Assman22
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Location: San Francisco, CA Joined: 04.13.2012
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What is the password? - DarthKane
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paulr
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Location: YYZ Joined: 06.26.2011
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What is the password? - DarthKane
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Assman22
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Location: San Francisco, CA Joined: 04.13.2012
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Marchessault 20 million over 2 years. Toffoli 7 million for one year. Tanev 6 million for one year. One of Debrusk or TT for long-term but a reasonable yearly average. I like Debrusk because I think he's one of those hard working hard on the boards guys that Chicago fans love even if they've underachieved offensively.
Now you have one top 6 spot that Nazar, Reichel and Kurashev are fighting over - get that competition everyone talks about. An insurance policy for Murphy and upgrade from Tinordi and Megna.
If hall plays 60 games you figure him + those adds give the Hawks around a net +50 GF conservatively or maybe 75 if were being optimistic scoring wise and if they can improve enough defensively to reduce the goals coming in by around 30 then theyre in a similar spot gf\ga as a Philly or Washington which should about put them in that range of +80 points.
Doesn't do anything to impact anything long term. - fattybeef
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DarthKane
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Location: 5.13.4.9 Joined: 02.23.2012
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Chunk
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Location: Why did I move back here again?, IL Joined: 11.06.2015
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Sounds like a good plan to me; that team would probably have a good shot at 85 points.
The downside is the lower draft placement next year. The concern is to not become Detroit; a team with some very good players but not enough stars. Stars sometimes come from lower in round one and in later rounds, but most often they come from near the top of round one. And it is my opinion that they don't have enough star level prospects. - mohel
Last two drafts: #1, 19, 7, 13, 25, not to mention five 2nd rounders
They have at worst #4 and whatever the Bolts end up this year. and again 3 more 2nd rounders.
That's 15 1st and 2nd round picks in the last three years. If you haven't built enough talent into your prospect pool with that, then maybe you don't know what the eff you are doing (and by "you" I mean KD). Put some more decent talent around the kids so that they understand how to win. They can certainly do that without screwing up their future cap with trades and FA.
BUF, and EDM both had numerous #1 and #2 OA picks and it didn't help them until they started bringing in guys to fill in around the stars. Buffalo is still trying to figure it out. |
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Chunk
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Location: Why did I move back here again?, IL Joined: 11.06.2015
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What is the password? - DarthKane
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12345 - Chunk
Something an idiot would have on his luggage |
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Reinhart? - Assman22
Nah he's too young and would be looking for term. |
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Chunk
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Location: Why did I move back here again?, IL Joined: 11.06.2015
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Nah he's too young and would be looking for term. - fattybeef
And with the year he had, could command it. The Hawks don't need to go out and try to sign the Draisaitl's of the world. Just don't settle for Beauvillier. |
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LAHawk
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Joined: 11.02.2017
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Nah he's too young and would be looking for term. - fattybeef
in the tradition of Foligno/Perry, Pat Maroon and Pierre Eduord Bellamare.
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Sounds like a good plan to me; that team would probably have a good shot at 85 points.
The downside is the lower draft placement next year. The concern is to not become Detroit; a team with some very good players but not enough stars. Stars sometimes come from lower in round one and in later rounds, but most often they come from near the top of round one. And it is my opinion that they don't have enough star level prospects. - mohel
Or languish in mediocraty like Ottawa or Buffalo.
The should have enough after this year and will need to buy someone else at some point.
One of Nazar, Moore, Reichel, other, someone they draft this year is going to have to turn into a 70 point player in the next 2 or 3 years.
There's plenty of talent on the blue line in the pipeline.
Younger versions of players like Mark Stone, Zibanejad, Eichel, Panarin, Reinhart, TheChuck, O'Rielly, JT Miller are going to be available via trade or free agency in the next few years.
They have their guy in Bedard and I'm of the belief that you build around him asap rather than continue to throw darts. |
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DarthKane
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Location: 5.13.4.9 Joined: 02.23.2012
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Vancouver signed Podkolzin to a 2 year, $1 million cap hit deal today. I wonder if that's the type of deal we can expect for Reichel. |
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bjphawkfan
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Location: Woodridge, IL Joined: 07.02.2016
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Could he get familia and sign Vlasic's cousin? LOL |
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DarthKane
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Location: 5.13.4.9 Joined: 02.23.2012
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Could he get familia and sign Vlasic's cousin? LOL - bjphawkfan
M.E. Vlasic has 2 years after this season with a $7 million cap hit. If SJ wants to thrown in their own 2024 first round pick (unprotected) I'm ok with taking on the contract. |
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Location: Edmonton, AB Joined: 11.30.2015
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Marchessault 20 million over 2 years. Toffoli 7 million for one year. Tanev 6 million for one year. One of Debrusk or TT for long-term but a reasonable yearly average. I like Debrusk because I think he's one of those hard working hard on the boards guys that Chicago fans love even if they've underachieved offensively.
Now you have one top 6 spot that Nazar, Reichel and Kurashev are fighting over - get that competition everyone talks about. An insurance policy for Murphy and upgrade from Tinordi and Megna.
If hall plays 60 games you figure him + those adds give the Hawks around a net +50 GF conservatively or maybe 75 if were being optimistic scoring wise and if they can improve enough defensively to reduce the goals coming in by around 30 then theyre in a similar spot gf\ga as a Philly or Washington which should about put them in that range of +80 points.
Doesn't do anything to impact anything long term. - fattybeef
Doesn't help the team at all long term either. Why spend to the cap to be mediocre during a rebuild. Pretty much pointless. |
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paulr
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Location: YYZ Joined: 06.26.2011
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What playoff or contending teams are at the cap, have a useful veteran who has a large contract, preferably with little term, and younger RFA or UFA’s that need to be signed? I bet KFC will be looking long and hard in that direction. |
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Chunk
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Location: Why did I move back here again?, IL Joined: 11.06.2015
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Vancouver signed Podkolzin to a 2 year, $1 million cap hit deal today. I wonder if that's the type of deal we can expect for Reichel. - DarthKane
Yes, yes it is. |
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Doesn't help the team at all long term either. Why spend to the cap to be mediocre during a rebuild. Pretty much pointless. - breadbag
Of course it helps. It strengthens the roster so they are in the playoff discussion and playing games that at least mathematically matter if not realistically which is more important for the younger players on the roster now then being trash again and having zero of the games matter in any sense. |
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Chunk
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Location: Why did I move back here again?, IL Joined: 11.06.2015
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Doesn't help the team at all long term either. Why spend to the cap to be mediocre during a rebuild. Pretty much pointless. - breadbag
They don't have to spend all the way to the cap, but to answer your question, they already have two back to back top 5 picks to go along with poop tons of other high draft picks.
It's not pointless at all. You can't just keep waiting around for the kids to make the team good. First you don't know how many, or which ones will be the main contributors. Second, you don't just go from historically bad (and getting top 5 picks) to playoff/SC contender. You have two more years before you have to pay Bedard. Ideally, KK and Nazar prove to be the goods who you'd have to pay as well. Then you throw in whoever you take with the first pick this year. If you wait for all those guys to get good and have to pay them, but you still suck, what have you accomplished? |
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mohel
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Location: IL Joined: 02.08.2013
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Last two drafts: #1, 19, 7, 13, 25, not to mention five 2nd rounders
They have at worst #4 and whatever the Bolts end up this year. and again 3 more 2nd rounders.
That's 15 1st and 2nd round picks in the last three years. If you haven't built enough talent into your prospect pool with that, then maybe you don't know what the eff you are doing (and by "you" I mean KD). Put some more decent talent around the kids so that they understand how to win. They can certainly do that without screwing up their future cap with trades and FA.
BUF, and EDM both had numerous #1 and #2 OA picks and it didn't help them until they started bringing in guys to fill in around the stars. Buffalo is still trying to figure it out. - Chunk
Which of these guys looks to have NHL star potential? The top forward prospect not named Bedard I'd a projected middle six guy. Which defenseman looks like a no doubt high end #1 on a contender?
Or, are we gonna skip that part? Maybe just pick up a Hedman or Makar type in their prime from the local Wal-Mart? |
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mohel
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Location: IL Joined: 02.08.2013
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Doesn't help the team at all long term either. Why spend to the cap to be mediocre during a rebuild. Pretty much pointless. - breadbag
Because some fans have grown tired of the process already. |
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rpeters01
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Last two drafts: #1, 19, 7, 13, 25, not to mention five 2nd rounders
They have at worst #4 and whatever the Bolts end up this year. and again 3 more 2nd rounders.
That's 15 1st and 2nd round picks in the last three years. If you haven't built enough talent into your prospect pool with that, then maybe you don't know what the eff you are doing (and by "you" I mean KD). Put some more decent talent around the kids so that they understand how to win. They can certainly do that without screwing up their future cap with trades and FA.
BUF, and EDM both had numerous #1 and #2 OA picks and it didn't help them until they started bringing in guys to fill in around the stars. Buffalo is still trying to figure it out. - Chunk
It's far from an exact science projecting high school players to major league pros.
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Chunk
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Location: Why did I move back here again?, IL Joined: 11.06.2015
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Which of these guys looks to have NHL star potential? The top forward prospect not named Bedard I'd a projected middle six guy. Which defenseman looks like a no doubt high end #1 on a contender?
Or, are we gonna skip that part? Maybe just pick up a Hedman or Makar type in their prime from the local Wal-Mart? - mohel
I would say that is precisely why you don't wait around for all of these kids to mature. They can sign or trade for guys on 2-3 year deals max and get them used to being competitive. Then when the plethora of prospects are ready for the big time to show their stuff they can step in.
No one is going to be able to tell you who will be an NHL star. the first overall pick in the draft isn't even guaranteed.
Are Dahlin and Power stars, or just really good players? RNH? Nolan Patrick or Nico Hischier? Taylor Hall? Lafreniere? Slafkovsky?
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Chunk
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Location: Why did I move back here again?, IL Joined: 11.06.2015
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It's far from an exact science projecting high school players to major league pros. - rpeters01
Exactly why it is foolish to wait for all of them to prove themselves in the NHL. |
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