Bill Meltzer: Quick Hits:

Bill Meltzer: Quick Hits:
- bmeltzer

Thanks Bill

2) Here's where things stand: The Flyers blew their many opportunities to control their own destiny -- although one could argue that the team already did just that by not taking advantages of all the mulligans they were given before finally being overtaken in the playoff standings. Every team the Flyers are now chasing for a playoff holds a game in hand and/or a tiebreaker advantage with four of five games left to play.

It was comical how all of the teams that had the opportunity to pass the Flyers kept losing as well. WAS just needed one win to pass the Flyers in points and went something like 0-5-1 to tie them in points. That allowed longshot teams like NYI and PIT to catch up to everyone.

Didn't someone say in a prior thread that the Flyers haven't beaten a team in their own division since the calendar turned to 2024?

It's just a mess.

The real summary:

The Flyers are mathematically possible right now...until a couple teams above them win 1-2 games. Even if the Flyers win the rest of their games, they are done like Diddy.

The only way now for the Flyers to screw over the fan base more...win games that no one wants them too so they get a worse draft position.

It was comical how all of the teams that had the opportunity to pass the Flyers kept losing as well. WAS just needed one win to pass the Flyers in points and went something like 0-5-1 to tie them in points. That allowed longshot teams like NYI and PIT to catch up to everyone.

Didn't someone say in a prior thread that the Flyers haven't beaten a team in their own division since the calendar turned to 2024?

It's just a mess.
- Flyers_01

I believe that is the case. Also the Flyers have lost 17 of the last 24 games. I wonder what happened to the culture change, the standard applied and the fixing of the locker room during that 24 game stretch?

When does Kolosov make his first start for the Phantoms?

if they miss the playoffs the excuses will plentiful.

- we exceeded expectations as many had us as a bottom 5 team

- we are rebuilding that's why we traded walker. we could have kept him blah blah to make a run. which will contradict what he said about Laughton.

- they will somehow sneak in the hart situation knowing full well they knew this was inevitable.

- will use the injuries 100%.

- heading on the right direction and other buzz words.

I believe that is the case. Also the Flyers have lost 17 of the last 24 games. I wonder what happened to the culture change, the standard applied and the fixing of the locker room during that 24 game stretch?
- MJL

who do you want to see the flyers hire as the next coach?

When does Kolosov make his first start for the Phantoms?
- WhiskeyMan

Couple years hopefully.

Does torts get the axe?

Does torts get the axe?
- twotoekenn

Fired, no. He may leave voluntarily to move upstairs. Which would be a frightening development for the Flyers.

Does torts get the axe?
- twotoekenn

Probably not but I would be fine with that.

who do you want to see the flyers hire as the next coach?
- hello it's me 2050

What do you want the next coach to do?

A: Win as many games as possible in the current year.
B: Develop young players for the long term.
C: Distract the fanbase with antics to keep them entertained and distracted.
D: Win the Stanley cup.

Before you can decide who you want, you have to decide what you want your coach to do. Some of the choices are mutually exclusive but some aren't and to be honest, no matter who the next coach is, the construction of the team will not allow them to win a Stanley cup.

To me Torts is a combination of A and C.

The Stanley cup is not a next year or even a next coach thing at this point.

Just my 2 cents.

Couple years hopefully.
- Glak18

He is with them now so it should be soon

Nah, he is the organizational "spiritual leader."

I believe that is the case. Also the Flyers have lost 17 of the last 24 games. I wonder what happened to the culture change, the standard applied and the fixing of the locker room during that 24 game stretch?
- MJL

We’re also 4 8 and 3 since the deadline. Speaks to the lack of depth as we couldn’t survive when we lost Walker. They don’t have any realistic shot at making the playoffs even if they win out which from their recent play would be nearly impossible.

I honestly still can’t believe they got slaughtered by a cbj team missing 10
Players and having many ahl call ups. Incredible.

What do you want the next coach to do?

A: Win as many games as possible in the current year.
B: Develop young players for the long term.
C: Distract the fanbase with antics to keep them entertained and distracted.
D: Win the Stanley cup.

Before you can decide who you want, you have to decide what you want your coach to do. Some of the choices are mutually exclusive but some aren't and to be honest, no matter who the next coach is, the construction of the team will not allow them to win a Stanley cup.

To me Torts is a combination of A and C.

The Stanley cup is not a next year or even a next coach thing at this point.

Just my 2 cents.
- Flyers_01

what I wan is for cliff to answer the question to throw out some names and why. Everyone knows he will not however.

Not hard to figure out why they are in freefall

The pp sucks
The team is worn down and likely tuning out the overbearing, childish coach
The D is woefully thin and combined with poor goaltending it’s caused the pk to be as bad as the pp has been all year
They are weak at center and TK is struggling and possibly playing hurt.

We’re also 4 8 and 3 since the deadline. Speaks to the lack of depth as we couldn’t survive when we lost Walker. They don’t have any realistic shot at making the playoffs even if they win out which from their recent play would be nearly impossible.

I honestly still can’t believe they got slaughtered by a cbj team missing 10
Players and having many ahl call ups. Incredible.
- Hextall271

Tied an NHL record with CBJ scoring 6 goals in 1 game by defensemen. Torts and the 2023/24 Flyers are in the record books.

What do you want the next coach to do?

A: Win as many games as possible in the current year.
B: Develop young players for the long term.
C: Distract the fanbase with antics to keep them entertained and distracted.
D: Win the Stanley cup.

Before you can decide who you want, you have to decide what you want your coach to do. Some of the choices are mutually exclusive but some aren't and to be honest, no matter who the next coach is, the construction of the team will not allow them to win a Stanley cup.

To me Torts is a combination of A and C.

The Stanley cup is not a next year or even a next coach thing at this point.

Just my 2 cents.
- Flyers_01

I want a combination of A and B. I want to coach to try and win as many games as they can while developing young players for the future. Not try and win and put player development aside in many instances. That will potentially lead to the potential of D.

Not hard to figure out why they are in freefall

The pp sucks
The team is worn down and likely tuning out the overbearing, childish coach
The D is woefully thin and combined with poor goaltending it’s caused the pk to be as bad as the pp has been all year
They are weak at center and TK is struggling and possibly playing hurt.
- BiggE

How is the culture though? The adherence to the standard? Is the room no longer fixed?

Not hard to figure out why they are in freefall

The pp sucks
The team is worn down and likely tuning out the overbearing, childish coach
The D is woefully thin and combined with poor goaltending it’s caused the pk to be as bad as the pp has been all year
They are weak at center and TK is struggling and possibly playing hurt.
- BiggE

you think these players would do that at this stage knowing they were in a playoff spot and controlled their own destiny.

I want a combination of A and B. I want to coach to try and win as many games as they can while developing young players for the future. Not try and win and put player development aside in many instances. That will potentially lead to the potential of D.
- MJL

how do they acquire that elite talent you speak of then if they try to win as many games as possible? Are you in favor of striping the roster down and starting fresh?

How is the culture though? The adherence to the standard? Is the room no longer fixed?
- MJL

These will all be the offseason buzzwords thrown out by management. They have built in excuses ready to use...

if they miss the playoffs the excuses will plentiful.

- we exceeded expectations as many had us as a bottom 5 team

- we are rebuilding that's why we traded walker. we could have kept him blah blah to make a run. which will contradict what he said about Laughton.

- they will somehow sneak in the hart situation knowing full well they knew this was inevitable.

- will use the injuries 100%.

- heading on the right direction and other buzz words.
- hello it's me 2050

The Buzz words will be a plentiful. But a lot of these guys that have floundered will have now been under Torts for two full years. To me DB and company know and see what we all do. They simply need better players. How they go about it is anyone’s guess, but there are holes that need to be filled….a lot of holes.