The charts will soon turn into exactly what Tom always did with the charts. Discussion about hockey, but then finds a chart to say otherwise. Just like the stupid win’o’meter, we should’ve lost the Yotes game but won the Pens game? Makes complete sense. Definitely something we should be discussing/looking at.

Tom has been banned for YEARS at a time for being a troll. And that’s exactly what he’s doing once again. Dude made a new account, to circumvent his last ban.

You guys are right though, let’s keep looking at charts that mean absolutely nothing. And when the eye test is working just fine; let’s find a chart to say otherwise.

Jan, appreciate the blogs over the years. Hopefully this is the year we go all the way.
- nyrangers9479

Yeah, this is 100% a YOU problem. Tom posts the charts without even commenting and you go nuts.
Not one person has said the charts overrule what we watch with our eyes. Tom may have said on occasion that they quantify everything to a degree. Most disagree. Either way, YOU make way too big a deal over the whole situation. Period. Full stop.
Try scrolling passed them and see how that feels.

it's the same price no matter who signs him though
- picklerick

Really? There’s no bidding war for him between teams ? surprising.

Really? There’s no bidding war for him between teams ? surprising.
- Greschnergy#4

yeah it's a standard entry level contract, I think the only incentive a team could have is making it start immediately so his first year is this current season and he becomes eligible to sign his 2nd contract quicker

yeah it's a standard entry level contract, I think the only incentive a team could have is making it start immediately so his first year is this current season and he becomes eligible to sign his 2nd contract quicker
- jimbro83

Not that it would stand in anyone's way, but there is a range of around $250,000 that ELC's can span, no? Like, I think the min. is $725,000 or $735,000, right? I thought they could sign as high as you like, just that most rookies don't warrant going too high over that.

Not that it would stand in anyone's way, but there is a range of around $250,000 that ELC's can span, no? Like, I think the min. is $725,000 or $735,000, right? I thought they could sign as high as you like, just that most rookies don't warrant going too high over that.
- Tonybere

I think it's 925K contract per season, but the teams do differ in terms of bonuses

whatever it is, I am pretty confident Rangers would offer the most they can

The charts will soon turn into exactly what Tom always did with the charts. Discussion about hockey, but then finds a chart to say otherwise. Just like the stupid win’o’meter, we should’ve lost the Yotes game but won the Pens game? Makes complete sense. Definitely something we should be discussing/looking at.

Tom has been banned for YEARS at a time for being a troll. And that’s exactly what he’s doing once again. Dude made a new account, to circumvent his last ban.

You guys are right though, let’s keep looking at charts that mean absolutely nothing. And when the eye test is working just fine; let’s find a chart to say otherwise.

Jan, appreciate the blogs over the years. Hopefully this is the year we go all the way.
- nyrangers9479

The money puck win o meter charts are definitely too closely skewed to shot totals imo. It was mentioned that every team has an analytics department as proof of their worth. of course they all need an analytics department for contract negotiations where you need similars and objectivity

The other money puck graph had Fox at the bottom on the game where he got the first star and bway hat - it was just the other day

The money puck win o meter charts are definitely too closely skewed to shot totals imo. It was mentioned that every team has an analytics department as proof of their worth. of course they all need an analytics department for contract negotiations where you need similars and objectivity
- Greschnergy#4

Yes.

The money puck win o meter charts are definitely too closely skewed to shot totals imo. It was mentioned that every team has an analytics department as proof of their worth. of course they all need an analytics department for contract negotiations where you need similars and objectivity

The other money puck graph had Fox at the bottom on the game where he got the first star and bway hat - it was just the other day
- Greschnergy#4

I wonder why teams bother hiring their own analytics teams if Money Puck is so perfect, seems like waste of money

I wonder why teams bother hiring their own analytics teams if Money Puck is so perfect, seems like waste of money
- jimbro83

Haha- you’re right money puck kinda blows

Haha- you’re right money puck kinda blows
- Greschnergy#4

I can go on twitter and find analytics and send them to the Rangers, can I get a job doing that?

I wonder why teams bother hiring their own analytics teams if Money Puck is so perfect, seems like waste of money
- jimbro83

Money puck is far from perfect. What it is, is an at-a-glance snapshot of what some aspect of the game looked like.
The facts of life have not changed: You can watch a hockey game without analytics and understand what went on. You cannot watch analytics without a hockey game and know the same.

I wonder why teams bother hiring their own analytics teams if Money Puck is so perfect, seems like waste of money
- jimbro83

Listen, if you have access to internal databases, send over those links. WE can rock and roll.

I can go on twitter and find analytics and send them to the Rangers, can I get a job doing that?
- jimbro83

You can get a job with money puck selling to rubes

Money puck is far from perfect. What it is, is an at-a-glance snapshot of what some aspect of the game looked like.
The facts of life have not changed: You can watch a hockey game without analytics and understand what went on. You cannot watch analytics without a hockey game and know the same.
- Tonybere

do I really have to respond to this

do I really have to respond to this
- jimbro83

I’ve never said anything remotely close to this can you focus on him now instead of me

I can go on twitter and find analytics and send them to the Rangers, can I get a job doing that?
- jimbro83

Yes, the position is 'Smug Journalist'

do I really have to respond to this
- jimbro83

Well, you've never really had to respond to anything else either...

JFresh
@JFreshHockey
Let's remember a guy...

Michael Sauer played two seasons for the New York Rangers in '10 and '11. He had a 57% expected goal share and a 62% goal share at 5v5; NYR outscored opponents 63 to 38 in his minutes.

He was concussed by Phaneuf in Dec 2011 and never played again. #NYR

Well, you've never really had to respond to anything else either...
- Tonybere

you are saying that all Tom does it post analytics, doesn't say anything else, and we all have the right just to scroll past it

however, how does this work when Tom uses the analytics to say why he thinks a player should be scratched, traded and not re-signed, do we just scroll by that too?

- mdw7413

I tried, but, they absolutely insist

I tried, but, they absolutely insist
- jimbro83

Let's go to the abyss.

Let's go to the abyss.
- JRR1285

may as well at this point

you are saying that all Tom does it post analytics, doesn't say anything else, and we all have the right just to scroll past it

however, how does this work when Tom uses the analytics to say why he thinks a player should be scratched, traded and not re-signed, do we just scroll by that too?
- jimbro83

So now we disagree on Michael Sauer being a good hockey player? That's a new one...

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@NYRangers
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#NYR have agreed to terms with forward Kalle Vasianen on a three-year, entry-level contract. Full details: http://nyrange.rs/3vAj6pm