Now THAT is a lot to pay.

Kostin, Maroon and Johnson . . .barf.
- Monkeypunk

Right on

It’s the usual shtick from fans of other teams.
- shack67

Na 23? Usually has pretty unbiased takes however the narrative that the Leafs are so soft and Boston is so mean, tough and nasty is a joke.

That rat Marchand refusing to fight and turtling vs Domi is a good example of how wrong that is.

McCabe / Reilly are goons and monsters for what they did but when a Bruin does similar or worse they are just mean & nasty and a part of the Boston Bruins culture blah blah blah.

Leafs were reactionary again.
They need to start the game with the roughness.
But im glad they stood to the bruins, loved what bert did and domi tried to do.

Marchand is a piece of poop
- Fakepartofme

Not sure I agree they were reactionary - at least not McCabe!

He definitely started rhe game with roughness. lol

Not sure I agree they were reactionary - at least not McCabe!

He definitely started rhe game with roughness. lol
- Cush29

do you just cut and paste this?

We can all agree as leaf fans that the Canucks got a guy, paid a premium, they felt he wasn't completely working out. Circulated his name around trade circles, and are now stuck with a guy who's likely unhappy and not playing the best.

Disagree with you on this.

I think you are equating a tired team with the flu ripping through the room to them being timid.

Leafs got into the scrums and were not pushed around as they have been in other years.

Have to think Eddy watching that from the press box thought “I wish I was down there to jump in here” and you know if GIO was healthy and I’m he would have used his full old man strength to mix it up.

Being bullied is def not something I worry about with this team. Especially not from Fatty Patty.

Marchand pussied out even against Domi and Reevo didn’t get his mitts on anyone.

There are warts to be concerned about with the Leafs but I don’t feel being bullied is one of them.
- Cush29

Ya man I can see the tired/flu angle for sure. I just saw shift after shift where 55/74/13/11/39/25/94 - were finishing checks. Especially against 34/16/88/91/44/37/78

Because of that the forwards looked timid with puck, and the Dmen were all game rushing decisions and getting rid of it. This resulted in drone giveaways up the wall and just nothing dump passes that caused loss possession. They looked scared (hate that word cause I’m sore but literally scared just more ‘aware’ they would get hit).

The only guys that initiated and went back at then were the ones mentioned last post. The whole Bs lineup plays hard and tough and their Stars a generate in those types of games and frankly Marchand and Pasta and McAvoy play better in those types of games. I just see that as the difference in team construction and player personnel. That wins in playoffs in a series of wear and tear.

do you just cut and paste this?
- drexel

Lol.

Now you want to complain about how I start my replies? You don’t have to be the guy to always be contrary or just act like a Jack ass every other time you post others can pick up the slack don’t worry.

We can all agree as leaf fans that the Canucks got a guy, paid a premium, they felt he wasn't completely working out. Circulated his name around trade circles, and are now stuck with a guy who's likely unhappy and not playing the best.
- Aaron_85

They also brought Kessel in, basically said they were going to sign him...realized that they were not the "wagon" they though they were and knew they couldn't sign a locker room guy that would probably make them worse on ice..well because they have been a bad hockey team the last month.

We can all agree as leaf fans that the Canucks got a guy, paid a premium, they felt he wasn't completely working out. Circulated his name around trade circles, and are now stuck with a guy who's likely unhappy and not playing the best.
- Aaron_85

Sounds like they have also deprived every fan of hockey from seeing Phil the Thrill go for another cup as they aren’t adding him to their roster.

Na 23? Usually has pretty unbiased takes however the narrative that the Leafs are so soft and Boston is so mean, tough and nasty is a joke.

That rat Marchand refusing to fight and turtling vs Domi is a good example of how wrong that is.

McCabe / Reilly are goons and monsters for what they did but when a Bruin does similar or worse they are just mean & nasty and a part of the Boston Bruins culture blah blah blah.
- Cush29

It really is amazing that a guy who I think has already had 6 suspensions (?) gets the benefit of the doubt by the league. I can understand someone like Bob MacKenzie watching and thinking last night (Knies) was accidental - but anyone who has played can clearly see he had an opportunity to get out of the way of the unsuspecting player. He clearly sees him as he goes into the impact. Whether or not he explodes up high - that you can say maybe maybe not. I think YES but you can’t dictate how a player braces for impact right…though 6 suspensions and a career of being an ass says one thing.

End of day - he clearly chose the impact and drone through (again maybe not UP on purpose but definitely through) an unsuspecting player knowing full well as an NHL player who has been hit like that before - it would cause damage.

I would love him on my team but at same time the guys gotta drop his gloves from time to time right. That’s the way I learned the game anyways. You can be an ass - but answer the bell sometimes.

Liljegren isn’t going to be the 7th. He’s literally their second best offensive d man
- Dozzer

I don't know about that. Boston beats on Liljgren like a rented mule. They make him their personal female dog for 60 minutes.

It really is amazing that a guy who I think has already had 6 suspensions (?) gets the benefit of the doubt by the league. I can understand someone like Bob MacKenzie watching and thinking last night (Knies) was accidental - but anyone who has played can clearly see he had an opportunity to get out of the way of the unsuspecting player. He clearly sees him as he goes into the impact. Whether or not he explodes up high - that you can say maybe maybe not. I think YES but you can’t dictate how a player braces for impact right…though 6 suspensions and a career of being an ass says one thing.

End of day - he clearly chose the impact and drone through (again maybe not UP on purpose but definitely through) an unsuspecting player knowing full well as an NHL player who has been hit like that before - it would cause damage.

I would love him on my team but at same time the guys gotta drop his gloves from time to time right. That’s the way I learned the game anyways. You can be an ass - but answer the bell sometimes.
- Big23Questions

I am convinced it was intentional and he knew exactly what he was doing. The league has let him get away with a lot of BS for a long time and it doesn’t appear it’s going to change.

He’s a POS and he rarely fights at all - Christ he put his arms at his sides when Domi went at him like a pylon because he knew he’d get his ass beat.

Someone just needs to do the Tie Domi on Samuelson to that POS - he more than deserves it.

I am convinced it was intentional and he knew exactly what he was doing. The league has let him get away with a lot of BS for a long time and it doesn’t appear it’s going to change.

He’s a POS and he rarely fights at all - Christ he put his arms at his sides when Domi went at him like a pylon because he knew he’d get his ass beat.

Someone just needs to do the Tie Domi on Samuelson to that POS - he more than deserves it.
- Cush29

All day long! Take the suspension (Reaves) cause you won’t get much I’ve post season unless series really calls for it or a spark is needed.

No change Dewar is a 3rd line C IMO. Maybe they move Kampf up, or JT to Matthews wing. Where is Lybushkin?
- Archaic

I think is it simple that Dewar is replacement for Gregor and Holmberg/Reaves/Dewar cycle through the lineup.

Big plus is he is a good PKer by all accounts

I don't know about that. Boston beats on Liljgren like a rented mule. They make him their personal female dog for 60 minutes.
- fifty__missions

Then they’ll just pair him up with McCabe and stick Brodie with Edmundson *shrugs*

I just have a real tough time seeing them give up his talent by using him as a 7th.

Leafs traded Ovechkin-ov-povski. He's a decent prospect no? Did Mike have him in his top 500 leaf prospect off season series?

Leafs traded Ovechkin-ov-povski. He's a decent prospect no? Did Mike have him in his top 500 leaf prospect off season series?
- PlatosRepucklic

In Scott Wheeler's breakdown of Leaf prospects, he didn't crack the top-15 but is mentioned as being outside of the top-15. So he basically has very little expectations of being an NHL regular. Listed at 5'10 / 165 (although doing okay in 20 games in the AHL he has 7 goals, 3 assists), I'm not sure he has NHL size given his limitations - but he has some fantastic moves with the puck. I believe he had a fantastic shootout move that made highlight reels last year.

In Scott Wheeler's breakdown of Leaf prospects, he didn't crack the top-15 but is mentioned as being outside of the top-15. So he basically has very little expectations of being an NHL regular. Listed at 5'10 / 165 (although doing okay in 20 games in the AHL he has 7 goals, 3 assists), I'm not sure he has NHL size given his limitations - but he has some fantastic moves with the puck. I believe he had a fantastic shootout move that made highlight reels last year.
- Monkeypunk

You are probably thinking of Grebenkin

Who is actually a pretty nice prospect for the Leafs

In Scott Wheeler's breakdown of Leaf prospects, he didn't crack the top-15 but is mentioned as being outside of the top-15. So he basically has very little expectations of being an NHL regular. Listed at 5'10 / 165 (although doing okay in 20 games in the AHL he has 7 goals, 3 assists), I'm not sure he has NHL size given his limitations - but he has some fantastic moves with the puck. I believe he had a fantastic shootout move that made highlight reels last year.
- Monkeypunk

Thanks Monkey

In Scott Wheeler's breakdown of Leaf prospects, he didn't crack the top-15 but is mentioned as being outside of the top-15. So he basically has very little expectations of being an NHL regular. Listed at 5'10 / 165 (although doing okay in 20 games in the AHL he has 7 goals, 3 assists), I'm not sure he has NHL size given his limitations - but he has some fantastic moves with the puck. I believe he had a fantastic shootout move that made highlight reels last year.
- Monkeypunk

Video?

Lol.

Now you want to complain about how I start my replies? You don’t have to be the guy to always be contrary or just act like a Jack ass every other time you post others can pick up the slack don’t worry.
- Cush29

then why would i come here

I don't know about that. Boston beats on Liljgren like a rented mule. They make him their personal female dog for 60 minutes.
- fifty__missions

I feel sick to my stomach, but I agree with you.