Dozzer
Referee Toronto Maple Leafs |
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Location: Somewhere over the rainbow since I’m way up high Joined: 09.15.2010
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1. You don’t throw your 3rd best player on L3.
2. It would waste his skill set:
- He’s not elite defensively 5v5 (elite PK)
- He’s a passer but a shooter
- There is nobody for him to play with in the 3rd line that could finish his set ups at a rate that would justify putting him that low in lineup
- No matter how good L3 is, it doesn’t get as much ice as the Top 2 lines. No way you play Marner 3rd line minutes - Big23Questions
Marner can play D so I’m willing to assume he’d handle playing LW just fine.
Bertuzzi Matthews Domi
Marner JT Nylander
That as a top six would be pretty damn sweet. |
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golfingsince
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Location: This message is Marwood approved! Joined: 11.30.2011
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Marner can play D so I’m willing to assume he’d handle playing LW just fine.
Bertuzzi Matthews Domi
Marner JT Nylander
That as a top six would be pretty damn sweet. - Dozzer
I think it's fair to say that Matthews is a top 3 player, top 5 at worst. McDavid, MacKinnon, Matthews, Kucherov, Draisaitl?
Does he need help driving a line? I think he can handle it on his own. You could load up that 2nd line or you could create 3 lines that could carry the play IF Marner can drive a line. |
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Big23Questions
Detroit Red Wings |
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Location: CrkPlanet, BC Joined: 04.11.2018
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1. I wasn't asking you
2. The person I was asking doesn't feel he's their 3rd best player
3. Line numbers are theoretical , if he's as good as advertised at both ends of the rink he'll get as much ice time as he can handle
4. See 3, if he's that good he can turn anyone into a scorer.
5. If he's that good, why can't he carry his own line? Matthews and Nylander can - golfingsince
1. I’m not sure that’s how an open board of hockey chat works.
2. The person you were asking thinks he’s the best player of all time (and good on him for loving his boy). Not sure why that matters.
3. Line numbers are not at all theoretical. They are typically very calculated in their composition and matchups and they are deployed at specific times during the game.
4. He will never turn Kampf, Jarnkrok, Gregor, Knies or anyone in the bottom 6 of this lineup into any kind of a scorer. And that is saying alit cause he is a very very good playmaker.
5. He doesn’t have the skill sets to drive a line. |
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Big23Questions
Detroit Red Wings |
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Location: CrkPlanet, BC Joined: 04.11.2018
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Marner can play D so I’m willing to assume he’d handle playing LW just fine.
Bertuzzi Matthews Domi
Marner JT Nylander
That as a top six would be pretty damn sweet. - Dozzer
That would be a sweet tip 2 eh!
I completely see where you’re coming from man but just a difference of opinion. I’ve said it alit on here that I thing Marner is a fantastic PKer but 5v5 he makes really bad choices with the puck in all 3 zones and specifically where it typically kills ya - within a couple feet of the blue (both ends).
Marner will never play a regular of D in a meaningful game unless it’s an absolute emergency I don’t think. Spotting him when pushing for a goal, or when the team has a dman hurt late in a game or having him back there on the PP is one thing. But logging regular minutes no chance.
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Big23Questions
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Location: CrkPlanet, BC Joined: 04.11.2018
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I think it's fair to say that Matthews is a top 3 player, top 5 at worst. McDavid, MacKinnon, Matthews, Kucherov, Draisaitl?
Does he need help driving a line? I think he can handle it on his own. You could load up that 2nd line or you could create 3 lines that could carry the play IF Marner can drive a line. - golfingsince
Was he asking you? |
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golfingsince
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Location: This message is Marwood approved! Joined: 11.30.2011
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1. I’m not sure that’s how an open board of hockey chat works.
2. The person you were asking thinks he’s the best player of all time (and good on him for loving his boy). Not sure why that matters.
3. Line numbers are not at all theoretical. They are typically very calculated in their composition and matchups and they are deployed at specific times during the game.
4. He will never turn Kampf, Jarnkrok, Gregor, Knies or anyone in the bottom 6 of this lineup into any kind of a scorer. And that is saying alit cause he is a very very good playmaker.
5. He doesn’t have the skill sets to drive a line. - Big23Questions
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Big23Questions
Detroit Red Wings |
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Location: CrkPlanet, BC Joined: 04.11.2018
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No further questions - golfingsince
Alright bud - your obsession with this team is phenomenal eh.
You created an entire personality and avatar based on some inferiority complex you have with the Buds.
It’s literally 1967 v 1970….3 years dink.
#neverwonever
#1970
#canucksirrelevance
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golfingsince
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Location: This message is Marwood approved! Joined: 11.30.2011
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Was he asking you? - Big23Questions
As per above , I'm not sure that's how a chat board works.
You really aren't very good at this. It must be tough going through life being so angry. |
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golfingsince
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Location: This message is Marwood approved! Joined: 11.30.2011
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Alright bud - your obsession with this team is phenomenal eh.
You created an entire personality and avatar based on some inferiority complex you have with the Buds.
It’s literally 1967 v 1970….3 years dink.
#neverwonever
#1970
#canucksirrelevance
No further statements - Big23Questions
see above |
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Big23Questions
Detroit Red Wings |
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Location: CrkPlanet, BC Joined: 04.11.2018
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As per above , I'm not sure that's how a chat board works.
You really aren't very good at this. It must be tough going through life being so angry. - golfingsince
Ahh the ol’ you’re angry bit - love that man. You’re right, I’m furious. Stapling bagels to my face as I type. So mad! |
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golfingsince
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Location: This message is Marwood approved! Joined: 11.30.2011
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Ahh the ol’ you’re angry bit - love that man. You’re right, I’m furious. Stapling bagels to my face as I type. So mad! - Big23Questions
All I was trying to do was talk about how awesome Marner is and you couldn't help but drag the Canucks into it.
#obsessed |
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Big23Questions
Detroit Red Wings |
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Location: CrkPlanet, BC Joined: 04.11.2018
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All I was trying to do was talk about how awesome Marner is and you couldn't help but drag the Canucks into it.
#obsessed - golfingsince
Whoa whoa whoa calm down man! Geez you’re gonna have a heart attack man. Temper temper
I’m gonna excuse myself from this back and forth with you. I don’t wanna be the cause of aggressive behaviour |
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dmnted
Toronto Maple Leafs |
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Location: Space for Rent Joined: 08.30.2006
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Checkout Liljegren eyes ......
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dmnted
Toronto Maple Leafs |
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Location: Space for Rent Joined: 08.30.2006
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SIGN MAX DOMI RIGHT NOW!!
5x5
LETS GOOOOO!!!!! - Arctic_AARDVARK
Easy there
3.5M ....
but hey Nylander got 11.5M over 8 |
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Fakepartofme
Toronto Maple Leafs |
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Location: Living rent free... in your head, ON Joined: 09.20.2010
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91 and 89 pts now for Leafs 2 best players. Nice to see. I said it last game even though they lost and didn't light it up. Give Bertuzzi, Domi and Matthews a little run. - jribout
Two best players this season...not overall.
Yup, they lit it up against a team fighting for a playoff spot. Its a good start, lets see if they can be consistent against better teams. |
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Fakepartofme
Toronto Maple Leafs |
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Location: Living rent free... in your head, ON Joined: 09.20.2010
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Matthews just got 5 points without Marner.
Marner driving a 3rd line after Matthews and Nylander are driving the top 2 would be ideal. Besides, who wouldn't want Marner's elite defensive prowess playing 3rd line minutes while making the line a threat to score at any moment?
He could make up the balance of his usual minutes on special teams.
Why (frank) with a top line scoring that much? - golfingsince
Against a non playoff team and it was once.
AM is a $13m player, he shouldn't need another $10m+ player to get points.
But it was one game, the minute marner is back, has been eased back into games and fully healthy, he'll be back with Matthews.
A fun game to watch
Too bad ovi scored |
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Scabeh
Montreal Canadiens |
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Location: The Slovakian Jagr, QC Joined: 02.25.2007
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Checkout Liljegren eyes ......
- dmnted
They said it was mono.
But it was actually nano... as in nanobots!
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GalacticStone
Tampa Bay Lightning |
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Location: U Jealous of my Meteor Joined: 01.29.2013
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If there was ever any doubt about Matthews being a Super Saiyan with the power to rend mountains and shatter entire planets, that doubt is now removed.
By my rough count, Matthews has approx. 30 multi-point games this season, including two different 5-point games. |
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Canada Cup
Toronto Maple Leafs |
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Location: This world is just a veil and the face you wear is not your own., ON Joined: 07.06.2007
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I think it's fair to say that Matthews is a top 3 player, top 5 at worst. McDavid, MacKinnon, Matthews, Kucherov, Draisaitl?
Does he need help driving a line? I think he can handle it on his own. You could load up that 2nd line or you could create 3 lines that could carry the play IF Marner can drive a line. - golfingsince
Sure but why would you when Matthews plus either Marner or Nylander gives you one of the best duos in the league with enough left over for a strong second line plus lots of options for line 3? |
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Aaron_85
Toronto Maple Leafs |
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Location: Toronto, ON Joined: 04.22.2014
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Against a non playoff team and it was once.
AM is a $13m player, he shouldn't need another $10m+ player to get points.
But it was one game, the minute marner is back, has been eased back into games and fully healthy, he'll be back with Matthews.
A fun game to watch
Too bad ovi scored - Fakepartofme
What's wrong with Ovi scoring? He's going to have the record and should already have done it.
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GalacticStone
Tampa Bay Lightning |
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Location: U Jealous of my Meteor Joined: 01.29.2013
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Sure but why would you when Matthews plus either Marner or Nylander gives you one of the best duos in the league with enough left over for a strong second line plus lots of options for line 3? - Canada Cup
Has Marner ever been tried at center?
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Fakepartofme
Toronto Maple Leafs |
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Location: Living rent free... in your head, ON Joined: 09.20.2010
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What's wrong with Ovi scoring? He's going to have the record and should already have done it. - Aaron_85
Cause he scores alot against the leafs, it would be nice if it didnt occur. Is that ok?
Why should he already have it?
Plus it would be funny if he got close, but didnt get it.
But he will get it. |
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GalacticStone
Tampa Bay Lightning |
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Location: U Jealous of my Meteor Joined: 01.29.2013
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Cause he scores alot against the leafs, it would be nice if it didnt occur. Is that ok?
Why should he already have it?
Plus it would be great if he got close, but didnt get it. - Fakepartofme
I hope he never breaks the record, honestly.
The Great One is a class guy and I'd rather see Matthews break it. |
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Aaron_85
Toronto Maple Leafs |
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Location: Toronto, ON Joined: 04.22.2014
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Cause he scores alot against the leafs, it would be nice if it didnt occur. Is that ok?
Why should he already have it?
Plus it would be funny if he got close, but didnt get it.
But he will get it. - Fakepartofme
It was just a question
Ovi has had a lock out season, a shortened season due lock out AND covid. Otherwise he likely would have had it already. Maybe I'm wrong but I don't recall Gretz having seasons like that. |
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Fakepartofme
Toronto Maple Leafs |
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Location: Living rent free... in your head, ON Joined: 09.20.2010
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I hope he never breaks the record, honestly.
The Great One is a class guy and I'd rather see Matthews break it. - GalacticStone
Matthews would have to pick up his game a little bit to accomplish that (sounds weird i know).
After 8 seasons, Matthews is about 100pts behind where ovi was at.
Granted this one isnt over yet. |
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