Because it ends in OT or shootout we should throw out the 60 minutes they played prior?
- funmaster18

Because the game ended in OT or the shootout, it shouldn't be considered. It's not real hockey.

Does anyone think the team has quit on torts?
- hello it's me 2050

Not sure they quit on him. I would believe they are burnt out by his style and not getting much out of his demanding style and public lashings, though. If he’s here next year it will be clear early on if they quit on him though, imo.

So TSN is talking a lot about Torts...lots of negative feedback. Boudreau tears a strip off of his approach.

Watch all 4 videos...he is crashing hard...lol. Sooner than I thought.

https://www.tsn.ca/nhl/ph...o-push-athletes-1.2098943
- TheFreak

what you mean as cnt watch

I like the 3 on 3…I think it needs a tweak or two so that there’s less wasted time….but it’s far better than the shoot out. I would expand it to 10 minutes….no winner then it’s a tie.
- landros 2

i just don't like the keep-away. to me 3 on 3 is just a time-waster. I'm not in love with shootouts but maybe if they get rid of 3 on 3 teams will be more driven to win in regulation since there's no "getting a point out of it" mentality. you either win or you don't

imagine how exciting this would make OT since we'd only see it in the playoffs and winning those games in a sudden death situation is far more exciting than some regular season game.

I know I kinda of sorta luke-warmly gave Tortorella a pass yesterday for his presser meltdown. After reading so many of your arguments and positions, reviewing the presser again, and reading so many articles, blurbs or interviews on the subject, I change my mind. Yes, a lot of credit goes to the many posters here and I try to maintain an open mind and not get wed to a particular opinion. So on this, I am now on board with that was not a good display nor necessarily the best way to inspire your floundering team. But I can’t help but wonder who exactly was he calling out. True the team played like pure watery poop in the 2nd period and was single-handed saved by the Herculean effort on one Ivan Fedotov. But sometimes that happens and that’s where goalies can sometimes steal
A game or even a series. They gutted it out in the 3rd and played better.

Then I go back to the Courturier benching which I was critical of the coach and his way of handling it. Aside from him apologizing to Sandstrom and publicly announcing it, has he taken any blame or responsibility for any of the misfortune this year? While the players play and deserve most of the credit and blame in any game, the coach does have to be accountable as well. We see players all the time in interviews say “I need to play better” or “yeah that 2b and 3rd goal is like to have back”. Where is the coach saying, “maybe my system needs tweaking” or “had we practiced the PowerPlay more” or “I shouldn’t have expected so much from that guy coming off of a 2year injury and playing over 20 minutes a game the first 2/3 of the season at age 30”.

Shake my head.
- mikeyo27

He’s not one to take blame but did say today he has done a pooptty job the last few weeks in conveying to his team what’s need to finish the Job and get them into the playoffs. He’s not going to apologize for his methods to get as much out of each guy as possible. He’s see’s that as a positive….to him the result is as important, if not the only thing that matters.

Not sure they quit on him. I would believe they are burnt out by his style and not getting much out of his demanding style and public lashings, though. If he’s here next year it will be clear early on if they quit on him though, imo.
- funmaster18

They've given him all they have and and have been overachieving. That they're out of gas is not an indication of quitting on him. Tortorella stating that they have no balls is an bumhole move.

Saw most of them. The issue to me is that the coach can handle that much better. He can be respectful at the presser and display dissatisfaction with his team. State that the way they played, especially in the 2nd period was unacceptable. That they have to be better and they have to find a way to fix it. Gets the point across. Then the coach can in the privacy of the locker room, tear into the team to their face. That's the professional way to handle it. Instead, he goes off the deep end and says the team has no balls. The players who have been playing their asses off for him. Completely buying in to the shot blocking and the pain that comes with that. Skating and playing their asses off. Now, all of a sudden they don't have any balls? That is completely unprofessional and uncalled for. There is a lot of negative press going on towards Tortorella and many saying its the beginning of the end. I pray that they're correct but I have my doubts.
- MJL

do you know for a fact he didn't do that already?

They've given him all they have and and have been overachieving. That they're out of gas is not an indication of quitting on him. Tortorella stating that they have no balls is an bumhole move.
- MJL

those poor millionaires lol

He’s not one to take blame but did say today he has done a pooptty job the last few weeks in conveying to his team what’s need to finish the Job and get them into the playoffs. He’s not going to apologize for his methods to get as much out of each guy as possible. He’s see’s that as a positive….to him the result is as important, if not the only thing that matters.
- landros 2

and if the Flyers miss he will take no accountability whatsoever. It will be all on the players who have played at a playoff pace the entire year. It will be the "we still have work to do in the locker room" and next thing a few young players are traded in the offseason.

Not sure they quit on him. I would believe they are burnt out by his style and not getting much out of his demanding style and public lashings, though. If he’s here next year it will be clear early on if they quit on him though, imo.
- funmaster18

I think the Flyers will be somewhat energized on Friday after three days off. I think this is especially true with Ersson. He will be sharp. Does Torts credit for them being energized?

I like the 3 on 3…I think it needs a tweak or two so that there’s less wasted time….but it’s far better than the shoot out. I would expand it to 10 minutes….no winner then it’s a tie.
- landros 2

It would be nice if they eliminated the ability to just skate out of the offensive zone to skate back to their own zone to regroup. Maybe restrict them to only going as far back as the neutral zone or something to regroup otherwise take a faceoff in their d-zone. I don’t know. But the time spent on regrouping is brutal to watch.

do you know for a fact he didn't do that already?
- hello it's me 2050

Couturier confirmed Torts did not do that in his situation.

Couturier confirmed Torts did not do that in his situation.
- mickel25

yes his situation, not the team.

They've given him all they have and and have been overachieving. That they're out of gas is not an indication of quitting on him. Tortorella stating that they have no balls is an bumhole move.
- MJL

Yeah, I agree. The public shaming is something that doesn’t work very long, especially at this point in the season when the team is clearly playing on fumes. The tenacity and grit they showed the first half is gone. Subtract walker, lose seeler and drysdale for bit, compounded by other guys being banged up and playing 4th line players from another era of hockey is a recipe for disaster for a team that relies primarily on effort.

Couturier confirmed Torts did not do that in his situation.
- mickel25

Both Couts and his agent confirmed it. From what I understand Torts does not speak to the players all that much individually.

I think the Flyers will be somewhat energized on Friday after three days off. I think this is especially true with Ersson. He will be sharp. Does Torts credit for them being energized?
- mickel25

I have no idea what he will do but I’m sure I won’t be surprised. It is a blessing though that they have this three day break. Hopefully it’s enough to regroup and make a final push here.

Both Couts and his agent confirmed it. From what I understand Torts does not speak to the players all that much individually.
- Flyfly

any ex selke injury update out there?

and if the Flyers miss he will take no accountability whatsoever. It will be all on the players who have played at a playoff pace the entire year. It will be the "we still have work to do in the locker room" and next thing a few young players are traded in the offseason.
- Flyfly

Actually it will be they just don’t have the talent….and some guys don’t have “the balls” to play in playoff type games. They’ll focus on the positives from the year and skirt over the failures, because they did surpass expectations.

yes his situation, not the team.
- hello it's me 2050

I think Frost eluded to the same treatment. TK and Hayes confirmed it last year.

Seems like his m. o. But at least he holds everyone accountable.

any ex selke injury update out there?
- hello it's me 2050

Torts said day to day….I doubt that.

I have no idea what he will do but I’m sure I won’t be surprised. It is a blessing though that they have this three day break. Hopefully it’s enough to regroup and make a final push here.
- funmaster18

As Torts likes to say - they have to find their "balls" before Friday. My hope is they come out and play a good game. I want them to make the playoffs at this point; otherwise, GMDB just kicked the can down the road at the deadline for the "rebuild."

any ex selke injury update out there?
- hello it's me 2050

My guess is he does not play again this year. Looked a lot like Drysdale when he got injured. I have no insider information of course. But Coots not coming back into the game is a bad sign. That dude would play through just about anything.

It would be nice if they eliminated the ability to just skate out of the offensive zone to skate back to their own zone to regroup. Maybe restrict them to only going as far back as the neutral zone or something to regroup otherwise take a faceoff in their d-zone. I don’t know. But the time spent on regrouping is brutal to watch.
- funmaster18

That’s the type of tweaking I meant. 👍

Actually it will be they just don’t have the talent….and some guys don’t have “the balls” to play in playoff type games. They’ll focus on the positives from the year and skirt over the failures, because they did surpass expectations.
- landros 2

Absolutely... and they did exceed expectations. I would never argue that.

My guess is he does not play again this year. Looked a lot like Drysdale when he got injured. I have no insider information of course. But Coots not coming back into the game is a bad sign. That dude would play through just about anything.
- mickel25

I feel the same way. It did not look good and don't expect him back anytime soon. And as you said, he would play through anything. GMDB confirmed that when he said Couts was dealing with 5 injuries at the same time while playing nearly 20 mins a night.