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Fakepartofme
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Living rent free... in your head, ON
Joined: 09.20.2010

May 8 @ 8:08 PM ET
I think some fans need to realize how valuable Mitch Marner is in a trade.
- Santo_44

Exactly
Ffs
Fakepartofme
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Living rent free... in your head, ON
Joined: 09.20.2010

May 8 @ 8:10 PM ET
Two thoughts.
1. AM was very good game 1 and awesome game 2 before getting sick then injured. Wonder what he would have looked like 7 games healthy away from MM?
2. Part of the problem with our playoff scoring might be the forwards have to be overcautious because of our below average D and questionable goaltending. Punctuated by next to no scoring from the backend. Edmundson, Boosh and Benoit helped our goalie but not our scoring so much. Lilly should provide some spark but he has Marneritis, Mccabe is OK offensively but likely average to below average. Reilly can move the puck and get assists but not so much scoring.

We need a PP QB, better 2 way D and some timely saves.

- jribout

Am was good one game...thats it. He has 2 -3 goals in his past 10 - 11 games.
Marner didn't make him worse, dont be foolish.
Fakepartofme
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Living rent free... in your head, ON
Joined: 09.20.2010

May 8 @ 8:11 PM ET
Saros, 22nd overall, Evangalista or Tomasino

Marner

Saros extension 8x7.5M

Marner 8x12M

- Santo_44

8 years for a goalie is bad.
Saros is meh, 3/4 years max
Also Toronto needs to get more than that.
Marner would sign for less due to taxes
Fakepartofme
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Living rent free... in your head, ON
Joined: 09.20.2010

May 8 @ 8:14 PM ET
Where would Marner agree to be traded?
- Aetherial

Vegas
Santo_44
Toronto Maple Leafs
Joined: 10.20.2014

May 8 @ 8:16 PM ET
Exactly
Ffs

- Fakepartofme


750K in actual dollars remaining on his contract after July 1st.

99 points last year and on pace for 101 this year.

Would probably sign on the spot if said team was willing to give him the dough...based on his past negotiations.

Will bring back a haul.
Santo_44
Toronto Maple Leafs
Joined: 10.20.2014

May 8 @ 8:16 PM ET
8 years for a goalie is bad.
Saros is meh, 3/4 years max
Also Toronto needs to get more than that.
Marner would sign for less due to taxes

- Fakepartofme


He has been one of the best goalies in the league the last 6-7 years
shack67
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: NS
Joined: 07.05.2015

May 8 @ 8:16 PM ET
Where would Marner agree to be traded?
- Aetherial

Probably nowhere.
Woderwick
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: David Clarkson's Water Bottle, ON
Joined: 02.12.2013

May 8 @ 8:17 PM ET
Speaking of taxes, did JT try to do his own taxes? Maybe using TurboTax or something?
shack67
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: NS
Joined: 07.05.2015

May 8 @ 8:19 PM ET
Swayman might take the Bruins right to the finals.
shack67
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: NS
Joined: 07.05.2015

May 8 @ 8:19 PM ET
Speaking of taxes, did JT try to do his own taxes? Maybe using TurboTax or something?
- Woderwick

Ha, I know right? I think he should fire his accountant.
mr.sir
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Vancouver Island, BC
Joined: 01.18.2015

May 8 @ 8:25 PM ET
Where would Marner agree to be traded?
- Aetherial

Hopefully Ottawa

BT 🥇
Canada Cup
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: This world is just a veil and the face you wear is not your own., ON
Joined: 07.06.2007

May 8 @ 8:26 PM ET
Speaking of taxes, did JT try to do his own taxes? Maybe using TurboTax or something?
- Woderwick

Him, Josh Donaldson, Russ Martin and one other Jay all got hit for the way they structured their Retirement Compensation Arrangements which is what they use to defer taxes on their big signing bonuses. If CRA really cracks down on them it could take away an advantage Canadian teams have in competing with low tax American states.
Arctic_AARDVARK
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Retired, ON
Joined: 07.24.2011

May 8 @ 8:39 PM ET
Back on the Canada..

(frank) I love this country.

At Arizona grill/lounge near Pearson.

So tired of eating resort buffet everyday.
shack67
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: NS
Joined: 07.05.2015

May 8 @ 8:46 PM ET
Back on the Canada..

(frank) I love this country.

At Arizona grill/lounge near Pearson.

So tired of eating resort buffet everyday.

- Arctic_AARDVARK

Yes, by the time you leave the Caribbean you pretty much have had it with the language, music and the food.
Fakepartofme
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Living rent free... in your head, ON
Joined: 09.20.2010

May 8 @ 8:47 PM ET
3-0 Toronto
Fakepartofme
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Living rent free... in your head, ON
Joined: 09.20.2010

May 8 @ 8:48 PM ET
Swayman might take the Bruins right to the finals.
- shack67

Another possible leafs goalie helping the bruins be successful.
Ugh
Fakepartofme
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Living rent free... in your head, ON
Joined: 09.20.2010

May 8 @ 8:52 PM ET
He has been one of the best goalies in the league the last 6-7 years
- Santo_44

Great.
Goalies change year to year, hard to read. Hes only played 3 seasons of 50 plus games.
4 year deal max.
lemieux_66
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: ON
Joined: 02.27.2012

May 8 @ 8:55 PM ET
Exactly
Ffs

- Fakepartofme


On a 1 year deal bringing him to UFA, unless he agrees to resign before getting traded his value depreciates a lot. Leafs media guys have been saying the same thing, they might not "win" a Marner trade but the win comes from the leafs getting some cap flexibility. Trade the guy for whatever best roster players you can get back, preferably a puck moving D man that can play the PP, and then use the rest of the cap space to sign a UFA forward (or more D).
lemieux_66
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: ON
Joined: 02.27.2012

May 8 @ 8:57 PM ET
Great.
Goalies change year to year, hard to read. Hes only played 3 seasons of 50 plus games.
4 year deal max.

- Fakepartofme


This I agree with. But I could see Saros wanting a huge contract in terms of AAV. If Bob gets 10m, why shouldn't Saros?
Fakepartofme
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Living rent free... in your head, ON
Joined: 09.20.2010

May 8 @ 8:57 PM ET
On a 1 year deal bringing him to UFA, unless he agrees to resign before getting traded his value depreciates a lot. Leafs media guys have been saying the same thing, they might not "win" a Marner trade but the win comes from the leafs getting some cap flexibility. Trade the guy for whatever best roster players you can get back, preferably a puck moving D man that can play the PP, and then use the rest of the cap space to sign a UFA forward (or more D).
- lemieux_66

Toronto media are usually full of poop most days.
Hes a 90 - 99pt player...any other team and they would be saying he'd get a boat load back
Fakepartofme
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Living rent free... in your head, ON
Joined: 09.20.2010

May 8 @ 8:59 PM ET
This I agree with. But I could see Saros wanting a huge contract in terms of AAV. If Bob gets 10m, why shouldn't Saros?
- lemieux_66

I could see him wanting term for sure.
Hes not getting 10m per, bob shouldn't have gotten that.
lemieux_66
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: ON
Joined: 02.27.2012

May 8 @ 9:00 PM ET
Toronto media are usually full of poop most days.
Hes a 90 - 99pt player...any other team and they would be saying he'd get a boat load back

- Fakepartofme


I'm just saying, its the part that he's a rental at this point that might really hurt his value, unless it's clear to the team trading him that he will sign with them. No one is going to give up 4 OA and their best prospect for a 1 year rental. That would destroy a team like Columbus that is already terrible.
Fakepartofme
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Living rent free... in your head, ON
Joined: 09.20.2010

May 8 @ 9:00 PM ET
Teoscar hernandez, already has 10 hrs.
Great job atkins.
Fakepartofme
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Living rent free... in your head, ON
Joined: 09.20.2010

May 8 @ 9:01 PM ET
I'm just saying, its the part that he's a rental at this point that might really hurt his value, unless it's clear to the team trading him that he will sign with them. No one is going to give up 4 OA and their best prospect for a 1 year rental. That would destroy a team like Columbus that is already terrible.
- lemieux_66

He will come with an extension
lemieux_66
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: ON
Joined: 02.27.2012

May 8 @ 9:03 PM ET
I could see him wanting term for sure.
Hes not getting 10m per, bob shouldn't have gotten that.

- Fakepartofme


Yeah, I feel like teams maybe have a bit more sense to hand out 10m for a goalie now after seeing how its worked out for Price and Bob. But I still think he'd get more than 7.5m on the open market. Maybe ~9m from the right team? I don't necessarily think it's the smart at all though.

A team like Nashville tends to play a style of play that makes things a bit easier on their goalies so why pay a premium for the goalie if you can just call up the next guy and get (hopefully) similar results?
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