Without a doubt. Back then you had to stomach the BS being handed to you by the organization from Pulford and Dollar Bill - when you knew they truly didn’t care about winning - just being competitive enough to be profitable.
- Chief4Feathers

Was easier then, with only the 5 teams missing the playoffs - all you had to do in the Norris is not finish last, and you got some extra gates (and a good run even after an awful regular season -that went a long way... happened more than once).

Agreed though - they had a definitely formulaic approach to things - the expansion and keeping the playoff teams at the same levels, ultimately, screwed the formula up.

Be interesting to see if some old posters start visiting now that the team is turning around! Ogi, Beaver, Elbows (more often), QAAAARRRRRRRGGGGGG, amongst others. Wonder if we’ll see if Edzo from Colorado with the Blackhawk tatt and who cries and takes his ball home when anyone disagrees with him
- paulr

Turning around? Foligno is correct. KD needs to get some real NHL players this off-season. Expecting the kids to develop playing with the likes of Anderson, Blackwell, and all the rest of that ilk is cray-cray.

Do i expect a big splash? No. There are some interesting names available this summer that would certainly help. Cripes, at the very least allow them to spend more time in the O-zone and not have to defend for 75% of the game.

Also. Trade Korbustski with TB's 1st and go get Buium.

I think as long as Tinordi can simply use his strength to detain attackers on the wall, and he can punch, he has a job, at the 7th 8th who knows.



- wiz1901

Yep. Tinordi knows the system, coaches, players and he seems to be bought into what the organIzation is trying to do. .... To my eye he's a legi7th/8th NHL Dman that checks a few boxes fir the club. Slot him properly and he useful.

Interesting g that you included Luypen among probably the abbreviated list of prospects. I tried to watch him live in a couple games. He played on bottom two lines, essentially as a.checker. He appeared to skate average and willing to.play physical. Also seems to have some ability BUT hard to gage based on limited. New and his role without top offensive dive linemattes
- jhawk59

Just as an example of guys who have been drafted by the previous regime and signed to a contract. It's not like Kyle had a bad group of prospects coming into it.

Stan and co did a fairly decent jobs finding value in the later rounds. The firsts have been a mixed bag and then obviously the Boqvist and Dach picks were not great and kinda killed a second run with Kane and all.

If next year the top two pairs are Jones-Vlasic and Murphy-Korchinski, who do you see on the third pair next year? Kaiser and ???? I saw Crevier is the only RD in Rockford. And who is the 7D? Maybe they add a free agent or acquire another salary cap casualty? Can't imagine they bring back any of Tinordi, Zaitsev, or Megna.
- 333inthe3rd

Overpaying for Tanev has been the option thrown out. More for Murphy insurance than anything else.

Turning around? Foligno is correct. KD needs to get some real NHL players this off-season. Expecting the kids to develop playing with the likes of Anderson, Blackwell, and all the rest of that ilk is cray-cray.

Do i expect a big splash? No. There are some interesting names available this summer that would certainly help. Cripes, at the very least allow them to spend more time in the O-zone and not have to defend for 75% of the game.

Also. Trade Korbustski with TB's 1st and go get Buium.


- Elbows15

Agree need more established nhl players not 4th line ahl players. Scoring depth back goalie and actually veteran defenceman not journey nhl d man. Elbows any names come to mind? Imo Davidson and company will use some of that draft capital and other assets to aquire a young established player that is Block or the team can resign him.

Turning around? Foligno is correct. KD needs to get some real NHL players this off-season. Expecting the kids to develop playing with the likes of Anderson, Blackwell, and all the rest of that ilk is cray-cray.

Do i expect a big splash? No. There are some interesting names available this summer that would certainly help. Cripes, at the very least allow them to spend more time in the O-zone and not have to defend for 75% of the game.

Also. Trade Korbustski with TB's 1st and go get Buium.


- Elbows15

Why would any team want Korbustsky?

Why would any team want Korbustsky?
- paulr

they won't.

but then KD wanted him so who knows. jack johnson still has a job so GMs ain't exactly perfect.

Agree need more established nhl players not 4th line ahl players. Scoring depth back goalie and actually veteran defenceman not journey nhl d man. Elbows any names come to mind? Imo Davidson and company will use some of that draft capital and other assets to aquire a young established player that is Block or the team can resign him.
- Scott1977

marchessault, stephenson or Necas would be guys I would go after hard on short term bloated deals. Doubt any are realistic.

What I feel is more likely to happen is more like the Hall trade. Some older guy not living up to his contract or a team moving a guy to keep a more preferable player.

Rockford Icehogs won their game tonight with Ludwinski in the lineup however Lardis has not been in a game yet - but two games remain in regular season

Dach had a goal and assist; he was named first star⁵

marchessault, stephenson or Necas would be guys I would go after hard on short term bloated deals. Doubt any are realistic.

What I feel is more likely to happen is more like the Hall trade. Some older guy not living up to his contract or a team moving a guy to keep a more preferable player.
- Elbows15

If one of these types have difficulty finding a fit they may be willing to take a contract with Chicago? Ideally a decent functional veteran or two who have top six ability would help the rookies and team take a step out of the cellar towards the middle of the pack.

marchessault, stephenson or Necas would be guys I would go after hard on short term bloated deals. Doubt any are realistic.

What I feel is more likely to happen is more like the Hall trade. Some older guy not living up to his contract or a team moving a guy to keep a more preferable player.
- Elbows15

To me Stephenson is the player I would love the Hawks to sign checks all the boxes and highly doubt Vegas will be able resign him but anything could happen. Necas is the perfect example of what pointed out young established player cannot be resigned by current team. Off-season will be interesting .

I just did a mock draft with the Hawks drafting 2nd and 19th. I selected Demidov 2nd and Yakemchuk.
- DarthKane

Yakemchuk will be long gone by #19...

Necas signing in a heartbeat.

Would you trade a top 2-4 pick to Seattle for C Shane Wright?

Just as an example of guys who have been drafted by the previous regime and signed to a contract. It's not like Kyle had a bad group of prospects coming into it.

Stan and co did a fairly decent jobs finding value in the later rounds. The firsts have been a mixed bag and then obviously the Boqvist and Dach picks were not great and kinda killed a second run with Kane and all.
- fattybeef

I have always felt we should have held on to dach.

Yakemchuk will be long gone by #19...

Necas signing in a heartbeat.

Would you trade a top 2-4 pick to Seattle for C Shane Wright?
- wiz1901

Answers;

We'll see, not sure about that
Agree totally, he is my top target if I'm GM
Hell NO, but a 2nd rounder sure


And I'll add, boy am i glad i was busy yesterday and wasn't on he board.........

I have always felt we should have held on to dach.
- LFS

I'd much rather have Nazar and Hayes

Answers;

We'll see, not sure about that
Agree totally, he is my top target if I'm GM
Hell NO, but a 2nd rounder sure


And I'll add, boy am i glad i was busy yesterday and wasn't on he board.........
- vabeachbear

Pansy....

I'd much rather have Nazar and Hayes
- vabeachbear

Same.

On Necas, he's listed as an RFA. If that's the case not sure what kind of package it would take to get him.

Would love to see him in a Hawk uni but CAR has been waiting for him to put it all together. I'd be surprised if they didn't find a way to resign him. Teravainen they might not be able to do anything about and likely one of the UFA dmen.

Yakemchuk will be long gone by #19...

Necas signing in a heartbeat.

Would you trade a top 2-4 pick to Seattle for C Shane Wright?
- wiz1901

Shane Wright for Chicago’s later first round pick, I would think Wright would be better than anyone available.

Pansy....
- mohel

Yes, possibly, but my typing fingers would have been cramping this morning from trying to fight off the "KD should've rebuilt like the Wings or Kings and we would've won a cup this year" crowd

Even though they both are about 5 years deeper in their rebuild

Same.

On Necas, he's listed as an RFA. If that's the case not sure what kind of package it would take to get him.

Would love to see him in a Hawk uni but CAR has been waiting for him to put it all together. I'd be surprised if they didn't find a way to resign him. Teravainen they might not be able to do anything about and likely one of the UFA dmen.
- HawkintheD

Not sure why we think Necas is available. Carolina apparently has $27M available with 16 player signed. I'd think they have room to pay him.

Not sure why we think Necas is available. Carolina apparently has $27M available with 16 player signed. I'd think they have room to pay him.
- mohel

They might have a tough choice or two with a couple UFA's. Think four of their top 6 dmen are UFA's but yeah I think they find money for Necas...especially since I think not having enough offense has been an issue for them come playoff time.

Sorry if you are tired discussing Boqvist
I am a fan of his primarily love his skill ser and wa t to see the acclaimed draft choi e make good fir ar least a couple seasons. I do suspect he will experience one too many concussions and that will force him to. Say his health and ability to still compete as reasons fir premature retirement

The last 1 - 2 months he received close to 20 TOI and I was curious if his game was better. Then with about a month remaining on the schedule he was felled again - concussion?
- jhawk59

Nothing wrong with being a fan of a player and hoping he can get his career back on track.

Even though Bowman had an obvious Seabrook replacement and a now Norris Trophy candidate staring him right in the face when he drafted Boqvist instead - Noah Dobson.

Shane Wright for Chicago’s later first round pick, I would think Wright would be better than anyone available.
- paulr

Would make that trade in a hearbeat - might even throw in a 2nd round pick in addition.

They might have a tough choice or two with a couple UFA's. Think four of their top 6 dmen are UFA's but yeah I think they find money for Necas...especially since I think not having enough offense has been an issue for them come playoff time.
- HawkintheD

Regardless of the specific player, there are lots of teams with UFAs and RFAs and who are up against the cap. It’s up to KD and his staff to identify them and possibly make a deal before they go to free agency, provided they get assurance thevsaid player will sign in Chicago. And there should be some useful free agents available on July first, provided of course this is part of the overall plan.