As I’ve shown in the past,( not that anyone follows my views or cares… lol) my opinions on the guys in charge can change. I try to give the benefit of the doubt but don’t like being fed BS comments when the actual actions say something different. I think DB has done some decent things but also been part of some things that are not good for the teams future.
I’m really on the fence and am interested to see if there is a plan or is it Fletcher 2.O.
- landros 2

It is tough to judge db now because he isn’t in full control. While no gm can be totally honest for obvious reasons what is troubling to me is the cg situation. Anyone that thinks they got fair value in trade is delusional. Be that as it may at first the narrative and spin was a “(frank) him. We don’t want him if he doesn’t want to be here” and fans are it up. I did too at first knee jerk reaction. But after letting it digest it was a horrible mistake. A huge waste of a major asset. The fact that either db or the trio proceeded as they did full on media cover tracks assault on player concerns me. That trade is gonna bite them for awhile. And it’s nothing againgst Drysdale as he could turn out decent. But the narrative behind it all is troubling.

but they WONT
- THE BLACK HAND

Hey I have my doubts for sure.

Hey I have my doubts for sure.
- Stayin alive

my point is, they wont strip it and gut it the way it needs to be doent

York is a 2 dman
- 2Real

Hopefully

my point is, they wont strip it and gut it the way it needs to be doent
- THE BLACK HAND

That’s the thing. They don’t even need to fully strip it down. They have some good young pieces

would you:

- trade a 3rd rd pick to move ND? knowing they will not waive him.

- clean house and buy out: Cal, Cam, RyJo. Has to be all 3 for the sake of this discussion.

-trade the florida 2024 1st or the 2025 avs 1st for a young potential 2nd pair dman or 2nd line center?
- hello it's me 2050

- No. They need draft capital

- No. They don’t need the extra cap space as currently constructed and shouldn’t be in on any expensive UFAs. In fact this years UFAs aren’t interesting at all.

- Maybe Florida’s this year if they can land a young bona fide 2C.

The RFAs this year are intriguing and may be worth monitoring and trying to offfer sheet. While most of these kids should be signed by their current teams before FA begins, here’s just a sample: Seider, Byfield, Neces, Beniers,
Sillinger, Mercer.

But next year unless they probably don’t need the cap space so why eat any buyouts. If Johansen or Atkinson want a trade, let their agents find one or bury them on the Phantoms. Peterson is an albatross of a contract and just eat it until they actually are ready to spend some money.

Ha ha, 340 comments on here today. Yeah, there ain't a chance in hell that I'm back reading any of it. I can only imagine.

I don’t tend to get political but if you’d like I could list what Obama ran on (the change) and what actually got accomplished but I will warn you it doesn’t end good for Obama. And I don’t blame him at all. No president can deliver the ridiculous “change” and campaign promises. Not in today’s politics.
- Stayin alive

This is indeed not the place for such discussion. I am very aware of his many failures, including many avoidable ones.

But that was not what your statement was though. You said he accomplished nothing in absolute terms, not that he underachieved relative to promises.

I am very sorry that you consider the two achievements I spoke of as part of empty advertising. I will simply say the non-neanderthal world disagrees with you and leave it at that.

This is indeed not the place for such discussion. I am very aware of his many failures, including many avoidable ones.

But that was not what your statement was though. You said he accomplished nothing in absolute terms, not that he underachieved relative to promises.

I am very sorry that you consider the two achievements I spoke of as part of empty advertising. I will simply say the non-neanderthal world disagrees with you and leave it at that.
- PT21

need the Donald to save democracy in 2024

at what point does clayton keller ask out of Arizona?

That isn’t the only thing you don’t understand. Your pretty much wrong about most everything.
- bird_dog_pa

Dear Sir,

I note your continued enthusiasm for intellectual interaction with me. Regrettably, I must once again abstain for the following reasons.

1. You have yet again failed to demonstrate the awareness of the distinction between "you are" and 'your'.

2. You have yet to provide me with verifiable proof of your vasectomy performed because of your acceptance that you are a reproductive hazard for the spread of stupidity.

Once those minor issues have been corrected, I will be delighted to discuss your very interesting claim that empirically verified opinions are in fact empirically verified opinions.

Yours in regret,

pt

Of course you would. You're not capable of providing an accurate answer on anything on the sport of hockey.
- MJL

You sound like a child.

and how are the Sixers attendance, ratings and merchandise sales post tank
- THE BLACK HAND

I think you know...

Harris is a hedge fund guy. Those guys make money buying undervalued assets, accepting the short term losses for the sake of long term gains. More of an entrepreneur mindset, where as Comcast is more of a salaried employee mindset. Different business model....

I think you know...

Harris is a hedge fund guy. Those guys make money buying undervalued assets, accepting the short term losses for the sake of long term gains. More of an entrepreneur mindset, where as Comcast is more of a salaried employee mindset. Different business model....
- PT21

- THE BLACK HAND

One more thing: The potential profits are far larger for NBA success compared to hockey success. Hockey is a niche sport and teams like Flyers are 90% maxed out at any given time. But if Sixers reach the stratosphere, suddenly 1 billion folks in China want to buy Sixers merchandise. So, the economic tradeoffs are much better in favor of tanking.

It is tough to judge db now because he isn’t in full control. While no gm can be totally honest for obvious reasons what is troubling to me is the cg situation. Anyone that thinks they got fair value in trade is delusional. Be that as it may at first the narrative and spin was a “(frank) him. We don’t want him if he doesn’t want to be here” and fans are it up. I did too at first knee jerk reaction. But after letting it digest it was a horrible mistake. A huge waste of a major asset. The fact that either db or the trio proceeded as they did full on media cover tracks assault on player concerns me. That trade is gonna bite them for awhile. And it’s nothing againgst Drysdale as he could turn out decent. But the narrative behind it all is troubling.
- Stayin alive

I wouldn’t have traded him. At least until next year. I thought the argument was flawed that they needed to do it before it got out ? Why ? If he continued on this path I don’t think his value would have dropped. No they didn’t get fair market. All that said (frank) that kid.

You mean the guy who inherited an economic crisis that was the greatest since the great depression and put together a bipartisan team of economists who brought about a recovery far quicker than any other country on earth was able to do? The guy who passed the most sweeping domestic legislation in the US in the past 50 years, fighting both extreme political opposition and public opinion to a present situation where it is now very solidly popular for many years?

I don't understand this penchant for off the cuff national commentary for no obvious reason, especially since here it is almost invariably stupid.
- PT21

Banks did the heavy lifting. QE aka money printing to infinity did the trick. Banks, insurers and car makers got bailouts. The manufacturing base declined further. The national debt increased 95.3%

York is a 2 dman
- 2Real

Debatable.

1. One can pull off the drill sergeant shtick when the team is winning. Public opinion is fickle, and will start to sway if there are collapses. I don't mean to suggest it will be "100% against Torts" but people in the middle will swing away.
- PT21

It's a cult of personality (see the PM I sent you). Winning is fun. But so is watching the dude who says things as they are eviscerate everybody around him. As long as the fans stay entertained in that regard and they continue to believe that this ongoing culture thing is legit, they're gonna stay on board with him.

I haven't seen any meaningful cracks so far in his support. The only real negative reviews on his performance are coming out of Canada and that's easy enough for the fanbase to dismiss.

2. In all of those situations, it was a single player. Saying the entire team is a bunch of quitters/soft/lack balls is different esp if the team is losing. Ok,so if the team is full of quitters, does that mean you get rid of young talent like York, Foerster, Farabee, ? What do you with the 8 year terms of Sanheim/SC? And what does it say about the management who put the team together? And why should fans come to watch quitters? Commercially, this cannot be sustained.
- PT21

He didn't say the whole team lacked balls or were soft tho. He said certain players were.

He's gonna wanna jettison certain players again this summer. It's virtually guaranteed. Because as long as there are player scapegoats the owners and fans won't point the finger at him.

Danny made Hayes' elephantine contract disappear. He got rid of Provy with term. I'm sure there are a myriad of (probably painful) ways he could get rid of Sanheim, even Coots, if Torts pushed him hard enough to do it.

at what point does clayton keller ask out of Arizona?
- hello it's me 2050

Didn't you hear, coyotes are moving to Utah!

at what point does clayton keller ask out of Arizona?
- hello it's me 2050

He'll be in Salt Lake soon enough.

Dreger says Flyer sources are saying Torts won’t be leaving the bench.

Dreger says Flyer sources are saying Torts won’t be leaving the bench.
- Minnyhock

The Standard isn't fully in place yet.

Once he gets all the players he doesn't like flushed out and properly brainwashes their replacements, he'll head upstairs.

The Standard isn't fully in place yet.

Once he gets all the players he doesn't like flushed out and properly brainwashes their replacements, he'll head upstairs.
- Tomahawk

The question is how soon until the Flyers fan base figures it out? I figure a couple of seasons until they turn again. How easily they are appeased. Speaking of brainwashed.

Dreger says Flyer sources are saying Torts won’t be leaving the bench.
- Minnyhock

Drat! And I was waiting for the Babcock announcement.