That's all reasonable... honestly. It also supports what I have been saying to you for years and years about the captain doesnt have to be a tough guy and team toughness can make that stigma moot. You are more or less presenting the argument I have countered with from day 1 when you non stop insisted the captain has to put his hands and head on the line when something happens to a team mate.

I know you love that pic that keeps getting posted. Garland is a fist magnet for a positive reason and I'm happy to see the new players like Joshua, Z, Soucy etc jump to his defense after something happens. One player you are not going to see do that is the current Captain. You saying "ya but" like you just did contradicts years of you arguing what the captain has to do and negatively judging people who more or less say what you just did about the man who wears the C. A fighting captain isn't a must. Hughes is doing an impressive job and all the while his gloves stay on. This team has had an infusion of big players who can happily take care of that role and this is the point I have been trying to get through to people since the Sedins retired(and while Henrik was the C).

People are so near sighted.

- boonerbuck

Completely agree. They overhauled the D to be bigger and meaner, couple tougher forwards. No one in the leadership group is really that guy, much like on any good team really. For every Lowry there’s Crosby, Stamkos, Hughes. Stone is gritty, but I’m not sure he has a NHL Fight and doesn’t really hit too much. It’s just kinda not a necessary thing

I'm going to snort some lines of calcium and see if that grows back the 4 teeth I lost.

- boonerbuck

City folk are funny and stupid 😆 they put you down for looking out/after yourself and continue to poison themselves 😆

I'm going to snort some lines of calcium and see if that grows back the 4 teeth I lost.

- boonerbuck

You’ve been chatting with those Oilers fans too much, their logic is rubbing off on you

You’ve been chatting with those Oilers fans too much, their logic is rubbing off on you
- neem55

No, they cut their calcium with meth, low grade coke, fentanyl and bath salts. I snort my calcium straight up.

Completely agree. They overhauled the D to be bigger and meaner, couple tougher forwards. No one in the leadership group is really that guy, much like on any good team really. For every Lowry there’s Crosby, Stamkos, Hughes. Stone is gritty, but I’m not sure he has a NHL Fight and doesn’t really hit too much. It’s just kinda not a necessary thing
- neem55

I'll give credit to Miller as being that guy in the core but let's be honest about last season's version of Miller. Why would he be considered a leader back then with what he was putting himself through? Luckily, RT really had an impact and management didnt give up on Miller. Now they have themselves one hell of a focused leader. Like I've been saying for years and years, often the best leaders on a team don't wear the C and Miller is arguably that guy. Not at all saying QH isn't captain material. On the contrary, he's one hell of a leader. Just a different kind of leader.

The problem a lot of people have with Bo is they expected a guy who was given the C for what kind of a payer he is to be a completely different person all of a sudden. That isnt reasonable at all, nor is it his fault. The team didnt have anyone else at the time even though they stalled on naming one for a year to see who emerged.

I'll give credit to Miller as being that guy in the core but let's be honest about last season's version of Miller. Why would he be considered a leader back then with what he was putting himself through? Luckily, RT really had an impact and management didnt give up on Miller. Now they have themselves one hell of a focused leader. Like I've been saying for years and years, often the best leaders on a team don't wear the C and Miller is arguably that guy. Not at all saying QH isn't captain material. On the contrary, he's one hell of a leader. Just a different kind of leader.

The problem a lot of people have with Bo is they expected a guy who was given the C for what kind of a payer he is... but they wanted him to be a completely different person all of a sudden. That isnt reasonable at all, nor is it his fault. The team didnt have anyone else at the time even though they stalled on naming one for a year to see who emerged.
- boonerbuck

In the case of the Red Deer redneck, it has nothing to do with how he was playing/leading, it has everything to do with political points of view. The Red Deer redneck turned on Bo, as soon as Bo made a comment the the Red Deer redneck didn't agree with, causing the Red Deer redneckto instantly argue against Bo and how he is soft and not a good leader.
The Red Deer redneck chooses his sports players and music based solely on his political beliefs, the Red Deer redneck is a complete (frank)en moron

In the case of the Red Deer redneck, it has nothing to do with how he was playing/leading, it has everything to do with political points of view. The Red Deer redneck turned on Bo, as soon as Bo made a comment the the Red Deer redneck didn't agree with, causing the Red Deer redneckto instantly argue against Bo and how he is soft and not a good leader.
The Red Deer redneck chooses his sports players and music based solely on his political beliefs, the Red Deer redneck is a complete (frank)en moron
- Reubenkincade

I agree on the points you are making about when and why he turned on BO. I have thought that all along. I can remember him turning on Bo over the "woke" and covid representation. But I always tried to get through to people that this is what a captain does... even if he's impartial to these issues, he is going to have to stand in front of mics and cameras and represent the organization's message. It's part of a long list of off ice stuff captains do. Live with it or don't.

The fact that "your captain has to fight and defend" narrative that he pounded to no end vanished the minute Bo was gone leaves little to hide behind.

With all that being said, I don't at all think Bo was an exceptional leader. I do think he wasnt as bad as some made it out to be though. I didnt expect him to completely be a different person all of a sudden. The leadership core needed to be built. Not all on one or two guys.

Edit: I had to re-edit the part you bolded. I butchered it.

In the case of the Red Deer redneck, it has nothing to do with how he was playing/leading, it has everything to do with political points of view. The Red Deer redneck turned on Bo, as soon as Bo made a comment the the Red Deer redneck didn't agree with, causing the Red Deer redneckto instantly argue against Bo and how he is soft and not a good leader.
The Red Deer redneck chooses his sports players and music based solely on his political beliefs, the Red Deer redneck is a complete (frank)en moron
- Reubenkincade

You certainly nailed that comment, the guy is a (frank)en moron alright, best post of the day.

I agree on the points you are making about when and why he turned on BO. I have thought that all along. I can remember him turning on Bo over the "woke" and covid representation. But I always tried to get through to people that this is what a captain does... even if he's impartial to these issues, he is going to have to stand in front of mics and cameras and represent the organization's message. It's part of a long list of off ice stuff captains do. Live with it or don't.

The fact that "your captain has to fight and defend" narrative that he pounded to no end vanished the minute Bo was gone leaves little to hide behind.

With all that being said, I don't at all think Bo was an exceptional leader. I do think he wasnt as bad as some made it out to be though. I didnt expect him to completely be a different person all of a sudden. The leadership core needed to be built. Not all on one or two guys.

Edit: I had to re-edit the part you bolded. I butchered it.
- boonerbuck

You certainly nailed that comment, the guy is a (frank)en moron alright, best post of the day.
- Sea21dog

Thank you

I don't like posting a somewhat political point, on a hockey forum, but sometimes things need to be pointed out.

Interesting?
D!ckheads.

- K-man25

Thx Turd!!!

In the case of the Red Deer redneck, it has nothing to do with how he was playing/leading, it has everything to do with political points of view. The Red Deer redneck turned on Bo, as soon as Bo made a comment the the Red Deer redneck didn't agree with, causing the Red Deer redneckto instantly argue against Bo and how he is soft and not a good leader.
The Red Deer redneck chooses his sports players and music based solely on his political beliefs, the Red Deer redneck is a complete (frank)en moron
- Reubenkincade

Geeez...some lil' guy is triggered...



Nothing to do with politics lol. Bo just ended up being super soft. Which was disappointing. Ain't hard to figure out dude.

Beauty goal.

Beauty goal.
- Reubenkincade

I wonder how things will pan out in Shannaplanastan?


If they embarrass themselves in the 1st round, I don't know how he keeps his job.

You certainly nailed that comment, the Seadog is a (frank)en moron alright, best post of the day.
- Sea21dog

I wonder how things will pan out in Shannaplanastan?


If they embarrass themselves in the 1st round, I don't know how he keeps his job.
- boonerbuck

it's 1-0 lol

From the leaf's thread already....

Of course the Bruins score on their first shot. So Leafy.

And so it begins...

How many games of this do we have to watch?

I wonder how things will pan out in Shannaplanastan?


If they embarrass themselves in the 1st round, I don't know how he keeps his job.
- boonerbuck

I would think it would be a complete house cleaning in Toronto

From the leaf's thread already....










- boonerbuck

it's 1-0 lol
- LordHumungous

That is their series win record over the last 20 years ironically.


I'm laughing because 3 shifts in they give up the odd man rush for a goal. Chill out.

Beta Bo loses key face-off in the final minutes, too soft , or maybe he's thinking of his next commercial with McDavid

Bruins are all over the Leafs, let’s hope that continues.

Bruins are all over the Leafs, let’s hope that continues.
- Pacificgem

One of your better posts.

That is their series win record over the last 20 years ironically.


I'm laughing because 3 shifts in they give up the odd man rush for a goal. Chill out.
- boonerbuck

Reeves went for the hit and took his dman out 😆

It will be interesting to see which way Reaves' influence goes in this series. Let's see if his enforcing tips the scales for the stars vs how many times he costs them with poop play and minor penalties... so far he cost them an odd man rush that ended up in the net only one period in.

I'm all for having players who intimidate and protect but they need to be able to play hockey or your GM and coach are idiot dinosaurs otherwise.