Jeremy Laura: Who will stay and who will go now? Detroit’s offseason

Wings with more wins than the Caps but the NHL has to take into account overtime so they base it on regulation losses. Kinds stinky.

Please convert to a 3 standings points/game system like the EPL. No matter what happens, no game awards more standings points than another.

Regulation win = 3 points
OT win = 2 points
OT tie = 1 point

You'll also force teams to consider whether they are going to play conservative in a tie game with 5 minutes left because they only get 1/3 the points if the lose in OT. It'd be interesting.

Wings with more wins than the Caps but the NHL has to take into account overtime so they base it on regulation losses. Kinds stinky.

Please convert to a 3 standings points/game system like the EPL. No matter what happens, no game awards more standings points than another.

Regulation win = 3 points
OT win = 2 points
OT tie = 1 point

You'll also force teams to consider whether they are going to play conservative in a tie game with 5 minutes left because they only get 1/3 the points if the lose in OT. It'd be interesting.
- coohill

I don’t think there’s a non ugly way to put this. By having the current systems, more teams can “be in the mix” longer. If a team has a shot, they sell more stuff. The numbers need to be re released, but before jersey ads 50% of HRR was on site revenue (tix/parking/concessions/retail). The number of teams in the league makes it obvious that half the league is going to miss the post season. But, you can keep it artificially close for longer with the current system. Sounds awful, just seems to be the impetus.

I'm not opposed to a 3-2-1-0 standings points system, but I do have to point out that reconfiguring 2023-24 standings to this point system would not have changed the playoff field in the East. Detroit (and Pittsburgh) are both still out, with Pittsburgh at #9 and Detroit at #10:

NYR 156
CAR 155
FLA 152
BOS 145
TOR 135
TBL 135
NYI 123
WAS 123
PIT 120
DET 118
PHI 117
BUF 117
NJD 114
OTT 103
MTL 96
CBJ 87

Nobody asked for my opinion, but if I were king of the NHL:

- All games worth 2 points (2 for win, 1 for tie)

- Overtime is 10-20 minutes (I favor 20, but at least 10) of 3-on-3 hockey. If nobody scores, tie game. No shootouts.

- Tiebreakers are (1) total wins, (2) head to head, (3) goal differential.

- No more divisional playoffs. Top 8 teams per conference qualify.

- Top seeds get to pick their opponents. If #1 seed thinks they match up better against the #6 or #7 than the #8, they can choose them instead. Then #2 gets their pick of the remaining teams, etc.

- Gold drafting. (https://hockeyviz.com/txt/gold)

You can quibble with a few details here and there but the aim of all these changes would be to not only kill the shootout and the loser point, but also greatly reduce the amount of complex, perverse incentives teams have to try to play for overtime, or game the system for a better draft pick or an easier first round opponent. Every team is incentivized to try to win every game, no matter where they are in the standings.

I feel Kane has been up front and between the lines informed us all his intention to move on...... in terms of the rest of the forward group, while unpopular to say I think Sprong should move on...enjoyed his game but he is a defensive liability and the Wings need size and grit, Fabbri can be moved as well.... Veleno at the right price I'd keep, as well as Perron... in keeping Perron, as much as I appreciate Fischer he can move on as well.. not physical enough and Wings need that..... if Copp can be dealt so be it..... as far as the D, I appreciate ghost, love his offensive ability and would love to keep him..but only on the cheap so I see him moving on, between Petry, Holl, Chiarot Stevie has to move hopefully 2 of them and honestly I'd pick Chiarot staying..... Matta I cam take staying or going... the D simply has so many flaws only compounded by subpar goaltending......hopefully Lyon comes back ready for some games and Husso is the backup, unless some other option presents itself...and I've been explicitly clear from the get go im no fan of Husso...... all of that aside, the number one priority must be sending Lalonde packing and bringing in Berube or Gallant.... checking in on Q, and though a reach I'd love to see Brindamour.....

Nobody asked for my opinion, but if I were king of the NHL:

- All games worth 2 points (2 for win, 1 for tie)

- Overtime is 10-20 minutes (I favor 20, but at least 10) of 3-on-3 hockey. If nobody scores, tie game. No shootouts.

- Tiebreakers are (1) total wins, (2) head to head, (3) goal differential.

- No more divisional playoffs. Top 8 teams per conference qualify.

- Top seeds get to pick their opponents. If #1 seed thinks they match up better against the #6 or #7 than the #8, they can choose them instead. Then #2 gets their pick of the remaining teams, etc.

- Gold drafting. (https://hockeyviz.com/txt/gold)

You can quibble with a few details here and there but the aim of all these changes would be to not only kill the shootout and the loser point, but also greatly reduce the amount of complex, perverse incentives teams have to try to play for overtime, or game the system for a better draft pick or an easier first round opponent. Every team is incentivized to try to win every game, no matter where they are in the standings.
- Sven22

I love this. And absolutely, the current system made at least 3 teams feel closer than they were in the East. I don’t know the balance of adding teams and post season interest. Is it good to have half of the fan base potentially tune out after the regular season? There is some growth for the playoffs in “big games “ (NHL peaked at around 2 million last year). I really think your system is a lot more straightforward. Well done

I feel Kane has been up front and between the lines informed us all his intention to move on...... in terms of the rest of the forward group, while unpopular to say I think Sprong should move on...enjoyed his game but he is a defensive liability and the Wings need size and grit, Fabbri can be moved as well.... Veleno at the right price I'd keep, as well as Perron... in keeping Perron, as much as I appreciate Fischer he can move on as well.. not physical enough and Wings need that..... if Copp can be dealt so be it..... as far as the D, I appreciate ghost, love his offensive ability and would love to keep him..but only on the cheap so I see him moving on, between Petry, Holl, Chiarot Stevie has to move hopefully 2 of them and honestly I'd pick Chiarot staying..... Matta I cam take staying or going... the D simply has so many flaws only compounded by subpar goaltending......hopefully Lyon comes back ready for some games and Husso is the backup, unless some other option presents itself...and I've been explicitly clear from the get go im no fan of Husso...... all of that aside, the number one priority must be sending Lalonde packing and bringing in Berube or Gallant.... checking in on Q, and though a reach I'd love to see Brindamour.....
- angryagain

I think you’re right about Kane. Man, if Brind’amour was available there should be a line nearly 30 teams deep. It cracks me up that he’ll still bench press in front of the team and last I knew could still out lift the kids. He’s intense, loves the game, sees the game, and if you’re lazy you’ll learn to love pine. I think Sprong has potential, but I don’t think you should be hit too hard. We don’t know his ask, his ceiling, and at some point is this a guy that Mazur or Kasper could replace? (Assuming Kasper will start on the wing). Veleno, I think, will be a decent value signing. He’s working his way up as a solid checking line guy and I was impressed with him in that role. Once he was up on the top line a few times, it didn’t go so hot. I think Q may be a “too toxic” thing. It’s optics. No part of me thinks he approves of what happened but if you’re complicit in burying a very very bad thing happening it’s a scarlet letter. That sucks, because he is a smart coach and a guy that seems like he could grab the room.

Listening to Kane he wants term, and probably thinks Yzerman won't give it to him. He is pushing 36.

Kane is 107 points behind Brett Hull for most points by an American player. I'm pretty sure he wants that record and it will probably take him 2 seasons to get it. I wonder if he wants that record more than another shot at a Cup. He'll either be a mercenary signing one year contracts, or sign for at least two years. He would be a good fit with Chicago IMO, but that ship has sailed, unless Hawks GM Davidson has a change of mind.

Kane is 107 points behind Brett Hull for most points by an American player. I'm pretty sure he wants that record and it will probably take him 2 seasons to get it. I wonder if he wants that record more than another shot at a Cup. He'll either be a mercenary signing one year contracts, or sign for at least two years. He would be a good fit with Chicago IMO, but that ship has sailed, unless Hawks GM Davidson has a change of mind.
- boilermaker100

I felt like that trip to Chicago really hit him hard. I think so many memories and such huge milestones and a fan base that absolutely loves him was a lot to process going back like that. Love him as a Wing, but he’s a ‘Hawk for life. Tattooed on his chest

Kane is 107 points behind Brett Hull for most points by an American player. I'm pretty sure he wants that record and it will probably take him 2 seasons to get it. I wonder if he wants that record more than another shot at a Cup. He'll either be a mercenary signing one year contracts, or sign for at least two years. He would be a good fit with Chicago IMO, but that ship has sailed, unless Hawks GM Davidson has a change of mind.
- boilermaker100

No doubt Kane wants the all time points record for an American. Who wouldn’t? But there are 2 words that make this seem to be a goal of extremely temporary glory for Kane. Auston. Matthews.

Wings with more wins than the Caps but the NHL has to take into account overtime so they base it on regulation losses. Kinds stinky.

Please convert to a 3 standings points/game system like the EPL. No matter what happens, no game awards more standings points than another.

Regulation win = 3 points
OT win = 2 points
OT tie = 1 point

You'll also force teams to consider whether they are going to play conservative in a tie game with 5 minutes left because they only get 1/3 the points if the lose in OT. It'd be interesting.
- coohill

How about no points if you lose overtime. A loss is a loss.

Nobody asked for my opinion, but if I were king of the NHL:

- All games worth 2 points (2 for win, 1 for tie)

- Overtime is 10-20 minutes (I favor 20, but at least 10) of 3-on-3 hockey. If nobody scores, tie game. No shootouts.

- Tiebreakers are (1) total wins, (2) head to head, (3) goal differential.

- No more divisional playoffs. Top 8 teams per conference qualify.

- Top seeds get to pick their opponents. If #1 seed thinks they match up better against the #6 or #7 than the #8, they can choose them instead. Then #2 gets their pick of the remaining teams, etc.

- Gold drafting. (https://hockeyviz.com/txt/gold)

You can quibble with a few details here and there but the aim of all these changes would be to not only kill the shootout and the loser point, but also greatly reduce the amount of complex, perverse incentives teams have to try to play for overtime, or game the system for a better draft pick or an easier first round opponent. Every team is incentivized to try to win every game, no matter where they are in the standings.
- Sven22

Teams would IMMEDIATELY manipulate the Gold Drafting system. LTIR and hold young players in lower levels until elimination. Then bring everything on board. It would backfire in season one. All it would do is change the order of operations for when the tanking began. The genuinely weakest organizations would perpetually get punished and remain weak for even longer periods. Diminishing some of the parity that makes the league great.

Matthews may eventually hold the points record for about American born player... however, Kane will have words for him..."0 stanley cups"....

How about no points if you lose overtime. A loss is a loss.
- LFS

A tie or a loss works for me. 2 points period.