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DarthKane
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: 5.13.4.9
Joined: 02.23.2012

Apr 11 @ 1:30 PM ET
Wouldn't that be something if we brought in Bieksa?

I can't wait until Vosters is gone. His lack of knowledge of the game irks me. That said, after a few more years, he can only get better with what he learns if he's still around.

- Popsghostly


He's done well on Sportsnet as an analyst between periods, I'd give him a shot. I don't think they'll get rid of Vosters yet, they'll give him a chance to develop in the role. I think they knew what they were getting when they hired Vosters.

ObeseOprah
Chicago Blackhawks
Joined: 01.17.2014

Apr 11 @ 1:42 PM ET
Zaitsev will not be in the NHL after this year. Tinordi might get a job for Tortorella or some other hardo coach, but it shouldn’t be here. Megna and Murphy are about as replacement level as replacement level gets, except one somehow has an A and another year on his contract.

Here’s to hoping that some of del Mastro, Allan, or Kaiser stick full time next year.
LAHawk
Chicago Blackhawks
Joined: 11.02.2017

Apr 11 @ 1:48 PM ET
Well the Reichel with Bedard experiment lasted one game


Mario Tirabassi
@Mario_Tirabassi
Foligno is back with Bedard and Kurashev

Slaggert is up with Richardinson and Anderson

Blackwell is with Donato and Entwistle

Reichel with Athanasiou and TJohnson


Mario Tirabassi
@Mario_Tirabassi
Ethan Del Mastro and Kevin Korchinski skating together before #Blackhawks practice

World Junior Gold Medal teammates reunited
#HOTR
6628
Joined: 08.24.2009

Apr 11 @ 1:50 PM ET
He's done well on Sportsnet as an analyst between periods, I'd give him a shot. I don't think they'll get rid of Vosters yet, they'll give him a chance to develop in the role. I think they knew what they were getting when they hired Vosters.
- DarthKane


They were looking for someone who was adept with social media first. Hockey knowledge was second at best. If they had hockey as the priority Wideman should be doing tv.
wiz1901
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: DraftSite com, IL
Joined: 05.14.2008

Apr 11 @ 1:54 PM ET
I enjoyed the Athletic piece on Carter Yakemchuk today.

He currently has 30 goals, 71 points, 120 pims. 38th best in the dub overall...

Zayne Parekh's current 33 goal-96 points in 66 games pace with 64 pims, 8th best in the OHL overall.

This 2024 super defenseman class has my head spinning on how each and every guy from Artyom Levshunov, to Sam Richardinson, to Anton Silayev to Denvers Zeev Biulum will eventually slot in on NHL rosters, thus determining their possible final selection spots.

Do you think the Hawks feel they have solved the future first pair? Or even their SECOND?

I see the boards whipping guy, Jones as their best all around specimen, Valic asa solid contributor inside the top two pairings somewhere, and the boards other whipping boy Korchinski is a effortless skater, with terrific feet, and a good eye with his passing has upside all around

I don't watch many entire Rockford games but I watched 3 recently and feel that both Allen and especially Del Mastro isn't close to AHL prime time. That Phillips imo, is close to his high water mark as a pro, and that Crevier hasn't reached hi high water mark. (I will like seeing Del Mastro in the bigs to see if he shores up on his puck possessions and reactions! I am a still fan!)

But I don't think that defensive corps is set.
The developing depth with Kaiser, Crevier and the rest and the current young guys getting chance now at very least gives the Blackhawks plenty of depth to fill the bottom three defense slots (and another in the press box), so that is the good thing as other teams do not have his luxury of numbers.

I think they still have their eyes of a guy who can add offensive and not in a pass, or "all-around roundness."

I am going to say Kyle's staff has gotta feel that they only potentially have added 4 young candidates to help in the possible top 6, and they HAVE TO be leaning towards adding EARLY in the first THERE, but what happens if that draft FOURTH?

My board has FOUR forwards gone, and maybe a stretch. Demidov isn't in that mix (EVERY f-ng video displays him legs in the splits and that will be a liability in the bigs...)

So my Berky Catton and Konsta Helenius as little smaller than all the defenders, so I right now see a draft board at #4 where the hawks could have to choose from the group.

Granted it sees very much of a lock that Sam Richardinson, Artyom Levshunov are guaranteed, safe, close to locks on eventual filling an NHL roster for a few years.

But you have to wonder while that hawks at the mike if they are looking to shoot for the fences.
It would be ballsy that early.

They did so late when the chose Sam Rinzel over (my choice), centre-forward little Jiri Kulich, who is up tp 188 lbs. and almost 6' 1"

It just seems like there is a bit more pressure on Davidson and staff, since this year's team incurred so may subtractions by way of injury and Perry actions, I do not think they expected to be second from last and I am gonna say they even expected more "click" with Bedsy and all the forwards than they have in the season results.
I think there may be pressure if this pick has forwards off the board and Kyle having to decide "safe" or impact defenseman if it comes down to that.

Will the their draft list be finalized with risk or safe on the backline?
wiz1901
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: DraftSite com, IL
Joined: 05.14.2008

Apr 11 @ 2:04 PM ET
They were looking for someone who was adept with social media first. Hockey knowledge was second at best. If they had hockey as the priority Wideman should be doing tv.
- 6628



Well Vosters must not be riding my tests on X about he being to ONLY play by play guy that I have heard throughout my life who cannot pronounce the quick one-wordess of the hockey term blue line.
He actually said it the way everyone else in the world says it has night once.

It is not kin to "malign"...with emphasis on line, just pronounced thruway, or green line like it is one long quick 2 syllables.

I never have hear ANY person say a quick blu and a long emphasized "line."

I think the kid is a nice human, but he tends to hear anger and then affirm Panger's view unnecessarily.

I can't say their is any junior or minor pro play by play that should replace him, but so many seem so much more talking hockey play experience and I don't see him with any leap and bond improvement so far.
Old experience guys have see so many situations and have described them in context to those actually game times and Chris doesn't have that yet.

totem
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Seattle, WA
Joined: 06.14.2017

Apr 11 @ 2:18 PM ET
Assuming ARI goes to Salt Lake City (West - Central)

#33 - ARI (Part of the deal with present ARI is having them get the next expansion team, assuming their new arena gets built. (West - Pacific)
#34 - Atlanta (East - Metro)
#35 - Houston (West - Central)
#36 - Need an Eastern team - Hamilton or Quebec (East - Atlantic)

- boilermaker100


Hamilton aka the South Ontario Blackberries (SOBs) - wonder if Balsillie still has the cash lying around for an NHL team

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jim_Balsillie
DarthKane
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: 5.13.4.9
Joined: 02.23.2012

Apr 11 @ 2:23 PM ET
Zaitsev will not be in the NHL after this year. Tinordi might get a job for Tortorella or some other hardo coach, but it shouldn’t be here. Megna and Murphy are about as replacement level as replacement level gets, except one somehow has an A and another year on his contract.

Here’s to hoping that some of del Mastro, Allan, or Kaiser stick full time next year.

- ObeseOprah


He might be, if Zaitsev is in the league he'll be making far less than he is now. But I think the KHL is his most likely destination.
Chunk
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Why did I move back here again?, IL
Joined: 11.06.2015

Apr 11 @ 2:26 PM ET
He might be, if Zaitsev is in the league he'll be making far less than he is now. But I think the KHL is his most likely destination.
- DarthKane


In the Hawks player poll, Zaitsev was voted most likely to completely disappear after hockey. No joke.
bjphawkfan
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Woodridge, IL
Joined: 07.02.2016

Apr 11 @ 2:27 PM ET
I think Trump should buy a team and call them the Witch Hunters. {Humor, not politics}
bjphawkfan
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Woodridge, IL
Joined: 07.02.2016

Apr 11 @ 2:27 PM ET
Please don't give Atlanta another shot.
rpeters01
Season Ticket Holder
Joined: 07.09.2016

Apr 11 @ 2:44 PM ET
I think Trump should buy a team and call them the Witch Hunters. {Humor, not politics}
- bjphawkfan

I think Musk should buy the league.
fattybeef
Joined: 05.04.2010

Apr 11 @ 3:15 PM ET
I enjoyed the Athletic piece on Carter Yakemchuk today.

He currently has 30 goals, 71 points, 120 pims. 38th best in the dub overall...

Zayne Parekh's current 33 goal-96 points in 66 games pace with 64 pims, 8th best in the OHL overall.

This 2024 super defenseman class has my head spinning on how each and every guy from Artyom Levshunov, to Sam Richardinson, to Anton Silayev to Denvers Zeev Biulum will eventually slot in on NHL rosters, thus determining their possible final selection spots.

Do you think the Hawks feel they have solved the future first pair? Or even their SECOND?

I see the boards whipping guy, Jones as their best all around specimen, Valic asa solid contributor inside the top two pairings somewhere, and the boards other whipping boy Korchinski is a effortless skater, with terrific feet, and a good eye with his passing has upside all around

I don't watch many entire Rockford games but I watched 3 recently and feel that both Allen and especially Del Mastro isn't close to AHL prime time. That Phillips imo, is close to his high water mark as a pro, and that Crevier hasn't reached hi high water mark. (I will like seeing Del Mastro in the bigs to see if he shores up on his puck possessions and reactions! I am a still fan!)

But I don't think that defensive corps is set.
The developing depth with Kaiser, Crevier and the rest and the current young guys getting chance now at very least gives the Blackhawks plenty of depth to fill the bottom three defense slots (and another in the press box), so that is the good thing as other teams do not have his luxury of numbers.

I think they still have their eyes of a guy who can add offensive and not in a pass, or "all-around roundness."

I am going to say Kyle's staff has gotta feel that they only potentially have added 4 young candidates to help in the possible top 6, and they HAVE TO be leaning towards adding EARLY in the first THERE, but what happens if that draft FOURTH?

My board has FOUR forwards gone, and maybe a stretch. Demidov isn't in that mix (EVERY f-ng video displays him legs in the splits and that will be a liability in the bigs...)

So my Berky Catton and Konsta Helenius as little smaller than all the defenders, so I right now see a draft board at #4 where the hawks could have to choose from the group.

Granted it sees very much of a lock that Sam Richardinson, Artyom Levshunov are guaranteed, safe, close to locks on eventual filling an NHL roster for a few years.

But you have to wonder while that hawks at the mike if they are looking to shoot for the fences.
It would be ballsy that early.

They did so late when the chose Sam Rinzel over (my choice), centre-forward

- wiz1901little Jiri Kulich, who is up tp 188 lbs. and almost 6' 1"

It just seems like there is a bit more pressure on Davidson and staff, since this year's team incurred so may subtractions by way of injury and Perry actions, I do not think they expected to be second from last and I am gonna say they even expected more "click" with Bedsy and all the forwards than they have in the season results.
I think there may be pressure if this pick has forwards off the board and Kyle having to decide "safe" or impact defenseman if it comes down to that.

Will the their draft list be finalized with risk or safe on the backline?


I still think you take best available. Which is completely arbitrary because it's all perspective.

Outside of Celebrini, the RHD "unicorn" types : Levshunov and Yakemchuk are really interesting. For an 18 year old to already be at or over 200 lbs and with excellent skating ability on the right side is pretty tough to pass up. BUT with the size they've drafted on the blue line going with someone like Parekh isn't overly concerning.

And I don't think you skip on Parekh because you have Korchinski. Or Yakemchuk for that matter. That 2010 team had both Keith and Campbell which caused all manner of match up problems for other teams and all the third pairing guys had to do was kill penalties.

Otherwise this would be a nice year for them to move into the top ten but other than swapping picks this year and kicking in a first from next year - they don't have a lot of NHL talent to offer a team like Seattle or Ottawa other than Jones. Maybe 3 years of Jeff Skinner can get them Buffalo's pick and if Eiserman falls that would be neat or they can take Catton like you have in the mock? Not like they need to throw more darts at this point with how hard everyone is over their prospect pool.
BluesDroogie
St Louis Blues
Location: St. Louis, MO
Joined: 06.12.2014

Apr 11 @ 3:33 PM ET
So, right where you are today, eh?
- mohel

Not at all eh, i sleep in these dirty city streets eh, buddy, Eh. Ha ha ha
LFS
Chicago Blackhawks
Joined: 02.08.2021

Apr 11 @ 3:34 PM ET
Well Vosters must not be riding my tests on X about he being to ONLY play by play guy that I have heard throughout my life who cannot pronounce the quick one-wordess of the hockey term blue line.
He actually said it the way everyone else in the world says it has night once.

It is not kin to "malign"...with emphasis on line, just pronounced thruway, or green line like it is one long quick 2 syllables.

I never have hear ANY person say a quick blu and a long emphasized "line."

I think the kid is a nice human, but he tends to hear anger and then affirm Panger's view unnecessarily.

I can't say their is any junior or minor pro play by play that should replace him, but so many seem so much more talking hockey play experience and I don't see him with any leap and bond improvement so far.
Old experience guys have see so many situations and have described them in context to those actually game times and Chris doesn't have that yet.

- wiz1901

Sorry, but your grammar and spelling makes it very difficult to follow what you are trying to say. Maybe a little forethought before writing.
LFS
Chicago Blackhawks
Joined: 02.08.2021

Apr 11 @ 3:34 PM ET
Well Vosters must not be riding my tests on X about he being to ONLY play by play guy that I have heard throughout my life who cannot pronounce the quick one-wordess of the hockey term blue line.
He actually said it the way everyone else in the world says it has night once.

It is not kin to "malign"...with emphasis on line, just pronounced thruway, or green line like it is one long quick 2 syllables.

I never have hear ANY person say a quick blu and a long emphasized "line."

I think the kid is a nice human, but he tends to hear anger and then affirm Panger's view unnecessarily.

I can't say their is any junior or minor pro play by play that should replace him, but so many seem so much more talking hockey play experience and I don't see him with any leap and bond improvement so far.
Old experience guys have see so many situations and have described them in context to those actually game times and Chris doesn't have that yet.

- wiz1901

Sorry, but your grammar and spelling makes it very difficult to follow what you are trying to say. Maybe a little forethought before writing.
paulr
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: YYZ
Joined: 06.26.2011

Apr 11 @ 3:35 PM ET
I still think you take best available. Which is completely arbitrary because it's all perspective.

Outside of Celebrini, the RHD "unicorn" types : Levshunov and Yakemchuk are really interesting. For an 18 year old to already be at or over 200 lbs and with excellent skating ability on the right side is pretty tough to pass up. BUT with the size they've drafted on the blue line going with someone like Parekh isn't overly concerning.

And I don't think you skip on Parekh because you have Korchinski. Or Yakemchuk for that matter. That 2010 team had both Keith and Campbell which caused all manner of match up problems for other teams and all the third pairing guys had to do was kill penalties.

Otherwise this would be a nice year for them to move into the top ten but other than swapping picks this year and kicking in a first from next year - they don't have a lot of NHL talent to offer a team like Seattle or Ottawa other than Jones. Maybe 3 years of Jeff Skinner can get them Buffalo's pick and if Eiserman falls that would be neat or they can take Catton like you have in the mock? Not like they need to throw more darts at this point with how hard everyone is over their prospect pool.

- fattybeef


Always draft best available. But best available isn’t necessarily the same for all teams. For all we know some team(s) could have Celebrini ranked at two or three? It wouldn’t surprise me if a Verbeek or Yzerman have their rankings very different from other more traditional GMs.

As for drafting similar type players. If Chicago draft Parekh and it happens to make Korchinski expendable, you trade Korchinski. If they draft D!ckinson and it makes Vlasic expendable, you trade Vlasic. Or you work with two similar type players. Not to sound cold, but at the end of the day players are commodities and are kept or moved to make the team better.
Angotti
Season Ticket Holder
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: IL
Joined: 07.03.2019

Apr 11 @ 3:36 PM ET
They need to draft BPA, and hopefully that’s a forward, however if they take a Dman early, I hope it’s Levshunov. I’m not big on offensive defensemen, as those type are usually not adequate defensively, and if one is, it’s usually a rarity. That’s just my opinion, but I’ve been wrong before, just ask my wife.
Edit- BPA according to the Hawks scouting reports.
LFS
Chicago Blackhawks
Joined: 02.08.2021

Apr 11 @ 3:36 PM ET
I think Trump should buy a team and call them the Witch Hunters. {Humor, not politics}
- bjphawkfan

Well it wasnt funny so it must be something else.
wiz1901
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: DraftSite com, IL
Joined: 05.14.2008

Apr 11 @ 3:48 PM ET
Sorry, but your grammar and spelling makes it very difficult to follow what you are trying to say. Maybe a little forethought before writing.
- LFS


I fixed three errors, trixie.
Well Vosters must not be riding my texts on X about he being to ONLY play by play guy that I have heard throughout my life who cannot pronounce the quick one-wordess of the hockey term blue line.
He actually said it the way everyone else in the world says it has night once.

It is not kin to "malign"...with emphasis on line, just pronounced thruway, or green line like it is one long quick 2 syllables.

I never have hear ANY person say a quick blu and a long emphasized "line."

I think the kid is a nice human, but he tends to hear Panger and then affirm Panger's view unnecessarily.

I can't say there is any junior or minor pro play by play that should replace him, but so many seem so much more talking hockey play experience and I don't see him with any leap and bond improvement so far.
Old experience guys have see so many situations and have described them in context to those actually game times and Chris doesn't have that yet.

- wiz1901





Maybe a little forethought before writing.
- LFS


My mind never slows for a forethought; they are quickly past, and on to the next forethought. Just like my two finger typing...

You got the main part right?


THAT CHRIS VOSTERS SAYS " BLUE ------LINE like I haver never heard it in the last 74 years.
Mr Ricochet
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Joliet, IL
Joined: 04.19.2009

Apr 11 @ 3:48 PM ET
I enjoyed the Athletic piece on Carter Yakemchuk today.

He currently has 30 goals, 71 points, 120 pims. 38th best in the dub overall...

Zayne Parekh's current 33 goal-96 points in 66 games pace with 64 pims, 8th best in the OHL overall.

This 2024 super defenseman class has my head spinning on how each and every guy from Artyom Levshunov, to Sam Richardinson, to Anton Silayev to Denvers Zeev Biulum will eventually slot in on NHL rosters, thus determining their possible final selection spots.

Do you think the Hawks feel they have solved the future first pair? Or even their SECOND?



- wiz1901


After seeing a good bit of Buium this yr, the WJC, as a true freshman at U of Denver and the NCAA tournament I have him in the grouping of the top Dmen. Elite IQ and skating has this kid simply making play after play in all 3 zones and controlling play. .. IMO he belongs with the best of this Dman class.

Catton has moved up my list too. I see this kid as a difference maker in an NHL top 6. ........ But it's much too high to take these kids with the Hawks first 1st rd pick.

Whether the Hawks are drafting 2nd, 3rd or 4th I'm in the best player available camp.


wiz1901
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: DraftSite com, IL
Joined: 05.14.2008

Apr 11 @ 3:56 PM ET
After seeing a good bit of Buium this yr, the WJC, as a true freshman at U of Denver and the NCAA tournament I have him in the grouping of the top Dmen. Elite IQ and skating has this kid simply making play after play in all 3 zones and controlling play. .. IMO he belongs with the best of this Dman class.

Catton has moved up my list too. I see this kid as a difference maker in an NHL top 6. ........ But it's much too high to take these kids with the Hawks first 1st rd pick.

Whether the Hawks are drafting 2nd, 3rd or 4th I'm in the best player available camp.

- Mr Ricochet


I have no beefs on the upward surge in Zeev Buium trajectory. just that his average size and his offensive prowess is under a Zayne Parekh.

Sorry I used no forethought in my answer, lol
boilermaker100
Chicago Blackhawks
Joined: 06.23.2015

Apr 11 @ 4:01 PM ET
After seeing a good bit of Buium this yr, the WJC, as a true freshman at U of Denver and the NCAA tournament I have him in the grouping of the top Dmen. Elite IQ and skating has this kid simply making play after play in all 3 zones and controlling play. .. IMO he belongs with the best of this Dman class.

Catton has moved up my list too. I see this kid as a difference maker in an NHL top 6. ........ But it's much too high to take these kids with the Hawks first 1st rd pick.

Whether the Hawks are drafting 2nd, 3rd or 4th I'm in the best player available camp.

- Mr Ricochet


Here's a scouting report of 2024 prospects off of capfriendly.

https://www.capfriendly.com/scouting-reports

If you look at the "overall " column, there are 10 projected 1st pair or 1st line draftees. Lots to choose from. Like Paul said I'd trade KK + to get another top 10 if the player available projects better.
Chunk
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Why did I move back here again?, IL
Joined: 11.06.2015

Apr 11 @ 4:08 PM ET
Lardis and Ludwinski added to Rockford roster. I might have to find a way to see a game or two if they get into game action. Maybe with Guttman going down for 3-4 weeks, they will.
paulr
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: YYZ
Joined: 06.26.2011

Apr 11 @ 4:11 PM ET
Here's a scouting report of 2024 prospects off of capfriendly.

https://www.capfriendly.com/scouting-reports

If you look at the "overall " column, there are 10 projected 1st pair or 1st line draftees. Lots to choose from. Like Paul said I'd trade KK + to get another top 10 if the player available projects better.

- boilermaker100

In this scenario the Hawks win the draft lottery. If The Sharks were to offer their top two first round picks 2 or 3 and 11 to 13 for Celebrini, do you do it? Potentially the Hawks could draft three pretty good player plus someone who might fall out of the first round.
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