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Bill Meltzer
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Mar 19 @ 10:46 AM ET
Bill Meltzer: Flyers Gameday: 3/19/24 vs. TOR
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Mar 19 @ 10:49 AM ET
Bill Meltzer: Flyers Gameday: 3/19/24 vs. TOR
- bmeltzer

https://nypost.com/2024/0...n-quinnpiacs-collin-graf/

Bill do the flyers have any known interest? any college free gents that you know of they are interested in?
Bill Meltzer
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Location: Philadelphia, PA
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Mar 19 @ 10:52 AM ET
https://nypost.com/2024/03/18/sports/rangers-eyeing-top-college-free-agent-in-quinnpiacs-collin-graf/

Bill do the flyers have any known interest? any college free gents that you know of they are interested in?

- hello it's me 2050


Believe there is interest in one/both of the Quinnipiac players. There's competition, however.
mickel25
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Morgantown, PA
Joined: 01.21.2011

Mar 19 @ 10:55 AM ET
The listed 4th line is a travesty. Why put Cates at center when he has played well on the wing for a long stretch? Why play ND or Atkinson at all at this point?
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Location: AR
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Mar 19 @ 10:57 AM ET
Believe there is interest in one/both of the Quinnipiac players. There's competition, however.
- bmeltzer

of course....not sure where the flyers are on players pecking order. Money is the same, so we shall see. if your a center flyers look attractive. though having torts as a coach maybe not so much.

Speaking of Quinnipiac , Flyer should have drafted sam lipkin over owen.
Flyers_01
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 10.03.2006

Mar 19 @ 11:01 AM ET
Couturier, Gurianov and Atkinson also took extra skating at the end of the morning skate, which is another strong indicator that all three will be scratched in the game.

Let the healthy scratching of the captain with 6 years remaining on his contract begin ..

I agree with previous posters that Torts ran him into the ground in the first half of the season.
PLindbergh31
Location: NJ
Joined: 02.01.2008

Mar 19 @ 11:02 AM ET
I guess it’s not really odd that the Flyers are making their captain a healthy scratch tonight.

The Oilers and Avalanche are doing the same thing.
flylerid
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Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Los Angeles, CA
Joined: 05.13.2023

Mar 19 @ 11:06 AM ET
Any word on getting injured players back on D?
PLindbergh31
Location: NJ
Joined: 02.01.2008

Mar 19 @ 11:10 AM ET
If someone said before the season that the following would happen this year would anyone sign on for it?

Collapse and miss the playoffs
Have a mid-first round pick
Couturier & Atkinson both look shot
Trade Gauthier for a marshmallow soft dman
Hart face a sexual assault trial

Business as usual in Flyer-Land
Trox88
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 08.12.2020

Mar 19 @ 11:24 AM ET
Cates back to center, sigh.
Feanor
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: DE
Joined: 02.13.2013

Mar 19 @ 11:35 AM ET
The listed 4th line is a travesty. Why put Cates at center when he has played well on the wing for a long stretch? Why play ND or Atkinson at all at this point?


So tiny Torts can feel like a big man by scratching the guy he just made captain last month.
BiggE
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: SELL THE DAMN TEAM!
Joined: 04.17.2012

Mar 19 @ 11:36 AM ET
Torts is a festering turd. Can’t wait til he’s gone though my fear is that President Doofus will get rid of Briere before the guy who is really running the organization.

Couts had missed nearly 2 full seasons and was coming off 2 serious back surgeries. So what does our brilliant HC do? He runs him out there for 20+ minutes per night right from the get go. No wonder he’s now out of gas, probably dinged up, and struggling. But here’s the thing, if you look at advanced stats, he is ALWAYS among the top 7-8 forwards each and every damn game! So scratching him is just Torts being a bunghole.

A smart coach, one with enough sense to know that on a rebuilding team, you play the long game, would have started the season with Couts playing a middle 6 role with his minutes carefully monitored. Furthermore, a smart coach would give him ample time off and would probably sit him occasionally in b2b situations.

Torts is self obsessed blowhard who loves playing mind games with his players. He is out of date and out of touch with today’s game. Does he get a lot out of his teams? Yeah, to some degree. But ask yourself this, what would better benefit the team in the long run:
Barely limping into the final playoff spot and getting bounced in round one, or just missing and either way drafting in the 13-17 spot
Or
Playing the long game, not just with Couts, but overall, and finishing with 70-75 points and picking in the 5-8 range with at least some chance of moving up to 1 or 2?

FU Torts
BINGO!
Carolina Hurricanes
Location: I'll always remember the last words my grandfather ever told me. He said, "A Truck!", SK
Joined: 09.21.2009

Mar 19 @ 11:48 AM ET
you guys were supposed to scratch and claw to maintain 3rd place in the Metro come on
MBFlyerfan
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Be nice from now on, NJ
Joined: 03.17.2006

Mar 19 @ 11:50 AM ET
So tiny Torts can feel like a big man by scratching the guy he just made captain last month.
- Feanor



Jones and Briere probably over-ruled him and Torts is being petty.
mr4tno
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: PA
Joined: 06.29.2017

Mar 19 @ 11:50 AM ET
If someone said before the season that the following would happen this year would anyone sign on for it?

Collapse and miss the playoffs
Have a mid-first round pick
Couturier & Atkinson both look shot
Trade Gauthier for a marshmallow soft dman
Hart face a sexual assault trial

Business as usual in Flyer-Land

- PLindbergh31

#3 for sure. i would not of even hesitated to put money down on that
hello it's me 2050
Location: AR
Joined: 05.14.2021

Mar 19 @ 11:51 AM ET
Torts is a festering turd. Can’t wait til he’s gone though my fear is that President Doofus will get rid of Briere before the guy who is really running the organization.

Couts had missed nearly 2 full seasons and was coming off 2 serious back surgeries. So what does our brilliant HC do? He runs him out there for 20+ minutes per night right from the get go. No wonder he’s now out of gas, probably dinged up, and struggling. But here’s the thing, if you look at advanced stats, he is ALWAYS among the top 7-8 forwards each and every damn game! So scratching him is just Torts being a bunghole.

A smart coach, one with enough sense to know that on a rebuilding team, you play the long game, would have started the season with Couts playing a middle 6 role with his minutes carefully monitored. Furthermore, a smart coach would give him ample time off and would probably sit him occasionally in b2b situations.

Torts is self obsessed blowhard who loves playing mind games with his players. He is out of date and out of touch with today’s game. Does he get a lot out of his teams? Yeah, to some degree. But ask yourself this, what would better benefit the team in the long run:
Barely limping into the final playoff spot and getting bounced in round one, or just missing and either way drafting in the 13-17 spot
Or
Playing the long game, not just with Couts, but overall, and finishing with 70-75 points and picking in the 5-8 range with at least some chance of moving up to 1 or 2?

FU Torts

- BiggE

said this the other day. then if your in the playoff picture maybe you increase his workload down the stretch.

this organization deserves pure failure. What will it take to sink in? nothing and until an ownership change (99% unlikley in the near future) very little will change.
ClaudeFather
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: west haven, CT
Joined: 08.14.2015

Mar 19 @ 11:52 AM ET
With the 15th overtime pick, the flyers select….more middling talent. Let the road to the Cup continue 😂
hello it's me 2050
Location: AR
Joined: 05.14.2021

Mar 19 @ 11:52 AM ET
Jones and Briere probably over-ruled him and Torts is being petty.
- MBFlyerfan

overruled him on what?
ClaudeFather
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: west haven, CT
Joined: 08.14.2015

Mar 19 @ 11:52 AM ET
said this the other day. then if your in the playoff picture maybe you increase his workload down the stretch.

this organization deserves pure failure. What will it take to sink in? nothing and until an ownership change (99% unlikley in the near future) very little will change.

- hello it's me 2050

But the history, the broad street bullies, they need that!
Pelle31Forever
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: PA
Joined: 05.20.2014

Mar 19 @ 11:55 AM ET
Kinda wish they started out the year getting boatraced like this rather than crumble in the end. Maybe they would have approached things differently. MAYBE.
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Mar 19 @ 11:58 AM ET
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Flyers_01
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 10.03.2006

Mar 19 @ 11:58 AM ET
Kinda wish they started out the year getting boatraced like this rather than crumble in the end. Maybe they would have approached things differently. MAYBE.
- Pelle31Forever


It was always smoke and mirrors. Anyone who couldn't see that what they were doing was unsustainable was fooling themselves.

Running Coots into the ground was part of the reason for the hot start and the current collapse.
MBFlyerfan
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Be nice from now on, NJ
Joined: 03.17.2006

Mar 19 @ 11:59 AM ET
overruled him on what?
- hello it's me 2050



It was a joke. Torts didn't want there to be a captain and Briere and Jonesy said we need to have a captain.

NM
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Mar 19 @ 12:01 PM ET
It was a joke. Torts didn't want there to be a captain and Briere and Jonesy said we need to have a captain.

NM

- MBFlyerfan

got it.
Flyers_01
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 10.03.2006

Mar 19 @ 12:02 PM ET
you guys were supposed to scratch and claw to maintain 3rd place in the Metro come on
- BINGO!


The metro is freaking horrible this year. It feels like half the teams are trying to get a better draft pick. The Flyers may have a hard time playing themselves out of a playoff position.
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