1 and you have a deal
- mdw7413

They already have 1.

They already have 1.
- blacksheep1

I know, that was the wink

You'd rather see us get a penalty for someone who got hit by his teammates stick? Odd stance.
- Tonybere

i feel like those are generally pretty obvious on replay and would be hopefully decided rather quickly.

You'd rather see us get a penalty for someone who got hit by his teammates stick? Odd stance.
- Tonybere

No, I don't want that to happen, and is it really happening that much? I do recall Laf getting falsely penalized for that. Don't want the game slowed down any more than it has been.
Example of the kicking motion the other night being called a good goal followed by the coach's challenge for Interference. If they looked at the goal it should have been disallowed after one look.

i feel like those are generally pretty obvious on replay and would be hopefully decided rather quickly.
- Mtlca66

Yeah I agree wit this. The high stick rule change should be a slam dunk. The puck over glass will be trickier.

Elliotte Friedman
@FriedgeHNIC
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7m
If goalie is pulled by concussions spotter/injury…replacement gets a warmup…

Another rule change I like. Remember when Igor and Georgiev had to do this.

Elliotte Friedman
@FriedgeHNIC
New coaches challenge: if penalty is called for puck over glass, they can ask for a video review to prove it did hit something…this is only for when a penalty is called. Cannot be used to call a penalty on another team. KEY: if you are wrong on this challenge, it’s a 5-on-3

Love this.

Elliotte Friedman
@FriedgeHNIC
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7m
If goalie is pulled by concussions spotter/injury…replacement gets a warmup…

Another rule change I like. Remember when Igor and Georgiev had to do this.
- blacksheep1

Good

Elliotte Friedman
@FriedgeHNIC
New coaches challenge: if penalty is called for puck over glass, they can ask for a video review to prove it did hit something…this is only for when a penalty is called. Cannot be used to call a penalty on another team. KEY: if you are wrong on this challenge, it’s a 5-on-3

Love this.
- blacksheep1

5-on-3 applies to the high stick challenge too. can only challenge to say it's NOT a penalty. If wrong, you face a 5-on-3.

Ryan Lindgren is just the kind of guy the advanced stats people are gonna hate, just like Dan Girardi was

he's gonna play hard minutes, penalty kill, late game intense game moments

if that worth a raise and long term contract this summer? who knows, but I guarantee you we will miss him the next few weeks, especially against Boston

Ryan Lindgren is just the kind of guy the advanced stats people are gonna hate, just like Dan Girardi was

he's gonna play hard minutes, penalty kill, late game intense game moments

if that worth a raise and long term contract this summer? who knows, but I guarantee you we will miss him the next few weeks, especially against Boston
- jimbro83

Last year, despite suffering a shoulder injury he was fine. His advance stats show that. This year he's been bad. Nobody dislikes him. But like Staal and Girardi before him, the Rangers hung on too long. Girardi and Staal ended up hurting them. They literally had to trade Staal for nothing.

Nobody dislikes Lindgren, but the discussion of his future should be started.

Ryan Lindgren is just the kind of guy the advanced stats people are gonna hate, just like Dan Girardi was

he's gonna play hard minutes, penalty kill, late game intense game moments

if that worth a raise and long term contract this summer? who knows, but I guarantee you we will miss him the next few weeks, especially against Boston
- jimbro83

Absolute truth.
Apparently metrics don't have a column for "Difficulty of Minutes" or "eXpected Sacrifice of Health."

Last year, despite suffering a shoulder injury he was fine. His advance stats show that. This year he's been bad. Nobody dislikes him. But like Staal and Girardi before him, the Rangers hung on too long. Girardi and Staal ended up hurting them. They literally had to trade Staal for nothing.

Nobody dislikes Lindgren, but the discussion of his future should be started.
- blacksheep1

but Lindgren is only 26, the Girardi and Staal extensions were after that age, plus giving Staal a long term contract for that money was crazy after the eye injury

Absolute truth.
Apparently metrics don't have a column for "Difficulty of Minutes" or "eXpected Sacrifice of Health."
- Tonybere

sometimes I really do believe that these stats simply exist to just be contrarian to a player most people like

but Lindgren is only 26, the Girardi and Staal extensions were after that age, plus giving Staal a long term contract for that money was crazy after the eye injury
- jimbro83

I still think if Lindgren wants a long term contract they should look elsewhere. I just don't think longevity is one of his strengths.

I still think if Lindgren wants a long term contract they should look elsewhere. I just don't think longevity is one of his strengths.
- JRR1285

I think giving him the Chytil deal (4 years 18 or so million total) is very reasonable

but no if the demands are longer term and over 5 mil per, of course they are going to have to strongly consider looking at alternatives

I still think if Lindgren wants a long term contract they should look elsewhere. I just don't think longevity is one of his strengths.
- JRR1285

Thank you, fellow contrarian.

Thank you, fellow contrarian.
- blacksheep1

you just dont like any push back on the charts being absolute gospel

I think giving him the Chytil deal (4 years 18 or so million total) is very reasonable

but no if the demands are longer term and over 5 mil per, of course they are going to have to strongly consider looking at alternatives
- jimbro83

I don't think he is worth more than 4 mil per (max 4.2) and they can't go over 4 years like you said. I'm still not sure he sees the end of that contract. See Kevin Klein.

Thank you, fellow contrarian.
- blacksheep1

I only sort of agree with you here. I don't think he has been nearly as bad as some believe. But I look at Lindgren as someone who is going to be crippled before 30. My issue with a Lindgren contract is whether or not he will be able to play until it ends.

sometimes I really do believe that these stats simply exist to just be contrarian to a player most people like
- jimbro83

Keeping the man down

I only sort of agree with you here. I don't think he has been nearly as bad as some believe. But I look at Lindgren as someone who is going to be crippled before 30. My issue with a Lindgren contract is whether or not he will be able to play until it ends.
- JRR1285

in any event, Im just not thinking that far ahead, I just hope he's ready for the playoffs.

What's done about him as an RFA this July can definitely wait.

you just dont like any push back on the charts being absolute gospel
- jimbro83

Perhaps. The push back by Tony is fine, because I can't debate that. Because it's an unknown variable. But Hockeystatcards, NST, and Evolving Wild aren't conspiring to make Lindgren look bad.

Absolute truth.
Apparently metrics don't have a column for "Difficulty of Minutes" or "eXpected Sacrifice of Health."
- Tonybere

They do, actually, yes.

Perhaps. The push back by Tony is fine, because I can't debate that. Because it's an unknown variable. But Hockeystatcards, NST, and Evolving Wild aren't conspiring to make Lindgren look bad.
- blacksheep1

so why do so many people like Ryan Lindgren