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Stayin alive
Joined: 06.10.2021

Apr 6 @ 4:57 PM ET
they will never get it. that is also why i want them to lose and hit as far to bottom as you can get
- hello it's me 2050

Still a little hope. Db has at least said the words (rebuild). Baby steps.
furio16
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Moscow, ID
Joined: 06.07.2007

Apr 6 @ 4:59 PM ET
Not defending at all.

The flyers pushed him way to hard. The lack of talent and torts sitting frost took a toll on coots because of the racking up of minutes.

But coots could have spoken up and didn't. He is a true hockey player, pkau through pain and injuries. Which I luv about hockey players. Just at some point he could have spoke with the coach and said cut my minutes a bit.

- WhiskeyMan

Knowing his past history the organization has a responsibility to protect their asset.

How do you know he didn’t speak up to some extent?

Bottom line is it is an organizational failure to not limit his minutes and have a plan of action to ease him back.
hello it's me 2050
Location: AR
Joined: 05.14.2021

Apr 6 @ 5:00 PM ET
Still a little hope. Db has at least said the words (rebuild). Baby steps.
- Stayin alive

"jonesy" said no rebuild.
THE EVIL WITHIN
Location: NJ
Joined: 11.20.2017

Apr 6 @ 5:12 PM ET
"jonesy" said no rebuild.
- hello it's me 2050

And he is supposed to be the "commander in chief" But i think the power structure is Torts>>>Brière>>>Jonsey>>>Jim Jackson>>>Tim Panaccio 🤡 🤣
Keyser soze
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 12.28.2020

Apr 6 @ 5:14 PM ET
Crosby tied Gretzky for most consecutive seasons averaging a point per game. I think it's 20 seasons. He's an all time great but not the GOAT
- MJL
You seem to have lots of opinions on how not to do things. If you want credibility tell us all your solutions. Who would you trade how would you acquire elite talent. Essentially what’s your game plan. You have taken the the time to study the salary cap so I’m assuming you have put the same dedication into how to fix the Flyers. I look forward to hearing your thoughts.
ClaudeFather
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: west haven, CT
Joined: 08.14.2015

Apr 6 @ 5:18 PM ET
You seem to have lots of opinions on how not to do things. If you want credibility tell us all your solutions. Who would you trade how would you acquire elite talent. Essentially what’s your game plan. You have taken the the time to study the salary cap so I’m assuming you have put the same dedication into how to fix the Flyers. I look forward to hearing your thoughts.
- Keyser soze

Draft and develop obviously, easy stuff
hello it's me 2050
Location: AR
Joined: 05.14.2021

Apr 6 @ 5:20 PM ET
You seem to have lots of opinions on how not to do things. If you want credibility tell us all your solutions. Who would you trade how would you acquire elite talent. Essentially what’s your game plan. You have taken the the time to study the salary cap so I’m assuming you have put the same dedication into how to fix the Flyers. I look forward to hearing your thoughts.
- Keyser soze

now this is funny he rarely ever offers any solutions. he says trade tk but never says what is an acceptable offer.

draft and develop is all he parrots after his dad said it.
Just5
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: PA
Joined: 05.22.2008

Apr 6 @ 5:41 PM ET
now this is funny he rarely ever offers any solutions. he says trade tk but never says what is an acceptable offer.

draft and develop is all he parrots after his dad said it.

- hello it's me 2050


An acceptable offer for konecny is two 1sts from a contender or a league wide top 10 prospect and their 2nd.
2Real
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: IT'S GRITTIN TIME, CA
Joined: 07.14.2007

Apr 6 @ 5:43 PM ET
An acceptable offer for konecny is two 1sts from a contender or a league wide top 10 prospect and their 2nd.
- Just5

basically a richards or carter like return
hello it's me 2050
Location: AR
Joined: 05.14.2021

Apr 6 @ 5:46 PM ET
An acceptable offer for konecny is two 1sts from a contender or a league wide top 10 prospect and their 2nd.
- Just5

want to hear what cliff will deem a good deal.
hello it's me 2050
Location: AR
Joined: 05.14.2021

Apr 6 @ 6:05 PM ET
https://twitter.com/jason...5E%7Ctwcon%5Es1_&ref_url=
THE BLACK HAND
Joined: 06.09.2021

Apr 6 @ 6:10 PM ET
Maybe the point is that the Flyers will be paying Coots to be a 1st line center when he's even older than Crosby is now and that was just never going to be the reality that Coots could do that.

Generational talents can play into their late 30s and be effective. OV, Crosby, etc. That's not Coots, never was.

- Flyers_01

that wasnt the point
MBFlyerfan
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Be nice from now on, NJ
Joined: 03.17.2006

Apr 6 @ 6:11 PM ET
Looks like Ginning and Attard may be in and Staal and Johnson out.


https://twitter.com/Dylan...tatus/1776728276062674997
StepfordSam
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Philadelphia, PA
Joined: 02.06.2017

Apr 6 @ 6:13 PM ET
https://twitter.com/jasonmyrt/status/1775671467180491213?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw%7Ctwcamp%5Etweetembed%7Ctwterm%5E1775671467180491213%7Ctwgr%5E%7Ctwcon%5Es1_&ref_url=
- hello it's me 2050


Good lord I knew Myrtetus was a bag holder for the Flyers but I didn’t realize he held Tortorella’s jock.
Feanor
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: DE
Joined: 02.13.2013

Apr 6 @ 6:13 PM ET
For anyone who missed it in the last blog...

This team is crap without a healthy Couturier. We saw it all last season, and again this season since Couturier missed those games in January with an undisclosed injury and then started to really struggle. Torts isn’t coach of the year in 23-24 anymore than he was in 22-23. The major difference was they got 40ish games of Couturier playing at a high level.

Flyers in 22-23: .457 P% (26th)

Flyers this season until Couturier got hurt on January 12: .595 (12th)

Since then: .471 (23rd)

2Real
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: IT'S GRITTIN TIME, CA
Joined: 07.14.2007

Apr 6 @ 6:13 PM ET
Looks like Ginning and Attard may be in and Staal and Johnson out.


https://twitter.com/Dylan...tatus/1776728276062674997

- MBFlyerfan

yay!
mr4tno
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: PA
Joined: 06.29.2017

Apr 6 @ 6:14 PM ET
I just want to know what the point of sitting Attard and Ginning is, when the Phantoms are also fighting for a playoff spot.
- MBFlyerfan

It is mis-management of epic proportions on all levels....First, we are rebuilding so naturally we sit 3 rookies and play the oldest d-pair in the history of the league. So if they are not going to play the rookies, shouldn't they allow them to help the Phantoms get into the playoffs? Afterall, of all the bullpoop they spewed this year, making the playoffs is absolutely vital to development.
THE BLACK HAND
Joined: 06.09.2021

Apr 6 @ 6:14 PM ET
https://twitter.com/jasonmyrt/status/1775671467180491213?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw%7Ctwcamp%5Etweetembed%7Ctwterm%5E1775671467180491213%7Ctwgr%5E%7Ctwcon%5Es1_&ref_url=
- hello it's me 2050

ok, jason, you complete organizational kiss ass
Feanor
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: DE
Joined: 02.13.2013

Apr 6 @ 6:16 PM ET
Not defending at all.

The flyers pushed him way to hard. The lack of talent and torts sitting frost took a toll on coots because of the racking up of minutes.

But coots could have spoken up and didn't. He is a true hockey player, pkau through pain and injuries. Which I luv about hockey players. Just at some point he could have spoke with the coach and said cut my minutes a bit.

- WhiskeyMan


Absolute insanity that up until January 12th where he got injured against Minnesota, Couturier played 802 minutes and Frost played 471.

https://www.nhl.com/stats...eOnIce&page=0&pageSize=50
Hextall271
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Ersson-Ville, NB, NB
Joined: 01.18.2007

Apr 6 @ 6:19 PM ET
For anyone who missed it in the last blog...

This team is crap without a healthy Couturier. We saw it all last season, and again this season since Couturier missed those games in January with an undisclosed injury and then started to really struggle. Torts isn’t coach of the year in 23-24 anymore than he was in 22-23. The major difference was they got 40ish games of Couturier playing at a high level.

Flyers in 22-23: .457 P% (26th)

Flyers this season until Couturier got hurt on January 12: .595 (12th)

Since then: .471 (23rd)

- Feanor



I agree. It’s been this way for many years. Without coots, they really struggle
Trox88
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 08.12.2020

Apr 6 @ 6:21 PM ET
basically a richards or carter like return
- 2Real


I don t think Briere can get top prospects along with the 1st rdr for TK. Carter and Richards were already locked in long-term. TK is under contract for ,1 more year. I would assume a G type return. Arguably Tippett at the time was the Cats 3rd rated prospect. Worked out pretty well.
2Real
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: IT'S GRITTIN TIME, CA
Joined: 07.14.2007

Apr 6 @ 6:27 PM ET
umpires can be real poop
StepfordSam
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Philadelphia, PA
Joined: 02.06.2017

Apr 6 @ 6:28 PM ET
I would use the brain power to guess at an acceptable return for TK but they aren’t trading him. So I won’t bother.
MBFlyerfan
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Be nice from now on, NJ
Joined: 03.17.2006

Apr 6 @ 6:36 PM ET
I don t think Briere can get top prospects along with the 1st rdr for TK. Carter and Richards were already locked in long-term. TK is under contract for ,1 more year. I would assume a G type return. Arguably Tippett at the time was the Cats 3rd rated prospect. Worked out pretty well.
- Trox88



One difference I will point out is that there is no NMC where Konecny can dictate where he wants to go. This would hopefully open up many options.
wcorvette
Season Ticket Holder
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Boynton Beach, FL
Joined: 10.03.2010

Apr 6 @ 6:41 PM ET
Looks like Ginning and Attard may be in and Staal and Johnson out.


https://twitter.com/Dylan...tatus/1776728276062674997

- MBFlyerfan



lol, Torts for pushing a lot of right buttons, had pushed all the wrongs ones lately. That said, we keep saying they are losing to lesser teams and that is not really true
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