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WhiskeyMan
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: PA
Joined: 04.27.2018

Mar 13 @ 2:02 PM ET
The Flyers are looking at a potential of about 12M in dead cap space for next season. That does not include the cap hit for Ryan Ellis.
- MJL


is that including petersen and ryjo?
nails
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: thread killer, PA
Joined: 02.05.2007

Mar 13 @ 2:03 PM ET
The Flyers are looking at a potential of about 12M in dead cap space for next season. That does not include the cap hit for Ryan Ellis.
- MJL

Yeah, but if, and a big if, they are rebuild serious then next years dead space is not as big of a deal. You would expect that someplace around 25/26 or 26/27 they should start wanting to be more agressive and need the space more.
But boy, looking down the barrel of 12m dead cap is chilling
MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Mar 13 @ 2:04 PM ET
is that including petersen and ryjo?
- WhiskeyMan


Yes
nails
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: thread killer, PA
Joined: 02.05.2007

Mar 13 @ 2:04 PM ET
What Doctor is going to put his medical license on the line to cooperate?
- MJL

It's the flyers. You don't think they know a guy?
MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Mar 13 @ 2:05 PM ET
It's the flyers. You don't think they know a guy?
- nails


Not getting it.
WhiskeyMan
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: PA
Joined: 04.27.2018

Mar 13 @ 2:07 PM ET
Yes
- MJL


Just making sure.

In your opinion, does that help or hurt the half baked rebuild?

In my mind I see them trade more vets away and bring up more young kids. Salaries will be low and that can help at the next trade deadline when it comes to Salary dumbs.
nails
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: thread killer, PA
Joined: 02.05.2007

Mar 13 @ 2:08 PM ET
Not getting it.
- MJL

Never mind. It was a stretch
THE BLACK HAND
Joined: 06.09.2021

Mar 13 @ 2:11 PM ET
Yes, but the 2021 draft was overall a weak draft and the Flyers were picking 14th, so I don't think they would have got an impact player anyway is my only point. The 2023 draft was a very deep draft with a lot of high end talent, so that 2nd round pick to me was the more valuable of the two picks and the one I would not have given up if I were Fletcher. I also want to note that Flahr is doing the drafting for the Flyers and he IMO has done a terrific job. Even in the 2021 draft the FLyers got Tuomaala in the late 2nd round and he is at least showing he can play pro hockey in the AHL. Whether that translates to the NHL we'll see, Tuomaala has to get stronger physically for sure.
- jd250



Incorrect.....many of the guys slected form 14 on would be the Flyers 2 ranked prospect and thats only because for some asinine work done by other GMs, Michcov, by the grace of the Hockey Gods, fell to them
Peter Richards
Season Ticket Holder
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 08.24.2019

Mar 13 @ 2:11 PM ET
A player can't just want to be injured and placed on LTIR
- MJL


not true....it's called malingering


MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Mar 13 @ 2:12 PM ET
Just making sure.

In your opinion, does that help or hurt the half baked rebuild?

In my mind I see them trade more vets away and bring up more young kids. Salaries will be low and that can help at the next trade deadline when it comes to Salary dumbs.

- WhiskeyMan


In a backwards way it could help. Keep the Flyers from foolishly spending.
Phillywhiteout
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: West Chester, PA
Joined: 08.11.2020

Mar 13 @ 2:20 PM ET
I think it is an interesting reclamation project. 12th overall pick with a 20 goal season under his belt. What do they have to lose?
- MBFlyerfan
Exactly! And they gave up Allison to get him. I feel bad for Allison, but the kid simply can't stay healthy.
hello it's me 2050
Location: AR
Joined: 05.14.2021

Mar 13 @ 2:27 PM ET
When have you ever been right about anything? When have you ever accurately assessed the state of the Flyers? Never! While I have consistently been on point. Wait and see. This will turn out the same as every other difference of opinion you and I have had.
- MJL

you crack me up cliff. we should have a cliff of the month award. given out to who is ever on point that month.
hello it's me 2050
Location: AR
Joined: 05.14.2021

Mar 13 @ 2:27 PM ET
Per Capfriendly - Ryan Johansen has an injury to his hip. The expected duration is unknown.
- WhiskeyMan

interesting
hello it's me 2050
Location: AR
Joined: 05.14.2021

Mar 13 @ 2:30 PM ET
What Doctor is going to put his medical license on the line to cooperate?
- MJL

many. how many car accident doctors out there say one has a bad back and neck? it is alto more common than you think. it is nothing new

workers comp. your family doctor can extend time saying not ready yet. who ever did the surgery also can say another 2 months or what not.
WhiskeyMan
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: PA
Joined: 04.27.2018

Mar 13 @ 2:39 PM ET
In a backwards way it could help. Keep the Flyers from foolishly spending.
- MJL


Exactly
FlyersGrace
Season Ticket Holder
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Pronger "Play the game puffnuts!" , DE
Joined: 07.02.2012

Mar 13 @ 2:43 PM ET
In a backwards way it could help. Keep the Flyers from foolishly spending.
- MJL

OK I'll buy the silver lining concept here.
The Ellis money still burns me up... Even if we can use LTIR that's a ton of money for a loooong time to pay.
TheFreak
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Duncan, BC
Joined: 12.06.2019

Mar 13 @ 2:54 PM ET
The Flyers are looking at a potential of about 12M in dead cap space for next season. That does not include the cap hit for Ryan Ellis.
- MJL


Lol..that's almost the cost of McDavids contract in dead space...
bird_dog_pa
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: PA
Joined: 07.05.2011

Mar 13 @ 2:56 PM ET
If the Flyers could draft a ginger center named Johnson they would win the cup.
WhiskeyMan
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: PA
Joined: 04.27.2018

Mar 13 @ 2:59 PM ET
OK I'll buy the silver lining concept here.
The Ellis money still burns me up... Even if we can use LTIR that's a ton of money for a loooong time to pay.

- FlyersGrace


Don't want to talk about he who should not be named, 3 more seasons. He will not retire either, can't give up the health care coverage.
26912 PP1
Season Ticket Holder
Joined: 10.05.2023

Mar 13 @ 4:07 PM ET
Seeler is out 4-6 weeks with a broken foot. The minute I saw where that heavy shot hit him it was pretty much a forgone conclusion. Not sure why the smokescreen all the time with injuries. Just come out and say it.
- Phillywhiteout
No reason why you would announce a lti injury before the deadline if you can avoid it.
26912 PP1
Season Ticket Holder
Joined: 10.05.2023

Mar 13 @ 4:08 PM ET
Lol..that's almost the cost of McDavids contract in dead space...
- TheFreak
welcome to a rebuild
MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Mar 13 @ 4:16 PM ET
No reason why you would announce a lti injury before the deadline if you can avoid it.
- 26912 PP1


What deadline?
Keyser soze
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 12.28.2020

Mar 13 @ 5:33 PM ET
How does Frost only get 11:43 of TOI? Can you do better than 1st star of the game?
- mr4tno

Lol . Very simple. He is capable of pulling off a nice play hear and there. Otherwise he is a disaster.My hope is he plays well the remainder of the season and then they trade him
MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Mar 13 @ 5:39 PM ET
Lol . Very simple. He is capable of pulling off a nice play hear and there. Otherwise he is a disaster.My hope is he plays well the remainder of the season and then they trade him
- Keyser soze


Explain how Frost is a disaster. What is the evidence of that?


Phillywhiteout
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: West Chester, PA
Joined: 08.11.2020

Mar 13 @ 5:42 PM ET
I had a chuckle this afternoon when Steve Kouleas said that Torts' tough love of Morgan Frost has really been a positive in his development this season. This was on Sirius/XM NHL Network (The Power Play). Marty Biron basically agreed with him. LMAO!!
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